Blockade of Fire - 6000 Damage in 1/2 of a second

WraithAzraiel · November 2014

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

The pattern is QQ l2p's refusing to apply knowledge of mechanics and demanding the game change orbiting their own preferences, as opposed to adapting to new tactics. This is why some groups makes new metas or adopt them, while others are adamant in their non-optimal play.

The problem isn't adaptation, the problem is, I firmly believe (and hope) the behavior of this particular skill was an oversight. As have been MANY OTHER THINGS within the game. So myself and a few others feel it MORE THAN necessary to bring attention to it.

My problem is that in EVERY attempt to bring attention to something that is a perceived problem by NOT just one person, is that you and your's decide it's a killzone of opportunities to insult people. I bet half of you wouldn't be nearly as brave to say half the things you do to the individual's face.

This whole idea and assumption that you and your's have of anonymity because internet gives you permission to be insulting, arrogant and generally unpleasant is what bothers me the most.

Yea I get it, it's the internet - arguing on it is like trying to nail Jell-O to a wall. But come on, when has anyone ever seen this crew be helpful or pleasant? They only care about how uberL33t their SKEELZ are and how they R0LL N00Bs.

As the pattern goes, you and your's add nothing of any amount of being constructive to any thread in which you comment.

^ My observation and opinion, not an insult, not a personal attack, hopefully not within breach of any of the forum rules. If so I will try to adjust the comment accordingly.

Sypher · November 2014

There is nothing wrong with the wall of elements. I've tested both morphs in controlled environments. Unstables explosion doesn't have an AOE cap and unlike a majority, if not all excluding "Eruption" of the ground based AOEs multiple ones can be put down (this is the main reason these groups bother using them).

As for death recaps, take them with a grain of salt because they've been known to omit and/or stack numbers/attacks.

The real question you guys need to be asking is why is this ability the only ground ability that can be stacked (excluding eruption (morph of ash cloud) which doesn't do any damage.

Erock25 · November 2014

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

As for death recaps, take them with a grain of salt because they've been known to omit and/or stack numbers/attacks.

I wish you would have taken your own advice there when you started making posts about supposed Volatile Familiar double explosions. Months later and I'm still left with a neutered version of it that does not crit or build ultimate.

Subtomik · November 2014

@wraithazrael I linked a video on how it works. Any time you want to test it contact me.

Asgari · November 2014

ontop of all these incorrect posts Id also like to ad a simple negate removes these ground based affects entirely.

Once again it's a simple case of not knowing game mechanics and insisting it needs a nerf and or it's an exploit

NM used it first as a group and now it's the talk of the town and tons of people are using it. Why can't it go back to being me being only person stacking it on breaches

Kungfu · November 2014

Subtomik wrote: »

please stop talking about super simple stuff you simply dont take the time to learn.

Do you understand now why you shouldnt argue from a point of ignorance?

Still no reason for you all to be so hateful, insulting, and passive aggressive. Even you guys raggin on the OP have to admit - there's a trend in the signatures of 90% of you that are treating this post so poorly.

Scientifically speaking, The Bull has provided the screenshot that was requested. But of course, you ignore that. But why? So many angry and passive aggressive responses from No Mercy, Alacrity, and the like here have me wondering if there must be something to this.

Now, I will admit that The Bull's post does require a third variable to be complete. The argument here is all really based on time.

SOoooo... I propose: If someone can get a video or find some other way to verify the duration during which this damage was done, it would seal the issue, would it not?

Even you all who are railing against this player know this isn't the first time this very specific complaint has been made with this ability.
So, why not get a little more scientific about it? If it IS bugged or CAN BE exploited, fixing it will actually help you guys too.

Why is it so painful for all of you to even think about testing the issue and posting some proof?

After all, not one of you has proven that this "exploit" is impossible to achieve. I submit that, until you post a video demonstrating your very best attempts at testing this specific issue, you are all either speaking out of ignorance on the subject or defending an ability / exploit / issue / bug / whatever that you are currently employing.

WraithAzraiel · November 2014

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

Wraith, you seem confused as to whether or not you are mad at the skill or mad at us. You are like a mad diarrhea, spewing mad all over the damn place.

Also, I lol'd irl at the convoluted "fite me irl" paragraph. I am just as forthright irl breh. FITE ME

I only fite when necessary. I'd likely try to get over internet beefs with booze, like any healthy adult would. I'll buy the first round if you get the 2nd, deal?

If you happen to be going to Emerald City ComicCon next year, PM me and we will make this offer happen.

Kungfu · November 2014

You have a count on how many times you've used that, aoe?

Sypher · November 2014

Erock25 wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

As for death recaps, take them with a grain of salt because they've been known to omit and/or stack numbers/attacks.

I wish you would have taken your own advice there when you started making posts about supposed Volatile Familiar double explosions. Months later and I'm still left with a neutered version of it that does not crit or build ultimate.

I admit they butchered the skill, but it did explode for x2, I based that off going 3k health to 2200 with 1 explosion 400x2.

Like I said people, Wall of Elements is the only damage based ground effect that can be stacked by 1 person. That's the only reason it's becoming a popular choice.

There's nothing fishy happening so stop accusing groups for exploit or "animation canceling" (some of you talk about animation canceling like it's some secret forbidden jutsu)

It's just the only stackable aoe in the game (excluding eruption and ultimates)

WraithAzraiel · November 2014

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

What by the Eight did you just say to me, you little mudcrab? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my legion in service to the Empire, and I’ve been involved in numerous oil farms, and I have over 300 confirmed resource solos. I am trained in impulse/batswarm and I’m the top AP farmer of the entire Daggerfall Covenant. You are nothing to me but just more AP. I will zergball you with the AoE the likes of which has never been seen before on Nirn, mark my words. You think you can get away with saying that [snip] to me over the Internet? Think again, milk drinker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across all of Tamriel and your forward camp is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, skeever. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re [snip] dead, kid. I can port anywhere, anytime, and I can farm your AP in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my destruction staff. Not only am I extensively trained in impulse spamming, but I have access to the entire zergball of the Daggerfall Covenant and I will use it to its full extent to AoE your miserable ass off the face of the Cyrodiil, you little horker. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your [snip] tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you [snip] idiot. I will [snip] burning oil all over you and you will drown in it. You’re [snip] dead, kiddo.

The only reasonable response to this.

lolololol

Tintinabula · November 2014

just like using a crate to wedge a healer into so they couldn't be targeted or take damage at Chalman Milegate? "skill"..no really...skill.

Subtomik · November 2014

Kungfu wrote: »

Subtomik wrote: »

please stop talking about super simple stuff you simply dont take the time to learn.

Do you understand now why you shouldnt argue from a point of ignorance?

Still no reason for you all to be so hateful, insulting, and passive aggressive. Even you guys raggin on the OP have to admit - there's a trend in the signatures of 90% of you that are treating this post so poorly.

Scientifically speaking, The Bull has provided the screenshot that was requested. But of course, you ignore that. But why? So many angry and passive aggressive responses from No Mercy, Alacrity, and the like here have me wondering if there must be something to this.

Now, I will admit that The Bull's post does require a third variable to be complete. The argument here is all really based on time.

SOoooo... I propose: If someone can get a video or find some other way to verify the duration during which this damage was done, it would seal the issue, would it not?

Even you all who are railing against this player know this isn't the first time this very specific complaint has been made with this ability.
So, why not get a little more scientific about it? If it IS bugged or CAN BE exploited, fixing it will actually help you guys too.

Why is it so painful for all of you to even think about testing the issue and posting some proof?

After all, not one of you has proven that this "exploit" is impossible to achieve. I submit that, until you post a video demonstrating your very best attempts at testing this specific issue, you are all either speaking out of ignorance on the subject or defending an ability / exploit / issue / bug / whatever that you are currently employing.

I dont have the best set up for it, but if anyone is willing to test I will gladly try every thing I can think of to replicate it.

The problem with one of us "submitting a video" is people will cry fowl reguardless.

sypher already said he tested it. I gladly said I will test it. Let me know when, where, etc. I will gladly allocate an hour or more of my time tonight to settle any doubts/concerns anyone may have with it.

and the reason people get annoyed/passive agressive/etc is because we spend time theory crafting, practicing, spitballing ideas back and forth, and working hard to synergize our group play as well as individual skills.then people who don even know what animation canceling is, tell us "they know for a fact" that we are somehow using this as an exploit.

it gets annoying. it gets frustrating. and as laughable as it is it gets old.

Aoe_Barbecue · November 2014

Kungfu wrote: »

You have a count on how many times you've used that, aoe?

Twice actually. I repurposed the original copy pasta

Subtomik · November 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

just like using a crate to wedge a healer into so they couldn't be targeted or take damage at Chalman Milegate? "skill"..no really...skill.

yes, no one in this game has ever healed through a wall before. is this real life?

Erock25 · November 2014

Subtomik wrote: »

it gets annoying. it gets frustrating. and as laughable as it is it gets old.

Shut the front door. Anyone who has ever been accused of exploits ever gets a kick and a half out of the fact that they aren't.

Subtomik · November 2014

Erock25 wrote: »

Subtomik wrote: »

it gets annoying. it gets frustrating. and as laughable as it is it gets old.

Shut the front door. Anyone who has ever been accused of exploits ever gets a kick and a half out of the fact that they aren't.

ok ya its hilarious and makes for some really funny zone chat/mumble lol

Ifthir_ESO · November 2014

Subtomik wrote: »

Stop confusing people who understand game mechanics and are outplaying you with actual exploits. it cheapens the term and makes you look silly.

You know firsthand I am happy to say "good kill" when you beat me without cheese.

Certain guilds/players seem to migrate to the cheese, others never touch it. I think it says a lot about who you are as a gamer and a person though to use something that seems broken to win. And I am not just talking about walls here. It's everything.

Its the "Ill do anything that isn't explicitly defined as illegal" to win attitude that has people upset. Its not normally so bad but ZoS's first MMO is proving that these balance issues are more rampant here than elsewhere. What inevitably winds up happening then is that everyone else wants to win and so every single player has to gravitate to broken isht or "lose".

Subtomik · November 2014

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Subtomik wrote: »

Stop confusing people who understand game mechanics and are outplaying you with actual exploits. it cheapens the term and makes you look silly.

You know firsthand I am happy to say "good kill" when you beat me without cheese.

Certain guilds/players seem to migrate to the cheese, others never touch it. I think it says a lot about who you are as a gamer and a person though to use something that seems broken to win. And I am not just talking about walls here. It's everything.

Its the "Ill do anything that isn't explicitly defined as illegal" to win attitude that has people upset. Its not normally so bad but ZoS's first MMO is proving that these balance issues are more rampant here than elsewhere. What inevitably winds up happening then is that everyone else wants to win and so every single player has to gravitate to broken isht or "lose".

Im fine with that. Like I said I will be the first to stand around and let anyone test anything they can think of with this "issue"

if one exists I will eat crow and you can quote me on it.

im defensive of guildmates and friends of mine only because I know for a fact they arent exploiting in any way lol.

I said it before and I will say it again, ANYONE of ANY alliance who wants a target dummy to represent NM i will gladly come help.

Erock25 · November 2014

I just don't understand how this skill is working different in PVP (stacking) than in PVE (overwriting). For that reason alone, I am sure this skill will be 'fixed' at some point. I just can't fathom how ZOS puts in a in Cyrodiil/ out of Cyrodiil identifier for any skill.

Kungfu · November 2014

@Subtomik‌
Bah.... tab shouldn't go to "Post Comment". It doesn't anywhere else in any application I use. But nooooo every [my own pre-snip] time here...

I'll be happy to test it. But I'll have to level it up and morph it hahaha
I am all veils, impulse, and speedbuffs in my bomb groups so I've never even slotted it.

If this is still an argument after this weekend, I'd be happy to test it.

But then, will I report back accurately? I won't make any promises to people here. I may just exploit the hell out of it for my own personal gain.

So...

I recommend more people test it.

heh
Preferably those who HAVE the skill lol

Darklord_Tiberius · November 2014

TheBull wrote: »

Screen shot here. I was one shot by it lastnight. I've played against the guy a long time, and I do not believe it is something he intended.

Wrecked.

eventide03b14a_ESO · November 2014

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

The pattern is QQ l2p's refusing to apply knowledge of mechanics and demanding the game change orbiting their own preferences, as opposed to adapting to new tactics. This is why some groups makes new metas or adopt them, while others are adamant in their non-optimal play.

The problem isn't adaptation, the problem is, I firmly believe (and hope) the behavior of this particular skill was an oversight. As have been MANY OTHER THINGS within the game. So myself and a few others feel it MORE THAN necessary to bring attention to it.

My problem is that in EVERY attempt to bring attention to something that is a perceived problem by NOT just one person, is that you and your's decide it's a killzone of opportunities to insult people. I bet half of you wouldn't be nearly as brave to say half the things you do to the individual's face.

This whole idea and assumption that you and your's have of anonymity because internet gives you permission to be insulting, arrogant and generally unpleasant is what bothers me the most.

Yea I get it, it's the internet - arguing on it is like trying to nail Jell-O to a wall. But come on, when has anyone ever seen this crew be helpful or pleasant? They only care about how uberL33t their SKEELZ are and how they R0LL N00Bs.

As the pattern goes, you and your's add nothing of any amount of being constructive to any thread in which you comment.

^ My observation and opinion, not an insult, not a personal attack, hopefully not within breach of any of the forum rules. If so I will try to adjust the comment accordingly.

Just ask any of my coworkers, I am unpleasant and insulting all the time. I think impulse is horrible and OP, I think Reflective Scale is horrible and OP. I think Bolt Escape is horrible and OP. What I do is adjust my tactics to combat those things. None of them are things that I use as a vampire nightblade who uses bow, restoration staff, and DW but I don't cry nerf bat either. I ask that my class get some attention and maybe some similar perks. People do come on here and QQ. That's why they nerfed the stealth speed stacking, that's why they nerfed bow damage, and why they nerfed vampires. Because people won't be happy until their toon is uber the way they play and everyone else should is just using pool noodles in combat. It's people who come on here crying about OP skills that kills the game for everyone else. Instead of asking them to nerf these things try to find a way to counter it or ask them to buff your class/playstyle in some way.

WRX · November 2014

Thebull, Im not sure what your character name is, but I can guarantee you Im not one hitting you. This isn't an exploit, and its really not even that strong of an ability. It is okay "passive" damage, helps control the ground, and gets ulti.

Its would be fairly difficult to do more than 300 single target DPS with this skill (I get quite a bit less than that unless I have things buffing it).

I would recommend people look at how DoT's appear on the damage recap.

TheBull · November 2014

WRX wrote: »

Thebull, Im not sure what your character name is, but I can guarantee you Im not one hitting you. This isn't an exploit, and its really not even that strong of an ability. It is okay "passive" damage, helps control the ground, and gets ulti.

Its would be fairly difficult to do more than 300 single target DPS with this skill (I get quite a bit less than that unless I have things buffing it).

I would recommend people look at how DoT's appear on the damage recap.

Trust me bruh I know. I tried to use the skill several times over the course of my play. It's always been lack luster. Got me killed more often than not. I'm not saying you did anything intentionally, but I saw you cast then flash, then dead. Instant. I expected to see a Flawless Dawn Breaker on the recap.It was inside Roe lastnight.

I was talking to someone else who was saying they had tried to reproduce it and couldn't. I kinda put this one into the same category of 4k swallow souls, remember those? I'm of the mindset that it was an anomaly. It never happened before, and it hasn't happened since.

Sunshine

WraithAzraiel · November 2014

Subtomik wrote: »

Kungfu wrote: »

Subtomik wrote: »

please stop talking about super simple stuff you simply dont take the time to learn.

Do you understand now why you shouldnt argue from a point of ignorance?

Still no reason for you all to be so hateful, insulting, and passive aggressive. Even you guys raggin on the OP have to admit - there's a trend in the signatures of 90% of you that are treating this post so poorly.

Scientifically speaking, The Bull has provided the screenshot that was requested. But of course, you ignore that. But why? So many angry and passive aggressive responses from No Mercy, Alacrity, and the like here have me wondering if there must be something to this.

Now, I will admit that The Bull's post does require a third variable to be complete. The argument here is all really based on time.

SOoooo... I propose: If someone can get a video or find some other way to verify the duration during which this damage was done, it would seal the issue, would it not?

Even you all who are railing against this player know this isn't the first time this very specific complaint has been made with this ability.
So, why not get a little more scientific about it? If it IS bugged or CAN BE exploited, fixing it will actually help you guys too.

Why is it so painful for all of you to even think about testing the issue and posting some proof?

After all, not one of you has proven that this "exploit" is impossible to achieve. I submit that, until you post a video demonstrating your very best attempts at testing this specific issue, you are all either speaking out of ignorance on the subject or defending an ability / exploit / issue / bug / whatever that you are currently employing.

I dont have the best set up for it, but if anyone is willing to test I will gladly try every thing I can think of to replicate it.

The problem with one of us "submitting a video" is people will cry fowl reguardless.

sypher already said he tested it. I gladly said I will test it. Let me know when, where, etc. I will gladly allocate an hour or more of my time tonight to settle any doubts/concerns anyone may have with it.

and the reason people get annoyed/passive agressive/etc is because we spend time theory crafting, practicing, spitballing ideas back and forth, and working hard to synergize our group play as well as individual skills.then people who don even know what animation canceling is, tell us "they know for a fact" that we are somehow using this as an exploit.

it gets annoying. it gets frustrating. and as laughable as it is it gets old.

I'll be your test dummy. PM me and we'll meet up somewhere on Thornblade when we can schedule it.

WraithAzraiel · November 2014

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

The pattern is QQ l2p's refusing to apply knowledge of mechanics and demanding the game change orbiting their own preferences, as opposed to adapting to new tactics. This is why some groups makes new metas or adopt them, while others are adamant in their non-optimal play.

The problem isn't adaptation, the problem is, I firmly believe (and hope) the behavior of this particular skill was an oversight. As have been MANY OTHER THINGS within the game. So myself and a few others feel it MORE THAN necessary to bring attention to it.

My problem is that in EVERY attempt to bring attention to something that is a perceived problem by NOT just one person, is that you and your's decide it's a killzone of opportunities to insult people. I bet half of you wouldn't be nearly as brave to say half the things you do to the individual's face.

This whole idea and assumption that you and your's have of anonymity because internet gives you permission to be insulting, arrogant and generally unpleasant is what bothers me the most.

Yea I get it, it's the internet - arguing on it is like trying to nail Jell-O to a wall. But come on, when has anyone ever seen this crew be helpful or pleasant? They only care about how uberL33t their SKEELZ are and how they R0LL N00Bs.

As the pattern goes, you and your's add nothing of any amount of being constructive to any thread in which you comment.

^ My observation and opinion, not an insult, not a personal attack, hopefully not within breach of any of the forum rules. If so I will try to adjust the comment accordingly.

Just ask any of my coworkers, I am unpleasant and insulting all the time. I think impulse is horrible and OP, I think Reflective Scale is horrible and OP. I think Bolt Escape is horrible and OP. What I do is adjust my tactics to combat those things. None of them are things that I use as a vampire nightblade who uses bow, restoration staff, and DW but I don't cry nerf bat either. I ask that my class get some attention and maybe some similar perks. People do come on here and QQ. That's why they nerfed the stealth speed stacking, that's why they nerfed bow damage, and why they nerfed vampires. Because people won't be happy until their toon is uber the way they play and everyone else should is just using pool noodles in combat. It's people who come on here crying about OP skills that kills the game for everyone else. Instead of asking them to nerf these things try to find a way to counter it or ask them to buff your class/playstyle in some way.

But I play the exact character you do. Vamp NB dw/bow/resto, in medium armor. I miss my Night's Silence horse speed. I haven't really noticed any difference with Vampire and I've been one on this toon since Early Access. I'm not crying for a nerf, I'm asking for it to follow the same rules as the other AOE's.

That's not a nerf, that's equality. That's balance. Unless I'm wrong, and it's not, for some strange reason I've yet to surmise.

Pixysticks · November 2014

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

lightning flood does damage at more than twice the rate as either of those 2 abilities or any placed AOE in general..

Only Veil of blades and Arrow Barrage does a similar rate.

And it is still bad because you can only have 1 of them down at a time.

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

People are so misinformed. It is as if you do not play your own game and test various abilities like those who created them.

These abilities have player caps and cast caps, unlike streak which could hit anyone in front of you.

NO ONE IS BEING ONE SHOT BY THESE!

You are standing in the ticks not realizing this because particles are failing to show on your end or your situational awareness is not highly tuned.

Unstable Wall and Elemental Blockade do have caps - when the animation is allowed to play in it's entirety. Cancel that animation and you can stack as many columns of <insert element here> as you so desire.

The skill itself does not adhere to the AOE cap of 6 people, nor does detonation of Unstable Wall.

I don't think this is any case of QQ and L2P. More a case of a certain group of individuals flocking to defend a tactic they've grown found of because it gives them an advantage that unfairly adheres to the brokenass game mechanics.

In other words, "DONT TAKE MY TOYS, THEY MAKE ME WIN!"

Moderator edit: Edited quote to match moderated content

Blockade is 100% AoE capped, Unstable Wall is AoE capped for the damage over time portion, but when the wall explodes it is uncapped. The people discussing Elemental Wall in this thread are talking about blockade, so I have no idea why people keep posting false information about some esoteric form of "animation cancelling" that these guys are using to "instantly kill everyone".

Animation cancelling DOES NOT increase the rate at which you can cast spells, and it does not have any effect on the damage blockade or unstable wall does.

I'm not defending exploiters who use a broken ability, I'm just explaining to you how game mechanics work.

I'm not publicly defending a broken skill so I can use it to kill noobs until it gets nerfed, I like impulse better than blockade so I don't even use it.

Stop asserting false information in order to justify a reason for your death, pay attention to ground effects or get a new computer.

WRX · November 2014

TheBull wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Thebull, Im not sure what your character name is, but I can guarantee you Im not one hitting you. This isn't an exploit, and its really not even that strong of an ability. It is okay "passive" damage, helps control the ground, and gets ulti.

Its would be fairly difficult to do more than 300 single target DPS with this skill (I get quite a bit less than that unless I have things buffing it).

I would recommend people look at how DoT's appear on the damage recap.

Trust me bruh I know. I tried to use the skill several times over the course of my play. It's always been lack luster. Got me killed more often than not. I'm not saying you did anything intentionally, but I saw you cast then flash, then dead. Instant. It was inside Roe lastnight.

I was talking to someone else who was saying they had tried to reproduce it and couldn't. I kinda put this one into the same category of 4k swallow souls, remember those? I'm of the mindset that it was an anomaly. It never happened before, and it hasn't happened since.

Sunshine

I will shortly be posting a picture to explain how the damage recap works, and how it is impossible to get close to one hitting with that skill.

TheBull · November 2014

WRX wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Thebull, Im not sure what your character name is, but I can guarantee you Im not one hitting you. This isn't an exploit, and its really not even that strong of an ability. It is okay "passive" damage, helps control the ground, and gets ulti.

Its would be fairly difficult to do more than 300 single target DPS with this skill (I get quite a bit less than that unless I have things buffing it).

I would recommend people look at how DoT's appear on the damage recap.

Trust me bruh I know. I tried to use the skill several times over the course of my play. It's always been lack luster. Got me killed more often than not. I'm not saying you did anything intentionally, but I saw you cast then flash, then dead. Instant. It was inside Roe lastnight.

I was talking to someone else who was saying they had tried to reproduce it and couldn't. I kinda put this one into the same category of 4k swallow souls, remember those? I'm of the mindset that it was an anomaly. It never happened before, and it hasn't happened since.

Sunshine

I will shortly be posting a picture to explain how the damage recap works, and how it is impossible to get close to one hitting with that skill.

/sigh If you must.

Insurrektion · November 2014

Davadin wrote: »

im runnin around pvp with the new nvidia stream thing... if i see sth i like, i just hit a button and it'll save the past 5 minutes.

i'll record it if i get hit with one.

what is this new nvidia thing? im thinking 780ti for myself for xmas is it software that comes with the cards when you buy them?