Keeps need to have more health on walls

Malveria · October 2014

No keep should be capable of being capped in less than the time it takes to run from the nearest possible port. If you don't have the nearest port then fine. But if you have literally the next closest port, a keep should not be claimed faster than you can run from the nearest location.

Brindle, Drakelowe and Dragonclaw cannot be saved with 20/20 siege if you're running from the closest possible port (outposts).

All keeps should be fights. And should be hard fight.

Increase wall health of keeps please.

Fillem_Fulla · October 2014

Maybe they should change it so a keep only loses transit if resources are gone and transit mages have been killed. This may mean a redesign of keeps abit. But could make for an intersting strat. Or adding a keep lord that has to be slain

Bring on pvpve

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · October 2014

How about if the transit was outside the inner and sieges had to kill the mages and their guards ^^ to capture the transit point.

FluffiestOne · October 2014

Or you could put camps in your keeps like the rest of us. Those keeps are ment to be like that, they control the flanks of the map, utilize them.

Sharee · October 2014

Alternatively, one keep wall segment should only take damage from X pieces of siege at once (effectively limiting the DPS a wall can take). This would serve the same purpose (delay keep capture) while not punishing small groups of players trying to take a keep (which simple increase of wall HP would do)

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · October 2014

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Or you could put camps in your keeps like the rest of us. Those keeps are ment to be like that, they control the flanks of the map, utilize them.

Camps in keeps is a broken mechanic imo you should only be able to res there if you die in the radius of the camp not teleport half way across the map using it. Also 1 person can place a camp and keep it up for 20 to spawn in regardless of opposition this is stupid you should be able to choke a keep of resources with a long attack with reinforcements from other keeps needing to travel there on horses.

Sanct16 · October 2014

Well placing camps doesn't help as most of the time only the keep without a camp in it gets attacked (spies?). And you can't place camps in all keeps, because of the overall limitation on how many camps a faction can have on the map.

If the attacker sieges inner and outer at the same time, it is indeed impossible to get to the keep before it gets flipped, assuming you start traveling as soon as the keep is "under attack".

c0rp · October 2014

Remove AoE caps, remove FWCs, and increase wall HP 250%. Cyrodiil fixed.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌

Morvul · October 2014

c0rp wrote: »

Remove AoE caps, remove FWCs, and increase wall HP 250%. Cyrodiil fixed.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌

pretty much agree with this 100%

Keron · October 2014

Morvul wrote: »

c0rp wrote: »

Remove AoE caps, remove FWCs, and increase wall HP 250%. Cyrodiil fixed.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌

pretty much agree with this 100%

Agreed, except: Have a visible indicator for a keep being attacked before transit/spawn is blocked.

EDIT: Also, allow attackers to respawn at farm as long as they hold all three resources (without blood-porting possible, of course). Otherwise the advantage of fighting from keep walls is too much - you get a majority of players sitting around in keeps, waiting for the almighty Dee Tick to arrive.

Azarul · October 2014

I think they need to rework the siege engines personally. Make them harder to acquire or something. I want it to be a fearsome sight when a Treb is finally put up.

Xnemesis · October 2014

Just make inner keeps doors immune until outter walls are breached

Cody · October 2014

c0rp wrote: »

Remove AoE caps, remove FWCs, and increase wall HP 250%. Cyrodiil fixed.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌

add in a fix to block and spam and I will 100% agree with this

booksmcread · October 2014

Cody wrote: »

c0rp wrote: »

Remove AoE caps, remove FWCs, and increase wall HP 250%. Cyrodiil fixed.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌

add in a fix to block and spam and I will 100% agree with this

What about a block of spam?

Subtomik · October 2014

I remember when good raid leaders that had spare people used to rotate scouts in every keep.

They wanted to win the campaign, and they did a killer job of utilizing the tools at hand.

with all the stuff on the forums crying from people willing to utilize the tools given to them it just becomes an unreadable blob of "ITTTTSSSS TOOOOOOO HARDDDDDD"

Malveria · October 2014

Subtomik wrote: »

I remember when good raid leaders that had spare people used to rotate scouts in every keep.

They wanted to win the campaign, and they did a killer job of utilizing the tools at hand.

with all the stuff on the forums crying from people willing to utilize the tools given to them it just becomes an unreadable blob of "ITTTTSSSS TOOOOOOO HARDDDDDD"

We do have rotating guards on core keeps, and people idling on them. But my comment is more in regards to the speed with which a keep can be flagged (and have port disabled), and the fact that you can't run to them in time.

It makes the whole 'blood porting' thing essential because you literally can't run to the keep in time to save it.

jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 · October 2014

Yes a good group using the right siege can capture a keep in less than 3 minutes from the time it flags doing 50/50. Something has to change for sure in terms of keep wall health and keep mechanics. But if keeps do become harder to capture then we have the issue of massive numbers of players converging on a keep that has been under siege for a while and we all know how well this game performs when we have EPIC siege warfare. I think the NPCs are about the only ones enjoying a lag free gaming experience, well that and swarms of bats who don't lag like the rest of us do. But the OP is dead on something needs to be adjusted.

FluffiestOne · October 2014

I want keep walls to be stroker so I can use my op battering ram methods.

Cody · October 2014

booksmcread wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

c0rp wrote: »

Remove AoE caps, remove FWCs, and increase wall HP 250%. Cyrodiil fixed.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌

add in a fix to block and spam and I will 100% agree with this

What about a block of spam?

never even heard of that... lol

Cody · October 2014

FluffiestOne wrote: »

I want keep walls to be stroker so I can use my op battering ram methods.

no. you want to knock keeps down with impulse

Rylana · October 2014

Subtomik wrote: »

I remember when good raid leaders that had spare people used to rotate scouts in every keep.

They wanted to win the campaign, and they did a killer job of utilizing the tools at hand.

with all the stuff on the forums crying from people willing to utilize the tools given to them it just becomes an unreadable blob of "ITTTTSSSS TOOOOOOO HARDDDDDD"

TKO still does that. I am a scout on my NB most times I play that char. Boring as hell, but if just a prep-group shows up, its a good d-tick for me.

The age of camps destroyed map strategy wholesale though, I agree.