Requiemslove wrote: »

Obscure wrote: »

A console only forum might make sense. Dunno how big the fanbase for it is, but they'll likely add those categories at some point to the forum structure.

...but...

Destiny is the most pre ordered game in history.

Console ESO will be contending with a $500 million dollar competitor that isn't just going to be kicking into high gear late Q3-Q4 with their upcoming console launch, they are going to be turning and burning into the PC market with Steam distribution. Bungie is aiming to storm the market with a truly next generation title that is every bit a large scale social massively multiplayer experience with plenty of small group and solo content as you'd expect from a MMO. They avoid the term MMO like the plague instead using terms like "Shared World Shooter", but it is no doubt a major competitor with the modern MMO market, which includes ESO.

I wouldn't expect to see ESO go to console any where near the launch window of Destiny. Activision will drown out any marketing they do, and will eat up a massive chunk of the market, dragging traditional FPS players and traditional MMO players together into a massive extremely high quality game. Destiny is the next big thing in gaming, it is the elephant in the room, and everyone working on a comparative product gunning for that market that's smart should be nervous as ***.

You sound exactly as I figure a bungie sales rep hijacking these forums to promote their title would sound. You could not be more transparent that way, does not matter that you probably am not because that is exactly how you sound.

Don't get me wrong, I am excited for that game too. Going to be going through it with my two brothers. Only I think you are wrong, because the thing bungie is doing, different as it is with that title does not really make it a actual MMO. I have played the beta. You have 4 emotes, and you cant actively use furniture, or have a in game home, or many of the stables of the modern MMO. If anything, Destiny toys at pretending to be a bit MMO alike. And certainly has very few RPG elements to speak of.

I call it like I see it. Watching the gaming market is my hobby. Possibly more so than actually gaming itself.

As for your opinion, emotes and furniture usage do not make a game any more MMO than anything else. Those are RPG elements, Role Playing elements to be more specific, not even really Game elements unless your playing the SIM's and there's actual mechanics for using furniture and emoting. The fact you can find emotes at all in Destiny indicates there are RP elements in the game, and when you find gear to equip, levels to gain, and stats to manage, you observe the RPG elements to the game. It's certainly in the weight class of massively multiplayer with large numbers of players sharing game spaces and playing together, so if you call it like you see it its an MMORPG. The twist is there's about 80% shooting a gun and rocking and rolling like a traditional shooter and 20% using "space magic" abilities. So in the end it plays more like a FPS than a RPG, but it's really more an RPG that happens to be an FPS. Take away the guns and give everyone swords and it's completely an RPG.

Destiny is frankly showing off how far outside of the genres they stand and the market has shown them an overwhelming response. It's a different animal entirely than what the market is accustomed to. The Planetside series was a fair introduction to this style of game, but SOE didn't come close to Bungies quality, game formula, or Activision backed business strategy. There's really very little in the market that comes close to resembling Destiny, and of that none of it with the production quality or budget of Destiny. It's a big risk diving $500 million dollars deep into unexplored waters, but it's the right game, for the right market, at the right time. The market has already agreed making Destiny the most preordered game in history. With COD: Ghost seeing a $1 Billion dollar sales figure on day one, Destiny is in line to break that record.

Like it or not Destiny is coming, and it'll be as much a recognizable a name as Halo, Call of Duty, or World of Warcraft. It's genuinely time for people to see what these next gen consoles can do, and Destiny is going to be the first big step into that arena. It's really an interesting time in gaming to see this type of game as well as those like Evolve, breathing new life into the FPS genre in a way RPGs have not since BioWare married them with RTS elements and FPS elements. The industry is changing rapidly and the things on the horizon are going to define the industry thereafter as an even more competitive market.