I just saw this V11 version in the guildstore for the small sum of 444.444 gold


A true Picasso, don't you think ?

Edit: i did not even know that V11 versions existed, so this must be a recent drop.

MSchroeder wrote: »

Thanks for bringing this up! We went ahead and took a look at the loot tables for the Trials' item set drops.

We can confirm that the ring is, in fact, dropping from enemies in the Mage Trial, at an (intentionally) low rate. However, note that it only drops from regular monsters, not from any of the bosses.

We're always reading the forums and taking feedback under consideration, though, so we may consider adjusting the rates in the future.

So this is a Trials only item? Or that is one of a handful of places?

BTW, you seem to be missing your "ZOS_"

MSchroeder wrote: »

Thanks for bringing this up! We went ahead and took a look at the loot tables for the Trials' item set drops.

We can confirm that the ring is, in fact, dropping from enemies in the Mage Trial, at an (intentionally) low rate. However, note that it only drops from regular monsters, not from any of the bosses.

We're always reading the forums and taking feedback under consideration, though, so we may consider adjusting the rates in the future.

@MSchroeder

The bosses should have a chance to drop the jewelry, purple quality, as long as they can drop the armor, purple quality.

Also consider having 2h, bow, and staffs count as two items in a set, and having two enchants, or a passive stat boost (similar to jewelry).

rophez_ESO wrote: »

Eh, I like this idea. They need more ultra rare items in this game. It gives you something to work for, and adds to feeling of accomplishment you have when you finally get that set of gear on your character.

Or put the ring in the coffers, bind on pickup. At least that prevents the Trialists from being the supply line of the cookie cutter pvp'r.

Stx wrote: »

rophez_ESO wrote: »

Eh, I like this idea. They need more ultra rare items in this game. It gives you something to work for, and adds to feeling of accomplishment you have when you finally get that set of gear on your character.

Yeah... thats cool. Except for the part where many players already have these ultra rare items, making it completely unfair to the rest of the players.

Its also completely unfair that trials are the only avenue to obtain these pieces. making them rare is fine... but make them available to Pvpers, grinders, etc.

If I wanted a game where the only place to get gear was from a raid, I would play something else.

Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't do trials either), but, by putting them on trash mobs, doesn't that allow for non-optimal groups to go in, kill some trash before the first boss, leave, reset, repeat? This kind of opens the item farm up for people who "don't do trials".

MSchroeder wrote: »

Thanks for bringing this up! We went ahead and took a look at the loot tables for the Trials' item set drops.

We can confirm that the ring is, in fact, dropping from enemies in the Mage Trial, at an (intentionally) low rate. However, note that it only drops from regular monsters, not from any of the bosses.

We're always reading the forums and taking feedback under consideration, though, so we may consider adjusting the rates in the future.

@MSchroeder Thank you for responding.

Could you clarify the intent of the drop rate. The drop rate could be .00001, and the ring could in fact drop, however it would be extremely improbable that it ever would drop.

With these rings listing for over 400k, if they show up for sale at all, one might infer that the intent is for them to almost never drop. Is this the intent or could there perhaps be a bug in the drop rate? This thread has been out for 13 days now with 3.7k views and not a single person has been able to confirm a v12 drop so I can't help but wonder if there is a bug here.

Also it has been reported by a poster that V13 rings existed on PTS for 1.4. Did these make it into live and if so where might one find them?

Thanks again.

So basically Z is spitting in the faces of newer/slower players who are just approaching Craglorn content and now have no real chance getting those v12 signets anymore.
Altering the loot tables so late after all the early players/fast grinder stocked up on a specific item... well, that's a real *** move.

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tengri wrote: »

So basically Z is spitting in the faces of newer/slower players who are just approaching Craglorn content and now have no real chance getting those v12 signets anymore.
Altering the loot tables so late after all the early players/fast grinder stocked up on a specific item... well, that's a real *** move.

It is idiotic. Do this with new gear, sure, but not existing levels of existing sets.

Edit: I suspect "intentional" is an after-the-fact "intentional" like their tooltip fixes.

Trema wrote: »

MSchroeder wrote: »

Thanks for bringing this up! We went ahead and took a look at the loot tables for the Trials' item set drops.

@MSchroeder

The bosses should have a chance to drop the jewelry, purple quality, as long as they can drop the armor, purple quality.

Also consider having 2h, bow, and staffs count as two items in a set, and having two enchants, or a passive stat boost (similar to jewelry).

Why do i have 4 pieces then? 3 cloth and one staff? 2h weapons like bow, staff and sword are one equiptment and count as one, it would be nice if we got the extra but we dont.

Stx wrote: »

rophez_ESO wrote: »

Eh, I like this idea. They need more ultra rare items in this game. It gives you something to work for, and adds to feeling of accomplishment you have when you finally get that set of gear on your character.

Yeah... thats cool. Except for the part where many players already have these ultra rare items, making it completely unfair to the rest of the players.

Its also completely unfair that trials are the only avenue to obtain these pieces. making them rare is fine... but make them available to Pvpers, grinders, etc.

If I wanted a game where the only place to get gear was from a raid, I would play something else.

I don't understand at all why they decided to do this, and without any information at all. Because I still use the V12 set with the V1 rings and it still very useful, indispensable to be more correct along with the Seduser set. I have not yet counted up the difference it will give with the V12 rings, but I will try sum it up later today. It does not make any sense at all.

Why should you get the VR12 versions of the warlock set rings when i still cannot buy VR14 version of the pvp rings or VR14 bags in cyrodiil.
Itemization is total crap in this game and this "ninja-nerf" of warlock ring drops is just another good example.
Just get used to it that the VR12set of warlock only consists of the focus and the armor pieces. If you want to wear it with rings then you have to use the VR1 versions.
The were a lot of nerfs and tweaks in the past where i often had the feeling that i was punished for playing at a slower rate then a minority of hardcore-gamers.

Jacques Berge wrote: »

Got mine Jack... Months ago... Mwahahahahaha. But did lend a buddy 70k so he could buy his last one. Gold useless anyway. Just grind and but if you want it so badly.

I think you don't understand: there's nothing to buy anymore. And if there is, you pay about half a million gold for them (see the example on top of the page). Grinding for THAT? No way!

MSchroeder wrote: »

Thanks for bringing this up! We went ahead and took a look at the loot tables for the Trials' item set drops.

We can confirm that the ring is, in fact, dropping from enemies in the Mage Trial, at an (intentionally) low rate. However, note that it only drops from regular monsters, not from any of the bosses.

We're always reading the forums and taking feedback under consideration, though, so we may consider adjusting the rates in the future.

This was a bad move (intentionally). In fact they should now drop in Upper Craglorn and have a chance to appear in chests up there not just AA. But even if we stuck to just AA, it shouldn't be made an intentionally low rate only dropping from monsters but not bosses.

I understand that you put out the other set pieces and probably hope for people to use them more often and mix up the set matches a bit.. I can see why you did it intentionally however that's making people play the way YOU want, not the way THEY want. Also an additional angle could be to get more trials going and hopes to get more people not neglecting the older trials, while inviting new players to grind them thus adding time invested for a ring that many of us have several of and have for quite some time. I see the overall picture, and it's not an honest move ZOS.

People like me who have several sets of the VR12 Warlock signets are just fine, however it's still a bad move to do that with one of the most popular (and common up until recently) items that players CHOOSE TO USE.

@MSchroeder Please consider adjusting this drop rate. I think it's too low, even if it is dropping from "regular" monsters in trials.

The intentional drop rate reduction has caused a headache for those of us who don't partake in dungeons. And it's incredibly unfair for folks who were not VR10+ prior to 1.4. Why are you penalizing the newer players and those who level slowly?

The folks who got a ton of these signets a few months back are now making serious cash, and I am considering bankrupting myself just to get ONE ring. Come on. Gold is easy enough to get in this game, but seriously, that's not the point. These rings are not legendary quality. It's just a good set that works well with a lot of builds. If you want to make it scarce, fine, but GIVE US OTHER DECENT OPTIONS, please. You have so few methods of obtaining decent item sets that include jewelry. Jewel crafting is not yet in the game, therefore people who don't grind trials need to depend on guild stores to obtain a lot of our sets.

But guild stores are barely selling them. Why? Because even for those who do run AA, the drop rate is pitiful. A post from Reddit claimed that 1/75 runs yielded maybe a green Warlock signet, maybe a blue.

I have a job and a life. I prefer to spend my time in Cyrodiil or doing quests with my boyfriend. Not spending eons grinding endless trials for a ring that is, quite frankly, not that amazing, and probably won't even drop.

Heresiarch wrote: »

@MSchroeder Please consider adjusting this drop rate. I think it's too low, even if it is dropping from "regular" monsters in trials.

The intentional drop rate reduction has caused a headache for those of us who don't partake in dungeons. And it's incredibly unfair for folks who were not VR10+ prior to 1.4. Why are you penalizing the newer players and those who level slowly?

The folks who got a ton of these signets a few months back are now making serious cash, and I am considering bankrupting myself just to get ONE ring. Come on. Gold is easy enough to get in this game, but seriously, that's not the point. These rings are not legendary quality. It's just a good set that works well with a lot of builds. If you want to make it scarce, fine, but GIVE US OTHER DECENT OPTIONS, please. You have so few methods of obtaining decent item sets that include jewelry. Jewel crafting is not yet in the game, therefore people who don't grind trials need to depend on guild stores to obtain a lot of our sets.

But guild stores are barely selling them. Why? Because even for those who do run AA, the drop rate is pitiful. A post from Reddit claimed that 1/75 runs yielded maybe a green Warlock signet, maybe a blue.

I have a job and a life. I prefer to spend my time in Cyrodiil or doing quests with my boyfriend. Not spending eons grinding endless trials for a ring that is, quite frankly, not that amazing, and probably won't even drop.

Agree with everything here. Even if you are one of the minority of players who run trials on a regular basis, why are they so damn rare? Why nerf the drop rate now? All that will accomplish is pissing off a lot of players.

Also, it wouldn't be as big of a deal if there were any other sets even CLOSE to the level of Warlock. Seriously, Warlock set is so far above any other jewelry set it isn't funny. Just make better sets for the jewelry slots and people will use those instead...

Get a clue ZOS. =(