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If there were no racial perks, which race would you choose for a Mage type character?

Rodario
Rodario
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If racial bonuses did not exist, or if they could be chosen as a type of "Role Perk Sets" with any race, what would be your preferred race for a Mage type character?

What does Mage mean?

Basically an archetypical Sorceror/Very squishy spell caster, but as classes and roles are separate in ESO, a role has to be described instead:

- Wears (mostly) light armor
- Uses staves
- Uses many forms of magic both to deal damage and heal allies and him/herself
- Also consider Priest type characters for this poll.

If you prefer more than one race for this role, please choose the one you like the most. If you cannot decide, choose one of them and comment on the other.

Unfortunately there are ten possible poll options and ten races, so there is no space for a squirrel option. If you just want to see the results, you will still have to vote for a race.

Also, note that for this poll it does not matter if you have access to the imperial race. If you like Imperials best, vote for them even if you can't play one.

I hope you guys enjoy this poll. I am eager to see the results.

See (hopefully) the first comment for additional information.
Edited by Rodario on October 3, 2014 3:48PM
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If there were no racial perks, which race would you choose for a Mage type character? 74 votes

Altmer
33%
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Dunmer
12%
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Bosmer
4%
gdorsettub17_ESOMaximilianNox_Aeterna 3 votes
Nord
2%
CelenaroAlnilamE 2 votes
Breton
18%
Moonshadow66KoRRoDEADsimontheriault1b16_ESOMithrondavid.haypreub18_ESOHamfastFalmarileeuxThe_SadistAoife32001MordackBBSoonerRodarioLeeric 14 votes
Redguard
2%
otis67Mykaah 2 votes
Khajiit
6%
Sweetroll-BanditHeishiLizelleBazzakrakNoisivid 5 votes
Orc
4%
StxMinscRawlu 3 votes
Argonian
8%
Brother_NumsieMalthornePseudoloPlagueMonkSoloeuseliisra 6 votes
Imperial
6%
RianaTheBosmerCathrinWoolenthreadsWeiderb2001 5 votes
  • AlexDougherty
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    Altmer
    Altmer are nearly always magic users, Bretons come a close second, but a disproportionally large section of the Mages Guild in any era has been Altmer.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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  • Rodario
    Rodario
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    Breton
    As polls cannot be edited, but of course have to be posted before they can be linked, there was no way to link to the other three polls on the subject within the poll text. Here is the complete set:

    -Holy Warrior
    -Dark Knight
    -Rogue
    -Mage
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  • AlnilamE
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    Nord
    Because Nords don't like magic.
    The Moot Councillor
  • RianaTheBosmer
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    Imperial
    I picked Imperial because they are my second favorite race and I can't make my Bosmers into mages, it just feels so wrong.
  • BBSooner
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    Breton
    Depends on the schools of magic or types of elemental magic for the races, for me at least. Overall I associate bretons with general magic, sort of bridging the schools by having both man and mer ancestors.
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Bosmer
    I would go with a bosmer char , but i can see why to most altmer will be the answer.
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    -Hanlon's razor
  • Woolenthreads
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    Imperial
    "If there were no racial perks".... I would still have at least 9 characters because I bought the Imperial Edition. I'm not even certain they wouldn't be precisely the same characters with classes I currently have....
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  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    Altmer
    the one I picked or a Breton.
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    VR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3409 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. All Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.
  • PBpsy
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    Dunmer
    Dunmer . Always Dunmber for any type of character.
    ESO forums achievements
    Proud fanboi
    Elitist jerk
    Troll
    Hater
    Fan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)
  • Hamfast
    Hamfast
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    Breton
    I want to vote "Yes"... or perhaps "No"... if there are no racial perks, it's nothing more then a popularity contest... the same poll could be "What is your favorite Race?"
    Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most...
  • Pseudolo
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    Argonian
    I'd go for an Argonian. Some kind of grumpy, scaly House MD!
  • Rodario
    Rodario
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    Breton
    Hamfast wrote: »
    I want to vote "Yes"... or perhaps "No"... if there are no racial perks, it's nothing more then a popularity contest... the same poll could be "What is your favorite Race?"

    Which is exactly what this is @Hamfast‌. Well, not exactly. I'm interested in seeing two things:
    - Which races are most associated with which role, and
    - if the racial passives were mostly chosen right, which is looking good at the moment.
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    {EU/DC}
  • Hamfast
    Hamfast
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    Breton
    Rodario wrote: »
    Hamfast wrote: »
    I want to vote "Yes"... or perhaps "No"... if there are no racial perks, it's nothing more then a popularity contest... the same poll could be "What is your favorite Race?"

    Which is exactly what this is @Hamfast‌. Well, not exactly. I'm interested in seeing two things:
    - Which races are most associated with which role, and
    - if the racial passives were mostly chosen right, which is looking good at the moment.

    We all associate races with classes due to the racial passives, even with the racial passives removed we will still associate the races because mentally we include the passives. Hence the majority will be Altmer, Breton, Dunmer and Argonian... then there are the folks that feel like they want the challenge of playing a "Weaker" race for a class will choose others (a Tarutaru Warrior or a Galka Mage in Final Fantasy).

    I figure I should ask that folks that post, if they would be so kind include reasons... in my case, I do not like Altmer - they are snooty as a race, Dunmer are worse because they are snooty and think they need slaves to get things done, Nords seem to be the "Jock" race (Stupid, Drunk, Mussel Heads). Bosmer and Khajiit are "Sneaky" (this is not a slight, it's an ability), Red Guard and Orcs are more stoic, making good fighters... that leaves Breton's and Argonians as Spell Slingers. Argonans have more of a "Hive" mentality, making them better as healers... leaving Bretons as the mages.
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  • AlexDougherty
    AlexDougherty
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    Altmer
    Hamfast wrote: »
    Rodario wrote: »
    Hamfast wrote: »
    I want to vote "Yes"... or perhaps "No"... if there are no racial perks, it's nothing more then a popularity contest... the same poll could be "What is your favorite Race?"

    Which is exactly what this is @Hamfast‌. Well, not exactly. I'm interested in seeing two things:
    - Which races are most associated with which role, and
    - if the racial passives were mostly chosen right, which is looking good at the moment.

    We all associate races with classes due to the racial passives, even with the racial passives removed we will still associate the races because mentally we include the passives. Hence the majority will be Altmer, Breton, Dunmer and Argonian... then there are the folks that feel like they want the challenge of playing a "Weaker" race for a class will choose others (a Tarutaru Warrior or a Galka Mage in Final Fantasy).

    I figure I should ask that folks that post, if they would be so kind include reasons... in my case, I do not like Altmer - they are snooty as a race, Dunmer are worse because they are snooty and think they need slaves to get things done, Nords seem to be the "Jock" race (Stupid, Drunk, Mussel Heads). Bosmer and Khajiit are "Sneaky" (this is not a slight, it's an ability), Red Guard and Orcs are more stoic, making good fighters... that leaves Breton's and Argonians as Spell Slingers. Argonans have more of a "Hive" mentality, making them better as healers... leaving Bretons as the mages.

    Um, being snooty is not a class, so ALtmer and Dunmer have not been assigned roles in that speech. Nor have Nords, who you have mistakenly identified as jocks, they are Warriors, maybe drunk but still warriors.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • Leeric
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    Breton
    Bretons are awesome.
  • Rodario
    Rodario
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    Breton
    For me, this is mostly a decision between Altmer and Breton. I don't like Altmer, so Breton it is.
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  • Zorrashi
    Zorrashi
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    Altmer
    Altmer. They value the wise more than the chivalrous brawn. For them, wise can often be measured (relatively speaking) based on their magic-related prowess and insight. Not always, but often. Intellect sort of goes hand in hand with magic.

    That is in addition to their innate qualities that let them grasp magical principles with ease.
  • Soloeus
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    Argonian
    Argonian.

    Currently, Breton.

    Within; Without.
  • Hamfast
    Hamfast
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    Breton
    Hamfast wrote: »
    Rodario wrote: »
    Hamfast wrote: »
    I want to vote "Yes"... or perhaps "No"... if there are no racial perks, it's nothing more then a popularity contest... the same poll could be "What is your favorite Race?"

    Which is exactly what this is @Hamfast‌. Well, not exactly. I'm interested in seeing two things:
    - Which races are most associated with which role, and
    - if the racial passives were mostly chosen right, which is looking good at the moment.

    We all associate races with classes due to the racial passives, even with the racial passives removed we will still associate the races because mentally we include the passives. Hence the majority will be Altmer, Breton, Dunmer and Argonian... then there are the folks that feel like they want the challenge of playing a "Weaker" race for a class will choose others (a Tarutaru Warrior or a Galka Mage in Final Fantasy).

    I figure I should ask that folks that post, if they would be so kind include reasons... in my case, I do not like Altmer - they are snooty as a race, Dunmer are worse because they are snooty and think they need slaves to get things done, Nords seem to be the "Jock" race (Stupid, Drunk, Mussel Heads). Bosmer and Khajiit are "Sneaky" (this is not a slight, it's an ability), Red Guard and Orcs are more stoic, making good fighters... that leaves Breton's and Argonians as Spell Slingers. Argonans have more of a "Hive" mentality, making them better as healers... leaving Bretons as the mages.

    Um, being snooty is not a class, so ALtmer and Dunmer have not been assigned roles in that speech. Nor have Nords, who you have mistakenly identified as jocks, they are Warriors, maybe drunk but still warriors.

    If you read both my posts you will find that I first called this no more then a popularity contest, the OP sort of agreed and listed his reasons for the poll. I responded with the first part of the second post to his reply by pointing out there is a subconscious desire to use the racial passives when we define the rolls and so on...

    At this point I responded to his information request with the added information of why and listed my views on the races, which have nothing really to do with classes in the case of Altmer, Dunmer and Nords... I just don't like them. This is not saying Altmer and Dunmer would not make good mages or Nords would not be good fighters, just that I do not like them, so in the popularity contest, they lose my vote before anything else is taken into account.

    It was only after my second post that I actually voted in the poll... as my reasoning was spelled out in the post, I chose Breton.
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  • The_Sadist
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    Breton
    Breton / Altmer have always been the magically inclined races and while I'm quite fond of the Altmer, I'd go Breton. That being said, I always wished the Breton looked more.. mer and had a richer history.

    I feel it depends on what type of mage you're going for e.g. an Argonian mage could be a druidish healer / poison user whereas Dunmer are typically linked to fire and spirits / ghosts.
    Edited by The_Sadist on October 5, 2014 6:23AM
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  • butterfly442
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    What if?

    Well we could WHAT IF for days and get nothing useful.
  • AlexDougherty
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    Altmer
    Hamfast wrote: »
    Hamfast wrote: »
    Rodario wrote: »
    Hamfast wrote: »
    I want to vote "Yes"... or perhaps "No"... if there are no racial perks, it's nothing more then a popularity contest... the same poll could be "What is your favorite Race?"

    Which is exactly what this is @Hamfast‌. Well, not exactly. I'm interested in seeing two things:
    - Which races are most associated with which role, and
    - if the racial passives were mostly chosen right, which is looking good at the moment.

    We all associate races with classes due to the racial passives, even with the racial passives removed we will still associate the races because mentally we include the passives. Hence the majority will be Altmer, Breton, Dunmer and Argonian... then there are the folks that feel like they want the challenge of playing a "Weaker" race for a class will choose others (a Tarutaru Warrior or a Galka Mage in Final Fantasy).

    I figure I should ask that folks that post, if they would be so kind include reasons... in my case, I do not like Altmer - they are snooty as a race, Dunmer are worse because they are snooty and think they need slaves to get things done, Nords seem to be the "Jock" race (Stupid, Drunk, Mussel Heads). Bosmer and Khajiit are "Sneaky" (this is not a slight, it's an ability), Red Guard and Orcs are more stoic, making good fighters... that leaves Breton's and Argonians as Spell Slingers. Argonans have more of a "Hive" mentality, making them better as healers... leaving Bretons as the mages.

    Um, being snooty is not a class, so ALtmer and Dunmer have not been assigned roles in that speech. Nor have Nords, who you have mistakenly identified as jocks, they are Warriors, maybe drunk but still warriors.

    If you read both my posts you will find that I first called this no more then a popularity contest, the OP sort of agreed and listed his reasons for the poll. I responded with the first part of the second post to his reply by pointing out there is a subconscious desire to use the racial passives when we define the rolls and so on...

    At this point I responded to his information request with the added information of why and listed my views on the races, which have nothing really to do with classes in the case of Altmer, Dunmer and Nords... I just don't like them. This is not saying Altmer and Dunmer would not make good mages or Nords would not be good fighters, just that I do not like them, so in the popularity contest, they lose my vote before anything else is taken into account.

    It was only after my second post that I actually voted in the poll... as my reasoning was spelled out in the post, I chose Breton.

    Sorry, I have been reading the thread, but not remembering what people have said.

    Again sorry.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • Hamfast
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    Breton
    Hamfast wrote: »
    Hamfast wrote: »
    Rodario wrote: »
    Hamfast wrote: »
    I want to vote "Yes"... or perhaps "No"... if there are no racial perks, it's nothing more then a popularity contest... the same poll could be "What is your favorite Race?"

    Which is exactly what this is @Hamfast‌. Well, not exactly. I'm interested in seeing two things:
    - Which races are most associated with which role, and
    - if the racial passives were mostly chosen right, which is looking good at the moment.

    We all associate races with classes due to the racial passives, even with the racial passives removed we will still associate the races because mentally we include the passives. Hence the majority will be Altmer, Breton, Dunmer and Argonian... then there are the folks that feel like they want the challenge of playing a "Weaker" race for a class will choose others (a Tarutaru Warrior or a Galka Mage in Final Fantasy).

    I figure I should ask that folks that post, if they would be so kind include reasons... in my case, I do not like Altmer - they are snooty as a race, Dunmer are worse because they are snooty and think they need slaves to get things done, Nords seem to be the "Jock" race (Stupid, Drunk, Mussel Heads). Bosmer and Khajiit are "Sneaky" (this is not a slight, it's an ability), Red Guard and Orcs are more stoic, making good fighters... that leaves Breton's and Argonians as Spell Slingers. Argonans have more of a "Hive" mentality, making them better as healers... leaving Bretons as the mages.

    Um, being snooty is not a class, so ALtmer and Dunmer have not been assigned roles in that speech. Nor have Nords, who you have mistakenly identified as jocks, they are Warriors, maybe drunk but still warriors.

    If you read both my posts you will find that I first called this no more then a popularity contest, the OP sort of agreed and listed his reasons for the poll. I responded with the first part of the second post to his reply by pointing out there is a subconscious desire to use the racial passives when we define the rolls and so on...

    At this point I responded to his information request with the added information of why and listed my views on the races, which have nothing really to do with classes in the case of Altmer, Dunmer and Nords... I just don't like them. This is not saying Altmer and Dunmer would not make good mages or Nords would not be good fighters, just that I do not like them, so in the popularity contest, they lose my vote before anything else is taken into account.

    It was only after my second post that I actually voted in the poll... as my reasoning was spelled out in the post, I chose Breton.

    Sorry, I have been reading the thread, but not remembering what people have said.

    Again sorry.

    Not a problem, as I read these forums, I find we agree on more then we disagree... even if you like Altmer.
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