Martinus72 wrote: »

Sorry but blaming SSD for stuttering is just ridiculous...

Not really.

SSD drives are faster at most types of data read/wrights. Dont have a seek time to speak of, however not all read types are faster on an SSD compared to HD. (most are -- not all)

SSD's with MLC based chips take longer to write then a typical hard drive.

I dont remember my other sources for a few specific read types being faster on a HD.

What is really happening I dont know.

It is true that windows will buffer write data in RAM. If one had an MLC based SSD and windows hits it's trigger point to write the buffer it could cause the kind of stuttering/lag I saw last night and my SSD could be part of the problem.

The other part being how much ram I have which enables windows to load up more data to write.

Who knows maybe the game engine is prone to queuing write data?


Source MLC:
http://www.geeks.com/techtips/2009/techtips-11JAN09.htm

Lancraster wrote: »

this is pretty frustrating. i have Geforce 340.52 drivers. what do you guys have? maybe a driver roll back might fix it?? but to me it really seems like some sort of latency issue because it seems to get worse when im near other players.

its still present when im not but its hardly noticeable unless im trying to perform an action when it stutters.

can we get an update from ZoS here? is it something you have found on your end too? or could it simply be something within our individual systems?

DO NOT use the windows roll-back feature with nvidia drivers.

There has been a comment in the NV Release notes about this for some time now.

Elf_Boy wrote: »

Martinus72 wrote: »

Sorry but blaming SSD for stuttering is just ridiculous...

Not really.

SSD drives are faster at most types of data read/wrights. Dont have a seek time to speak of, however not all read types are faster on an SSD compared to HD. (most are -- not all)

SSD's with MLC based chips take longer to write then a typical hard drive.

I dont remember my other sources for a few specific read types being faster on a HD.

What is really happening I dont know.

It is true that windows will buffer write data in RAM. If one had an MLC based SSD and windows hits it's trigger point to write the buffer it could cause the kind of stuttering/lag I saw last night and my SSD could be part of the problem.

The other part being how much ram I have which enables windows to load up more data to write.

Who knows maybe the game engine is prone to queuing write data?


Source MLC:
http://www.geeks.com/techtips/2009/techtips-11JAN09.htm

Uhm.
If many of us have been running SSD drives since pre-launch with no stutter....

.... and now... we... have stutter..... since the patch.... when we didn't before....

Well, I'm failing to see how my existing SSD is now responsible, when it was demonstrating no stutter all this time.....
and it's not the program that we ought to point fingers at?

Try to imagine my great confusion.

I do have an SSD, but I am running the game off my HDD as the game is just too big. I did try running it off the SSD just to test, and still get stutter either way. So I don't think it's an SSD/HDD issue.

I wasn't even in Cyrodiil for 2 minutes and I had huge lag. I wasn't even in combat.

Do we know anything new about this issue? It's getting worse

pulsarxz wrote: »

Hey ZOS! Please tell me you guys are working on this issue. The game ran perfect before update 4. This lag/hitch in the game is ridiculous! Still no update on this issue??? Not going to resub until fixed.

Are you going to hold your breath too?

Have you tried de-fragmenting your drive?

It could be the game code or more likely the interaction of the game code with specific hardware/drivers and systems. If it is effecting well under 1% or .001% of the gaming population we would likely see it here in the boards, it would be very difficult for the game builders to find and resolve.

Myself I experienced lag one night only for about 30 min. That could be a whole lot of things besides my machine and the game engine/servers like internet/isp congestion.

I's suggest going though your system with a fine toothed comb and look for any drivers that could possibly by updated even if it doesnt seem directly relevant.

I experience stuttering in trials during massive spamming phases ( aoe spamming ) and in same time my fps is above 40 . Actually stuttering happens only during spamming phases and in same time all my spells impact environment. I dropped settings to minimum and having same problem. I hope that ZOS will get this right eventually.

1.44 eu I had it bad....not tried 1.45 yet.
1.44 improved a bit generally but also got much worse occasionally...almost like it was contained in a box that builds and builds and then explodes.
Sounds weird but the best way to describe it.
Pretty much identical to the skill lag in that respect....gets progressively worse (e key dies) until bang...everything freezes except the player moving....then wiped and pretty good again for a while.

Perhaps a cache being loaded with bad data and then purged when crashed.

kitsinni wrote: »

I had the same issue. I completely reloaded the game and it seems to be better but I have not really had a chance to test it for long. Repair didn't work, changing settings didn't work, disable addons didn't work, turning off all effects didn't work, updating the graphics card driver didn't work.

I have to do the same thing after every minor update. Works like a charm, until the next update

Yeah. It's still an issue. 680 SLI with stuttering and poor frames

pulsarxz wrote: »

@Elf_Boy‌ Clearly you did not comprehend what I wrote. As I stated, the game ran smooth and perfect before update 4. Nothing on my side has changed. My system is up to date, including all drivers. I even went as far as completely wiping the entire game and reinstalling. This problem did not exist for me until update 4. Plenty of people are having this problem as well.

/Sigh

Yes of course, because I dont agree with you I must not understand.

Every day you use the computer the file system changes. Downloading and installing a patch changed the file system. Uninstalling the game and re-installing it changes the file system.

I re-iterate, have you done a de-frag? Have you checked all your drivers?

Just because you personally didnt authorize the computer to download and patch though windows update or some other means doesnt mean it didnt happen.

Just because you noticed the problem after event X doesnt mean event X caused it.

there are over 750,000 people using this game client. You could say the game formatted your hard drive you would find someone else who also had a format the same day.

To be very clear - I hope you can understand - I am not saying the stuttering/problem isnt happening. For all I know some change in the game engine is interacting with your unique system.

Until you make sure your computer is perfectly updated and maintained you are not in a position to knowledgeable blame the fault on anyone or anything else.

Once you check your drivers, Tune your file system and check everything on your system as being clean and current then you can post a system build, dx diag or equivalent and other people with the same problem can (after the same maintenance) also post. Commonalities can be found and solutions looked for and found.

Standing on a soap box and holding your breath till someone else solve the problem for you is not very effective and doesnt encourage people to want to help you.

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

I dropped back on my Nvidia Drivers to the previous ones that were released and disabled some of my addons, it seemed to fix the stuttering I was having.

I kept the new drivers but disabled ShadowPlay. That fixed it for me (GFX 670 2gig). Particle effects culling turned down to about 30%, not that it makes a difference. Everything else maxed, as before.

Elf_Boy wrote: »

Kvothe wrote: »

Came back to see if there was any news here and wow, seems like the common theme is SSD. Yes, that would include me as well. Right along with the others who have high end rigs and started having stuttering issues no matter the settings after 1.4 (NA server).

Something interesting I noticed in my ESO video settings is that the resolution box goes blank after playing. Or maybe I never noticed that before. (Example, go to video setting in game and set it to 1920x1080, play for a bit and go back to settings, resolution is blank 0.o).

I first saw that right after the first 1.4 patch.

You know, when I was fixing all my keybinds and other settings.

Yeah, after the patch my resolution box won't stay filled either. I totally blame the game. My frame rates are just worse than ever, despite having a self-built high-end rig that eats games like candy. It's part of the reason I've canceled my subscription.

Also, the graphics the game is delivering have deteriorated for me, badly, so that I have to go into the config files to override settings, and even that doesn't work very well. it really p i s s e s me off. I'm a patient guy, but these folks are being really amateurish in the way they're coding changes.

kwisatz wrote: »

Disabling hardware acceleration did nothing for me. For moments stuttering and freezes are getting worse, almost unplayable. Hoping the scheduled maintenance is going to fixe that issue.

I've always had hardware accel disabled in my browser, and I still am having the fps drop and stutter since patch. Only ESO does this to me. Note, ESO has always been less than stellar cpu-wise for my tastes, but acceptable. Just sayng i don't think they were coding it that well to begin with.