Not a fan of the vampire skills or people obsessing over their appearance. Zos should develop VSO, keep it out of ESO.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire

Vampires are not a new thing to the world of Elder Scrolls, nor are they out of place, nor are they uncommon. Please do your homework before posting stuff like this.

If anything, ESO vampires are weaker than prior incarnations.

So we can all call nerf on each other, or we can give constructive feedback on how to put non-vampires (and WWs) and all classes, on a competatively equal footing.

We'll get to the same bar either way. Would you prefer it to be one where we're all weaker, or one where we're all stronger, and still able to PvE viably?

The problem with vampires is the method of propagation; allowing players to bite other players, thus making it an exploitable trade commodity, was always going to lead to an epidemic. Too late to fix that now, so we have inexorably slid into this situation as a result.

Maybe Akatosh should inflict the cure on the whole of Tamriel.... and Lamae Bal can become a random spawn who will turn you if you satisfy certain conditions or complete a ridiculously hard quest. Being a vampire can be fun and no doubt it is a useful skill line, particularly in PvP but they do seem to outnumber non-vampires in some areas which just seems.... wrong somehow.

Actually it is onle in pvp you see many vampires. In pve the drawbacks are way too high for the rewards.

Try and take a stroll around of of the social / crafting hubs like, Shornhelm on the dc side and look at how many vamps there are now.

It is less than a third of what it used to be 4 months ago.

DagothMacellarius wrote: »

I am switching to Ps4 when game launches around one year anniversary. I was among the first vampires in early access and was worried this would become UNDERWORLD ONLINE or Vampire Scrolls Online. console has more immersion as well in dark rooms with 70 to 80 inch TV.I hope the player base will be 1/4 of PC but if it does really well then awesome as well because more money for ZoS which means better\more content. I just am\got tired of seeing 70% of players as vampires. They need bigger drawbacks implemented with the justice system or something. These are just my thoughts obviously and wonder what other peoples opinions are and if they plan on going console.

Console usually has a much younger crowd than PC´s so I would assume the Vampire population would be a lot higher there due Twilight movies.

Besides that, a Vampire in my opinion should only activate at night or in dark places, it seem illogical that vampires can roam cities at day while shopping at the market place etc.

I started an alternative character for the sole purpose of becoming a vampire with him, and decided from the beginning to do it the ‘hard way’ and be in the right place at the right time. This actually happened for me about a week ago.

I was disappointed with the ‘initiation’ quest and would have preferred a tougher one.

As for ‘biting others’, I’ve not unlocked this yet, but I have no intention of charging gold for it and would only offer ‘a bite’ to friends and fellow guild members.

Why I decided to become a Vampire? Not sure really, but ‘Bat Swarm’ is great.

I have no intention of making any of my other characters Vampires, including my main.

I do think we should not be able to bite others though.

I may do a 'Werewolf' build as well, but not sure yet.

DagothMacellarius wrote: »

Atarax wrote: »

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire

Vampires are not a new thing to the world of Elder Scrolls, nor are they out of place, nor are they uncommon. Please do your homework before posting stuff like this.

If anything, ESO vampires are weaker than prior incarnations.

So we can all call nerf on each other, or we can give constructive feedback on how to put non-vampires (and WWs) and all classes, on a competatively equal footing.

We'll get to the same bar either way. Would you prefer it to be one where we're all weaker, or one where we're all stronger, and still able to PvE viably?

Weird response I must say. I bought ESO mainly because of vampires, yet it is annoying when everyone you almost see is a vampire. The post is not about hating vampires it is about keeping ESO from turning into a Vampire mmo. I believe vampirism should of been much harder to get or turn lots of people away from it. I was the first person to be infected with vampirism in ESO along with some others in early access and a friend had the "pureblood" achievment for being first rank 10 vampire ESO.So i clearly do not dislike them. I dislike that it was fairly easy to get and should of been something really rare. In my opinion they need to implement something so less people choose vampires because everyone and there grandma wants to be one, lol. I prefer vampires be 25% weaker during the day but 10% stronger at night or something around that. Everyone becoming vampires ruined a lot of the game for me. In ES lore vampires are rare compared to mortals because it is taboo and very disliked.

Now that's just biased. Your whole freaking post was biased. First off, would you or anybody that agrees with you be saying the same thing if most of the population were fighters guild? Or any other class for that matter? Nope, most likely not. But true to form, players that can't really play, want the class that THEY ARE NOT to be nerfed.

Nobody is going around saying that this is Fighters Scroll Online or something similar to that. And typical of a biased person to think it's not enough that a vampire's weakness that causes a whopping 50% damage (at all stages), and is prominent in 90% of the game, and USED even more than just about every other spell in the game, isn't enough to consider them balanced. Or that their weakness isn't enough to be considered a suitable deterrent from becoming a creature of the night. Apparently what you need to deal with is the fact that people just like being vampires regardless of the present cons.

Secondly it's an MMO, and is meant to allow people to play as the character they've always wanted to be, and if that means that 80% of the population are role-playing as vamps.... oh well. The fact is that not everybody will play a vampire the same way, and most vampire players downright suck at being vamps anyway; so you will have your moments of success in pvp. On the other hand there may be times you come across a player that knows what they're doing and will have no fear of the fire you cast.

The point is there can be an overabundance of any class type, and it just so happens to be vampires and werewolves right now. The diehard fans of vamps will continue to play as vamps, and the rest will get tired of it because it was just a fad for them in the first place, but you and everybody else needs to stop complaining every time something different from you has an advantage that your choice class has no access to. Lets use our imagination and find a way around the dilemma. And just for the record you're forgetting your ES lore. This is early history in Tamriel when vampires and werewolves were a plenty and perhaps feeding out in the open i.e. sloppy players - until they were hunted and made an endangered species.

I think many players choosing to be vampires and then not, due to the inability to function with such a common place weakness is EXACTLY WHAT THE DEVELOPERS WANT, so we are actually seeing history unfold. Eventually vampire players will be the minority. I for one look forward to my kind dwelling in the dark to kill all you mortals in your sleep.

ghengis_dhan wrote: »

Aren't the Vampire and Werewolf skill lines mutually exclusive?

I'd like to see the Fighter's Guild skill line exclusive to non-vampires and non-werewolves. If you become a vampire or werewolf, you lose access to the Fighter's Guild skill line, and any skill points invested in that skill line are freed up. The only way to get the Fighter's Guild skill line back is to cure yourself of vampirism or lycanthropy.

When I see vampires in game, I am honestly disgusted because of what it represents. That being said, the game should be balanced whether you play as an abomination or not; I don't think vampires should be unfairly hindered just because many players like to play that way.

I agree about the Fighter's Guild though I do think vampires should have access to their own "Intimidate" and "Persuade" skills. But what I find really interesting about your post is where you say, "When I see vampires in game, I am honestly disgusted because of what it represents."
'Splainy please?

Atarax wrote: »

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire

Vampires are not a new thing to the world of Elder Scrolls, nor are they out of place, nor are they uncommon. Please do your homework before posting stuff like this.

If anything, ESO vampires are weaker than prior incarnations.

So we can all call nerf on each other, or we can give constructive feedback on how to put non-vampires (and WWs) and all classes, on a competatively equal footing.

We'll get to the same bar either way. Would you prefer it to be one where we're all weaker, or one where we're all stronger, and still able to PvE viably?

As someone who has at least played Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, and just started Arena, I can confidently state that vampires are far, FAR more uncommon in Elder Scrolls than they are in Elder Scrolls online... you can't swing a dead cat in Cyrodiil without hitting one.

Combination of Bite-for-cash and the allowed exploit of run-around-in-a-circle-like-a-*****-at-level 4 that allows you to complete the quest. If you can't survive the exit, you shouldn't get the gift. Unfortunately, there is no way to avoid the first one, unless they make it NPC available only.

People would still farm it.

I tend to think the 70% figure might be a touch high, though.

In regard to the FG thing, considering Intimidate is about the only thing I use from the line (short of the passives), I suppose I'd be okay with it.

I'd take a increased Ult/Damage against living passive - considering there are about as many of those as there are Daedra. Perhaps extra damage against Vamp hunters, or "Rapid Affliction" as a counter to Expert Hunter?

Infects you and you have less than normal time to cure as the exclusive FG that you are? Would make you put your money where your mouth is, voluntary removal from the guild if you don't get cured in time?

What say you?

Only way I can see a reduction of Vampires is have them flagged as "Kill on site" in cities when said Vampire is at stage 4 hunger.

When I mean "Kill on site" it only applies to NPC guards.

Ew PS4. PC Master Race brah