Ability malfunctions in Cyrodiil? (General Non-Functioning, Overshoot for Invasion)

tinythinker · September 2014

Since the latest update, I've noticed that some abilities don't always "go off" when I'm fighting other players in Cyrodiil.

For example, when using my DK, if I see someone in range and tap the key for Invasion, about 35% of the time this past week it hasn't activated. If it does, I then try to use Flame Lash since they are stunned and my character can get healed for the damage done on the second hit. In this case the ability (any hit at all not just second) fails about 60-75% of the time. Yet if a player moves away from me still stunned I might have a chance to hit them, but not get the second hit before the stun ends. I thought I might try to hit with Burning Embers first instead, but that also frequently doesn't activate after Invasion.

That's just one fight rotation, but it can happen for other abilities as well. Yet if I go someplace like Craglorn and fight mobs, they work fine. I am not getting signs of extreme lag (choppy graphics, delayed effects, rubberbanding, etc) when these abilities fail, so I am not sure what the issue could be. I thought maybe they were already dead but still looked alive on screen, but I know for certain that wasn't so in some cases.

Is anyone else experiencing anything remotely like this?

Rune_Relic · September 2014

No... skill lag was happening to me last night.
2nd time I been in ESO since 1.4 after giving up with the stuttering.
Just couldnt be bothered to write yet another /bug ticket.

tinythinker · September 2014

Yeah, I've had ability lag from time to time but usually in conjunction with other signs of lag. If this is ability lag, then it is a delay of up to 4-8 seconds to start activating the ability and presumably failed to do so because by that point the target was already dead. Yet I can activate a healing ability in the same scenario or swing a weapon, so I doubt it.

tinythinker · September 2014

Well, I had a clear occurrence of Invasion not working, this time the icon didn't even light up while running straight at someone. I got all the way to them and nothing (and had a full bar of stamina).

As for Invasion --> Flaming Lash, I saw evidence of something I suspected, which is that my character is being placed closer to PCs than NPCs after the ability animation ends. If I move back I am more likely to be able to use Lash or Burning Embers. When I attack an NPC un Cyrodiil, I am placed in the normal post Invasion spot and have no trouble activating other abilities.

Rune_Relic · September 2014

tinythinker wrote: »

Well, I had a clear occurrence of of Invasion not working, this time the icon didn't even light up while running straight at someone. I got all the way to them and nothing (and had a full bar of stamina).

As for Invasion --> Flaming Lash, I saw evidence of something I suspected, which is that my character is being placed closer to PCs than NPCs after the ability animation ends. If I move back I am more likely to be able to use Lash or Burning Embers. When I attack an NPC un Cyrodiil, I am placed in the normal post Invasion spot and have no trouble activating other abilities.

You mean invasion overshoots..and then you cant hit the player on the floor ?
Get that often....I have to take a step or two before new attack.
Seems to be the further away you are the greater you overshoot with invasion

tinythinker · September 2014

Rune_Relic wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Well, I had a clear occurrence of of Invasion not working, this time the icon didn't even light up while running straight at someone. I got all the way to them and nothing (and had a full bar of stamina).

As for Invasion --> Flaming Lash, I saw evidence of something I suspected, which is that my character is being placed closer to PCs than NPCs after the ability animation ends. If I move back I am more likely to be able to use Lash or Burning Embers. When I attack an NPC un Cyrodiil, I am placed in the normal post Invasion spot and have no trouble activating other abilities.

You mean invasion overshoots..and then you cant hit the player on the floor ?
Get that often....I have to take a step or two before new attack.
Seems to be the further away you are the greater you overshoot with invasion

Yup. This is in addition to some abilities who have all parameters met just not working. I thought it was all the same thing, but now I see that some post-Invasion problems are overshoot, which means if I take the time to back up I generally won't get the second life-stealing hit for Flame Lash unless my target just fails to use Break Free.

Rune_Relic · September 2014

Sometimes it feels to me like they are invulnerable while they are stunned. Which is exactly the time you should be doing max damage. So yeah....kind of pointless having the stun if you cant hit them.