Constant Crash to Desktop

Ezareth · September 2014

MormondPayne_EP wrote: »

It seems to make no difference to me if I am grouped or not. So far the record is 7 crashes in 1 hour... And then I stood around like an idiot as @ezareth_ESO‌ killed me while crashed out

I haven't been on in like 14 hours. Who are you in game?

I crashed to desktop once in my two hours in Cyrodiil last night but I still had the latency issue on and off for most of the night and I called it a night early.

The constant issues in this game have really just made it less and less enjoyable to play and I find myself doing other things instead.

Asgari · September 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

MormondPayne_EP wrote: »

It seems to make no difference to me if I am grouped or not. So far the record is 7 crashes in 1 hour... And then I stood around like an idiot as @ezareth_ESO‌ killed me while crashed out

I haven't been on in like 14 hours. Who are you in game?

I crashed to desktop once in my two hours in Cyrodiil last night but I still had the latency issue on and off for most of the night and I called it a night early.

The constant issues in this game have really just made it less and less enjoyable to play and I find myself doing other things instead.

I have to agree. Its a chore to play on my Stamina NB and on the Sorc i cant be group with anyone because one of will constantly crash and the fun ends quick.

Rylana · September 2014

Can confirm it isnt just Cyrodiil.

AV has been doing Dragonstar Arena pretty regularly this week for gear + leveling and the like, and we have multiple crashes each time (usually at least one before we even finish round 4 or 5)

Before we even get to 10, its pretty much guaranteed we will have had 3-4 crashes, 2-3 UI bugs or resets (like addons resetting settings or invisible health bars/players appearing dead, players instanced out), and 1-2 massive lagspikes that pretty much ensure a wipe.

Its pretty sad, if I am honest, I am sorta glad we took this week off of PvP for this.

Dont even want to go PvP after reading some of these threads.

Kosar · September 2014

detailing the problem to reiterate and beg for this to get solved quickly:
for me, it's only happening in cyrodiil. it does not matter in the slightest if i am grouped or not. in fact yesterday for 4 hours i did group, crashed constantly. so i stayed out of party mostly just not to annoy other people. for 4 hours i solo'd and it happened at the exact same rate of 3-5 times per hour. i would get the crash report window. it was 50/50 logging back in if the game would even let me. it gave no error code, simply said "error logging in. please try again later."

same thing tonight, 3-5 crashes per hour solo, so i grouped anyway, crashes continued. someone said in zone to readjust the 2 new particle effects meters to max instead of min in settings... that got me to only crash once or twice an hour.

my speculation...
honestly it feels exactly like the lighting and healing springs problems that caused the fps drops before...only instead of dropping fps and causing relogs, we're being booted entirely with this one. both major issues came about after very major changes to effects.

(the soap box:
i really hate saying this, but it took guild wars 2 about 6-9 months, maybe a year, to finally listen and STOP culling the hell out of everything because of the issues. for how big a bad news story for gaming that was, you'd think people wouldn't try to ADD major culling like this. maybe consoles need that, but based on zone chat alone, i think you need to trust the fact that the vast majority of serious pc pvpers know to have a rig that handles gaming correctly and not institute things that hurt everything about the system, game, and accessibility. if you are going to institute something like that it needs to be 100% optional so if it isn't working we can turn it off and keep having fun while you work on making it work. we can't keep having graphical things forced on us that causes memory leaks, crashes, etc with no way to stop them so no reason to play...no i don't pve so while this is an issue, i feel like i have no reason to play...)

atomikrej · September 2014

It was a bit amusing today. A bunch of us EP were in a battle against a group of maybe 20 DC and suddenly every single DC froze in their spot. Looks like they all crashed out. Woot free AP. Seriously though things are really bad after the patch - three times an hour. Every time I load the game up after a crash I get an infinite loading screen so I have to force quit the client and restart it then it works again until the next crash.

Mojomonkeyman · September 2014

atomikrej wrote: »

It was a bit amusing today. A bunch of us EP were in a battle against a group of maybe 20 DC and suddenly every single DC froze in their spot. Looks like they all crashed out. Woot free AP. Seriously though things are really bad after the patch - three times an hour. Every time I load the game up after a crash I get an infinite loading screen so I have to force quit the client and restart it then it works again until the next crash.

Haha, yeah man. The endless loading screen after manually quitting the game because of freeze which forces you to quit the game manually again is hilarious! I experience exactly the same.

Best part really is, when playing at prime time and every crash dooms you to wait for another 30min or so in queue then play for 10-15 min until the next crash happens and after quitting twice (1 freeze, 1 endless loading screen) to relog you have to wait again because the second manual quit forces you out of cyrodiil.

This game is so broken, I`d feel ashamed to charge money for it, in all honesty.

atomikrej · September 2014

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

atomikrej wrote: »

It was a bit amusing today. A bunch of us EP were in a battle against a group of maybe 20 DC and suddenly every single DC froze in their spot. Looks like they all crashed out. Woot free AP. Seriously though things are really bad after the patch - three times an hour. Every time I load the game up after a crash I get an infinite loading screen so I have to force quit the client and restart it then it works again until the next crash.

Haha, yeah man. The endless loading screen after manually quitting the game because of freeze which forces you to quit the game manually again is hilarious! I experience exactly the same.

Best part really is, when playing at prime time and every crash dooms you to wait for another 30min or so in queue then play for 10-15 min until the next crash happens and after quitting twice (1 freeze, 1 endless loading screen) to relog you have to wait again because the second manual quit forces you out of cyrodiil.

This game is so broken, I`d feel ashamed to charge money for it, in all honesty.

I haven't had problems getting back into cyrodil after a crash if it's pop locked. What I do is force quit the game after the restart when I get the infinite screen. On my mac it's apple command esc at the same time. It sounds like you have it worse than me. Having to wait in queue to get back into action would drive me nuts.

Lava_Croft · September 2014

effinshiddy wrote: »

maybe consoles need that, but based on zone chat alone, i think you need to trust the fact that the vast majority of serious pc pvpers know to have a rig that handles gaming correctly and not institute things that hurt everything about the system, game, and accessibility.

I don't think you understand how having low system requirements increases the potential playerbase and how increasing the system requirements will only decrease the actual playerbase. (Since I will quit if the game starts to run any worse than it already does, compared to beta/release.)

Grim13 · September 2014

This game is patently awful.

That's right, Zenimax own the patent on crap.

Arkath · September 2014

atomikrej wrote: »

It was a bit amusing today. A bunch of us EP were in a battle against a group of maybe 20 DC and suddenly every single DC froze in their spot. Looks like they all crashed out. Woot free AP. Seriously though things are really bad after the patch - three times an hour. Every time I load the game up after a crash I get an infinite loading screen so I have to force quit the client and restart it then it works again until the next crash.

Same thing happened for us a few nights ago. Don't remember where it was, defending a keep from AD. The whole lot of them (and it was a lot) all crashed at the same time. Not a single one of my group did.

Reminded me very much of this scene from BSG:

dailymotion.com/video/xzij0v_s2e9-bsg-flight-of-the-phoenix_lifestyle&start=2061

As an aside, I feel like when I crash with this new problem introduced with 1.4, it happens when I swap weapons. I can't say that it's been every time for certain, but when I've been calm enough (the crash rage is real) to pay attention to exactly what I was doing when the game locked up, it was switching weapons.

Grim13 · September 2014

Tonight, I got ganked while using a ballista... then I crashed before I could accept a rez... when I relogged, much to my surprise, my ballista was still there... so I went over to it and pressed e to use it... DIED

That's right, ladies and gents, my character's life was extinguished by attempting to use a ballista.

It was a "pve death", no recap, just use soulgem to revive here or revive at a wayshrine.

..but then I crashed again before I could select either.

Pretty solid patch all around, I'd say. Keep up the great work, Zeni... I breathlessly await your Road Ahead.

Evergnar · September 2014

NA Thorn
Yep. Just had about 20 DC freeze right in front of us.
As already mentioned I hope Zos really takes a hard look after this at how they do their updates and QC. Hours or days is understandable to fix unexpected game breaking bugs but weeks on end just isn't gong to cut it.

Grim13 · September 2014

Evergnar wrote: »

NA Thorn
Yep. Just had about 20 DC freeze right in front of us.
As already mentioned I hope Zos really takes a hard look after this at how they do their updates and QC. Hours or days is understandable to fix unexpected game breaking bugs but weeks on end just isn't gong to cut it.

yep.

it'll be a week, at least, before this is fixed.

add in the 1.5+ weeks it took them to rectify the fps nightmare

..the 2+ weeks to resolve the bugged mercenary spam

..the 4+ weeks to fix the caltrops mayhem

...

really, when it comes right down to it, how much quality time have we genuinely got out of pvp!?

a lot less than we've paid for... that's for sure.

thomaswinkworthb16_ESO · September 2014

I just literally had the best crash clip, where like 15+ EP players crashed and I just killed them all I was about to hit record on shadowplay and then I crashed

Monsoon · September 2014

Glad to see (sort of) that it is not just the Mac Client...13 crashes this evening. Lost siege, lost AP, lost mail (never rewarded because hey I has crashed), lost gold...great. My rewards: Having to log back, force crash the client because of spinning wheel of death and try to relog to find out that I was dead or ported back to starting zone.

I understand now why Blizz never ever releases code that has the potential to frustrate customers and why testing is very important. I guess there isn t much internal testing here or maybe a single machine?

Monsoon · September 2014

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Would not surprise me if the crashing is group orientated after they were "Fixing" group issues. Having @ZOS workers responding to other threads and not this on is very disheartening.

I am also convinced that the PvP server are in fact all on the same server and not individual ones which would explain a lot of the other lag related issues on some servers and not the others.

13 crashes in Cyrodill tonight for me. I never ever group. It is not group related.

Lava_Croft · September 2014

Tweet @TESOnline each time your game crashes.

Rune_Relic · September 2014

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

This game is so broken, I`d feel ashamed to charge money for it, in all honesty.

QFT

ThyIronFist · September 2014

zenimax fix your *** game

Maulkin · September 2014

Yep, I'm crashing every 5-10 minutes even solo now. Well played ZOS, well played

Akgurd · September 2014

We don't need broken update every month.
What we need is stable PvP that lasts 3month.

Pchela · September 2014

Fix this. 4 times in 3 minutes now. I want a response on what you're doing to fix this.

Asgari · September 2014

Well it seems to be getting exponentially worse as the time passes. What once was only during grouping is now all the time no matter if your grouped or not. The best is crashing then logging in to crash again.

Tintinabula · September 2014

Why are the crashes placing me at main gate? I'm defending arrius ,not main gate. I log back in soon enough and I'm taken out of the fight and plopped so far from the fight with arrius not taken yet that I might as well go eat..or read MSN.

Kosar · September 2014

Lava_Croft wrote: »

I don't think you understand how having low system requirements increases the potential playerbase and how increasing the system requirements will only decrease the actual playerbase. (Since I will quit if the game starts to run any worse than it already does, compared to beta/release.)

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BEFORE this last patch, everything was fine (in regards to not a metric ton of constant crashes).
they LOWERED the requirements by limiting the particle effects.
NOW the vast majority crashes constantly while in cyrodiil.
at very least we need on/off switches to play with, no forced or limited culling. (the day gw2 removed all culling, the game was playable for the first time in its fist year. this game is moving opposite of what anet took far too long to comes to term with.)

i'm not asking anyone to up the requirements, i'm asking them to be reinstated to whatever values worked before the patch because obviously the vast majority of us were fine. by placing this restriction on effects in the game, as we've seen before and again now, it causes massive amounts of shockwaves through pvp. they've DECREASED the playerbase by trying to make it more accessible, which they absolutely did not need to do. (all mmo's are developed for 3-7 years before their release. the platform them start on is thus 3-7 years old. the vast majority of pc's will fall in this range of years, so why dial them back now? at launch, sure, but instating this stuff now? hello, broken cyrodiil...)

also pvp was already a broken issue after the 1st 90 days. i saw entire guilds leave after that. so we get a smaller number of instances and what happens? 1 is locked around the clock while 4 sit mostly empty. now we can't even pop lock 1 around the clock because it's impossible to play yet craglorn goes farmed 24/7. if craglorn was dc'ing people around clock we would have seen a fix by friday at the latest.....inherently unfair, but looking at populations, we seem to be the smallest fraction (die hard pvp'ers, that is).

Lava_Croft · September 2014

ESO's system requirements have only increased since release and the system requirements sure as hell have not decreased because of the new particle FX stuff. I know this for a fact because I run a low-spec machine and ESO's performance has only decreased since release and it has not gotten any better at all with the latest patch. Not to mention that ZOS has stated in interviews that their goal is to have ESO run well on systems up to five years old. Something that was indeed the case during the betas and at release, but isn't the case since the introduction of the game-breaking patch that introduced the fancy new lighting.

Culling is a very common and more than preferred way to deal with performance and all ZOS has to do is what ZOS has to do with just about everything in this game and that is fix the *** bugs.

Show me where ZOS has stated that the system requirements are lower now that there's the new particle FX stuff.

bitaken · September 2014

Three crashes in 5 minutes. You must be kidding me.

This is beyond the point of ridiculous. We may be at Plaid Speed crash test dummy.

Asgari · September 2014

bitaken wrote: »

Three crashes in 5 minutes. You must be kidding me.

This is beyond the point of ridiculous. We may be at Plaid Speed crash test dummy.

This was how it was last night. Spent 30min trying to play and then gave up.

bitaken · September 2014

Yup 4th crash in 40 minutes of play. Done for the night - College football game is calling.

Saet · September 2014

I crashed about 6 times in an hour today. Before this patch crashes were rare for me. My FPS has gone down a lot again too. Even if I turn all the effects down to 0. Which I definitely should not have to do. When this game came out I was able to maintain 40fps or so in cyrodiil in a large siege.