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Will Spell Crafting in update 1.5.0 fix allot of the balancing issues?

  • timidobserver
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    No
    Yes and No.

    It will address the balance issues between classes. I imagine that everyone will now have access to a healing ultimate, which will allow them to heal on par with a Templar. I imagine that everyone will have access to spells that make their stealth more effective, which will make them closer to NBs in regard to stealth. I imagine that there will be tanky spells to bring people closer to DKs and teleport/escape spells to bring people closer to Sorcs and Nbs in regard to escape.

    It will solve the class balance issue as much as it can be solved, but it will still leave stamina needing some work.
    Edited by timidobserver on September 9, 2014 4:31AM
    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • phaneub17_ESO
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    No
    Spellcrafting will bring people finding the best DPS combinations and everyone who isn't using that combo will be kicked out of Trials. It's your next Stick and Skirt trend.
  • Draxuul
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    No
    There is no way that offering people more possibilities can bring more balance into the game.

    In fact it`s quite the opposite. You`re giving player the chance to figure out new ways to become gods and some people will find those OP builds i can assure you of that .

    There are just so many different combinations out there that the Devs did not think of with the game as is and soon they`re going to add more .

    They can try and figure out as many different combinations as they can either with just the new spells or just the abilities in the game or trying combinations between both the new spells and the current abilities , they most likely will forget a few .

    Plus ability combos are not the only things to consider. Gear set bonuses can affect those builds , then gear and jewelry enchantments can affect them even further.

    Plus some people don`t even use complete sets of gear , they rather use bonuses from only using 2 peices of multiple sets and i`m sure there are ways to exploit that no matter how much you think that using a full set is better.

    The fact that some people are able to think outside the box and some can`t , there will always be imbalance in this game . Always. There is no cure for imbalance at this point.

    The devs will keep trying to adjust as the time goes but this game becoming completly and perfectly balanced is not possible .

    Draxuul
    Be who you want to be , do what you want to do, play the way you want to play.

    The Prophet once said :``There is no perfect choice , there are only other choices. ``

    Same goes for your build. There is no perfect build, there are only other builds.

    My name is Draxuul and i approve this message .

  • timidobserver
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    No
    Spellcrafting will bring people finding the best DPS combinations and everyone who isn't using that combo will be kicked out of Trials. It's your next Stick and Skirt trend.

    This might happen if you are in one of the few high-end trials guilds that are trying to get 7 and 8 minutes times.

    However, if you are in an average trials guild that just wants to finish it with a reasonable performance, this won't be the case. If you can put out 800-900 dps, nobody will say anything to you. 800-900 is easily possible for most classes already, so spellcrafting will only give you more ways to go about doing it.

    So, in reality it is the opposite of what you are saying. Spellcrafting can only give you more options.
    Edited by timidobserver on September 9, 2014 4:39AM
    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • Draxuul
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    No
    Armitas wrote: »
    Stamina builds are already questionable. Unless I'm missing some key part of spell crafting it would seem to make a magicka build a necessity even more. It would perhaps "fix" the balance by removing any remaining doubt that one should have a magicka build.

    I want spell crafting, but honestly stamina needs development first. Being able to mix weapon skills with "other" magicka skills while tying them to stamina could be a panacea for the stamina build.

    You know?? the more i think about that stamina build issue that people seem to be having and the more i`m starting to think that the devs never thouht that people would actually go for a pure stam build considering that there is just so much more to each characters then just stamina.

    Why limit yourself to being a regular joe when you can be so much more .

    It`s like someone is asking you to choose between 100 millions $ or a house, a car and a pool.

    Now most people go for the 100 millions because they know that they can have everything from the second option AND more and some of them invest that money and make it grow into an even bigger amount of cash.

    But then there are those who go for the house, car and pool because it represents everything they ever wanted from life and then when they look at what the others are doing with their millions , they complain that they want that too.

    the point i`m trying to make here is why the hell would you limit yourself to using stamina only if you`re gonna turn around and complain that there are people more powerful than you.

    Yes they are more powerful than you, of course they are because they didn`t limit themselves and they`re taking advantage of everything that has been offered to them rather than just one thing.

    Draxuul
    Be who you want to be , do what you want to do, play the way you want to play.

    The Prophet once said :``There is no perfect choice , there are only other choices. ``

    Same goes for your build. There is no perfect build, there are only other builds.

    My name is Draxuul and i approve this message .

  • DuelWieldingCheesyPoofs
    Yes
    You know you can use the alteration to decide if a spell uses magika or stam? So your duel wield could cost magika, why dnt you wait and instead of getting your skirt in a twist about nothing you know about, yet!
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    oren74 wrote: »
    yes, but, it's just going to make every class be exactly the same with the same abilities. Classes will just be irrelevant.

    I really hope so. Class has always been a starting point in the ES series. What you start out as leads into what you can become, which is usually a demigod. I'm fine with everyone having access to more or less all the same abilities, its what we choose to use that makes us unique, and the more powers we have access to, the more unique we can be. Not convinced? Check out the way TSW skills work.
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
    <And plenty more>
  • Ragefist
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    inspiral1 wrote: »
    You know you can use the alteration to decide if a spell uses magika or stam? So your duel wield could cost magika, why dnt you wait and instead of getting your skirt in a twist about nothing you know about, yet!

    No you cannot. Spells cost magicka only, period. ZOS said they got plans how to further develop weapon skills, but they are not ready to share them, means its very early in development
  • TehMagnus
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    No
    Hope it's same crafting as Oblivion, I'll just make a Single Target /touch Fire spell that consummates all my magicka with One Shot power 8).
  • Ragefist
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    magnusnet wrote: »
    Hope it's same crafting as Oblivion, I'll just make a Single Target /touch Fire spell that consummates all my magicka with One Shot power 8).

    No you won't, watch the quakecon presentation
  • mousekime111rwb17_ESO
    No
    they're widening the gap between magicka and stamina - the only thing of benefit is they're giving stamina an equivalent of dark exchange
  • guybrushtb16_ESO
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    No
    they're widening the gap between magicka and stamina - the only thing of benefit is they're giving stamina an equivalent of dark exchange

    While it's true that magicka will get more options for spells, that doesn't mean it will neccessarily stronger. If the dark exhange equivalent proves to be really potent, it could push stamina dps a long way.

    In any case, while it won't actually solve any balancing issues, I personally am quite sure that spellcrafting might mix up the playing field quite a bit, depending on what's actually possible to do with it.
  • david.haypreub18_ESO
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    No
    I assume spellcrafting will make it worse.

    Maybe if you added weaponcrafting, it might help.
    Templars are 'just slower... by design'
    Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
    VR 16 Templar (retired until Templars get fixed)
    VR 16 Sorcerer
    38 Nightblade
    24 DK
  • Csub
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    I think that the earliest for SC is December this year but I would much more likely put my money first 4 months of 2015.
    Edited by Csub on September 9, 2014 5:14PM
    "The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn
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