Will Spell Crafting in update 1.5.0 fix allot of the balancing issues?

Ryzium · September 2014

When spell crafting comes out there will be a massive amount of customization, this means that you can give yourself a heal if you don't have one or a good ranged ability if you need one of those too, there will definitely need to be good balancing but when it is all set do you all think the classes will be more balanced?

Kuratla · September 2014

How do you know Spellcrafting is coming in patch 1.5?

Rosveen · September 2014

As a certified pessimist, I believe it will create new problems. But it will be fun anyway, so bring it on!

Ryzium · September 2014

Yes

Kuratla wrote: »

How do you know Spellcrafting is coming in patch 1.5?

They never confirmed 1.5 they have just said that it will be coming out after upper craglorn and champion system. Since upper craglorn and champion system were both supposed to come out in 1.4 and they are pushing champion back I assume that 1.5 will have either champion system and spell crafting or in 1.6 there will be spell crafting.

GaldorP · September 2014

Yes

Oh yes, there's nothing like making predictions about content that hasn't even been announced with any details yet

I vote yes. I'm feeling optimistic today

Anvos · September 2014

No

Went with know since you forgot a we don't have enough information option.

Also its quite possible adding a slew of new abilities will just add different balance problems even if they help solve current ones.

istateres · September 2014

No

10000g says it's not in 1.5!

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · September 2014

No

I believe it will will create even more imbalance.

Samadhi · September 2014

“Expect to see soon”: new facial animation system, improved grouping, fixes to player separation issues

“Expect to see in a while”: Imperial City, Champion System

“Expect to see later”: Justice System, Spellcrafting

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2014/08/20/the-road-ahead----august-20

I'm feeling like it may be closer to 1.7/1.8.

I'm still excited for the system though.

I'm not certain about balance impacts, aside from perceiving potential benefit that will come from having a Magicka-based Stamina heal skill helping Stamina builds manage the main resource pool a bit better.

Resueht · September 2014

How is this poll a thing? We have next to zero details on what will be in spellcrafting.

ExiledKhallisi · September 2014

No

I believe people put to much faith in what Spellcrafting will actually be.

-I bet a large sum of gold, spell crafting will take consumables.
-If there isnt stamina skills as well as magicka skills to create it will ruin the game no one will play anything but magicka builds.
-you wont get to make whatever you want. It will be a small combination of spell attributes you can combine. Because of this min/axes will discover the best spells to create within the first day. And everyone will use the same things.

wookiefriseur · September 2014

No

Chose No, because it most probably won't be 1.5.

And aside from that I expect some more imbalances when spellcrafting is first introduced to the game. Players are very creative and I'm pretty sure that the system will be changed quite a few times before it's somehow balanced.

Ryzium · September 2014

Yes

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

I believe people put to much faith in what Spellcrafting will actually be.

-I bet a large sum of gold, spell crafting will take consumables.
-If there isnt stamina skills as well as magicka skills to create it will ruin the game no one will play anything but magicka builds.
-you wont get to make whatever you want. It will be a small combination of spell attributes you can combine. Because of this min/axes will discover the best spells to create within the first day. And everyone will use the same things.

There isn't stamina costing abilities they already said this. There will be a similar system with weapon abilities

Aeratus · September 2014

No

This is what happens when spellcrafting becomes imbalanced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGFJPThhDPM

(Video link edited for correction)

Dagoth_Rac · September 2014

Yes

It will just lead to overpowered flavor-of-the-month builds. Except now everyone will have access to the fotm instead of only one class. To be honest, if it does *not* lead to overpowered fotm builds at first, that would be bad. It would likely point to the system being too rigid to be of much use.

BBSooner · September 2014

As much as I want spell crafting to be awesome, for some reason I'm imagining a clunky system reliant on spell scrolls tied to the already clunky quick action wheel. I really hope I'm wrong though.

Ryzium · September 2014

Yes

BBSooner wrote: »

As much as I want spell crafting to be awesome, for some reason I'm imagining a clunky system reliant on spell scrolls tied to the already clunky quick action wheel. I really hope I'm wrong though.

Spell crafting doesn't use consumables, you use skill points to unlock the abilities you learn from reading the tablets you craft.

reften · September 2014

Yes

yes, but, it's just going to make every class be exactly the same with the same abilities. Classes will just be irrelevant.

reften · September 2014

Yes

BBSooner wrote: »

As much as I want spell crafting to be awesome, for some reason I'm imagining a clunky system reliant on spell scrolls tied to the already clunky quick action wheel. I really hope I'm wrong though.

heh, never thought of this. You're probably right. Kinda like how alchemy works now.

BBSooner · September 2014

Ryzium wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

As much as I want spell crafting to be awesome, for some reason I'm imagining a clunky system reliant on spell scrolls tied to the already clunky quick action wheel. I really hope I'm wrong though.

Spell crafting doesn't use consumables, you use skill points to unlock the abilities you learn from reading the tablets you craft.

Ahh so it's been confirmed that spell crafting ' spells ' will take up one of the 1-5 action bar slots? That's good news indeed.

s7732425ub17_ESO · September 2014

BBSooner wrote: »

Ryzium wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

As much as I want spell crafting to be awesome, for some reason I'm imagining a clunky system reliant on spell scrolls tied to the already clunky quick action wheel. I really hope I'm wrong though.

Spell crafting doesn't use consumables, you use skill points to unlock the abilities you learn from reading the tablets you craft.

Ahh so it's been confirmed that spell crafting ' spells ' will take up one of the 1-5 action bar slots? That's good news indeed.

Here is how it works as of the information that has been released. You create a spell. You "consume" it- this adds the spell to your spell library. You open your skill list, go to the spell library, and drag the spell from your library onto your action bar. Once it's on your action bar, you use it an unlimited number of times just like any other skill.

Armitas · September 2014

No

Stamina builds are already questionable. Unless I'm missing some key part of spell crafting it would seem to make a magicka build a necessity even more. It would perhaps "fix" the balance by removing any remaining doubt that one should have a magicka build.

I want spell crafting, but honestly think stamina needs development first. Being able to mix weapon skills with "other" magicka skills while tying them to stamina could be a panacea for the stamina build.

WraithAzraiel · September 2014

Yes

We're likely not going to see Spellcrafting before Christmas season at the earliest.

GnatB · September 2014

No

I don't see how it's even possible that additional magica based options (and I'd assume SPELL crafting will be magica based) will do anything to address the apparent imbalance between stamina and magica builds. If anything it's likely to make matters even worse.

That said, I just really really really hope that between now and spellcrafting, they'll add the option to swap skill bars w/o actually having to have a second set of weapons.

Talrenos · September 2014

No

Ryzium wrote: »

When spell crafting comes out there will be a massive amount of customization, this means that you can give yourself a heal if you don't have one or a good ranged ability if you need one of those too, there will definitely need to be good balancing but when it is all set do you all think the classes will be more balanced?

Spell crafting will not fix anything. It will introduce a lot of new bugs in a system that is untested, it will prolly break a few existing systems, and I'm quite sure some people will figure out a way to either become UBER with it or cause a lot of grief to others.

Then it will be nerfed, reverse nerfed, raised up, then nerfed again.

Tapio75 · September 2014

I never see this.. Imbalance you speak of I do see however, many players who need to learn to play better and especially get over themselves and start playing in teams.

Ragefist · September 2014

Ryzium wrote: »

They never confirmed 1.5 they have just said that it will be coming out after upper craglorn and champion system. Since upper craglorn and champion system were both supposed to come out in 1.4 and they are pushing champion back I assume that 1.5 will have either champion system and spell crafting or in 1.6 there will be spell crafting.

Much later actually, you can see Matts statement here:

“Expect to see soon”: new facial animation system, improved grouping, fixes to player separation issues

“Expect to see in a while”: Imperial City, Champion System

“Expect to see later”: Justice System, Spellcrafting

Now we know Champion system is coming in 4 stages, and 2nd stage (exp instea of VR points) didnt make it to 1.4
We also know that facial animation was supposed to take months, which is soon for ZOS

1.5 would probably go ahead only with veteran City of Ash dungeon, Champion system and Imperial city 1.6 at best (2-3 months) and the stuff everyone crave most, Spellcrafting (or classic ES spells to be more accurate) and DB/Thives 4-5 months if we are lucky

Please note Im not judging ZOS schedule, I prefer they take their time and give us good content rather than rush to satisfy hungry players, Im just trying to be more realistic with my estimates (and they are only my estimates, we never know if the devs get delayed here and there)

Stx · September 2014

No

Hopefully the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild skill lines provide mostly stamina based skills with beneficial passives for stamina users. This would help balance out the magicka focused Spell crafting system(even if a few created spells may end up being used in stamina builds).

kieso · September 2014

No

voted no because there was no roflno option.

Elsonso · September 2014

No

Balance between Stamina and Magicka? If anything, spell crafting will make it less likely for people to do Stamina builds.

Everyone will be able to make the same spells; DK, NB, Templar, and Sorcerer. The only difference between the classes will be the class skills and they could end up being largely ignored. Spell crafting should be able to replace the bulk of the class skills and magicka based weapon skills.

Paske · September 2014

No

This will not bring balance to the Force.
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