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Chillrend crash and rollback not a coincidence - Beyond time to do something, Zeni
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jaebdub✭✭✭Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Please, somebody from DC back up this statement. I would love to hear what you think. Was AD inside the keep, north and southwest wall breached? Or did you have 100% on all of the walls and started pushing us out to mine?
I must know because I obviously am losing my mind.
Hova, Aoe BBQ, Mrs. Jones? Any No Mercy want to back up this statement? If this is true I will nip it in the bud right now.
It was so laggy in Ash with 3 locked bars of population there so in honesty it was a bit difficult to even know what was going on. NM was up and fighting the entire time until the crash though. I wasn't in inner so I don't know if the crash was intentional or not. If it was or wasn't it definitely helped though lol. I understand the frustration of having an objective wrested away by a rollback though ... I'd be frustrated about it too tbh.
AD and EP were in the keep last I remember before the crash. It was a giant fustercluck tbh.
Thank you for your say. I know you were in there. I just find it difficult to stomach this Xallus' claim that they pushed us out when Venatus and my guild were in the courtyard during it.Jagermeister - v14 NB
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jaebdub✭✭✭Tell me you're talking about Ash tonight? Every swinging .... sword... was in Ash before the roll. I know you guys had Warden too, are you talking about that?
Yes, I am talking about Ash. Server crashed while AD was in ASH.
EP was not in Ash at that point.
But they were in Ash a hour earlier.
Wondering now if we crashed after and that's how cleanup seemed suddenly easy.
Hmmm, imagine that? Funny how we still owned all 3 resources after the roll backEdited by jaebdub on September 7, 2014 9:04AMJagermeister - v14 NB
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Xallus✭✭✭WraithAzraiel wrote: »I like how everyone bailed to Chillrend after AD returned from a severe disadvantage to take the lead and win the campaign in Thornblade.
Is this going to be a habit? Are we going to bail and hit up each consecutive campaign after the end of the last?
Most DC (hard American base) went to chill because there was a somewhat strong EP Aussie TZ, something we thought would make a good TZ buffer, half of them left in the first 4 days to go back to thorn. Its funny because we don't want a full painted map because theres noone there, but moving to a place that was virtually 24/7 poplocked is now dwindling in opposition.
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Aoe_Barbecue✭✭✭✭✭Thank you for your say. I know you were in there. I just find it difficult to stomach this Xallus' claim that they pushed us out when Venatus and my guild were in the courtyard during it.
We probably would have lost Ash and emperorship if not for that crash or some other form of divine intervention to be fair. It would have likely been an AD cap too from what I remember. Red was in there but was not in control of the courtyard.0 -
Comet201✭✭Malveria, DC didn't crash the server... alliance orange crashed the server by crowding excessive number of players to attempt to dethrone our emperor @ Ash, why can't you just go play nicely in drakelowe or something?
Which is why the server crashed over an hour after that fight was over?I need to start using twitch, perhaps you're confusing when YOU crash and when the server crashes... because the walls were healed before rollback.
I was standing inside Ash when the server crashed, on the wall, watching my group siege inner. Next.
yep I was there too, killing you all, server was already laggy due to the massive number of players all trying to fight @ Ash @ once, not DC intentionally trying to crash the server tin foil for brainsCharacter: Aeries, v14 DK DC
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Xallus✭✭✭DC US TZ makes tri-locked difficult and competition in Oceanic seems to offend EP Oceanics.0
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jaebdub✭✭✭Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Thank you for your say. I know you were in there. I just find it difficult to stomach this Xallus' claim that they pushed us out when Venatus and my guild were in the courtyard during it.
We probably would have lost Ash and emperorship if not for that crash or some other form of divine intervention to be fair. It would have likely been an AD cap too from what I remember. Red was in there but was not in control of the courtyard.
Venatus and Alacrity weren't grouped up the entire night until 5 minutes before the crash. We took LM and Farm, then knocked down the northern wall with no countersiege and no lag. At this point I was thinking we were golden. The other large AD zerg had finally made its way through the western wall. Then BOOM. Tremendous lag and insta crash.Jagermeister - v14 NB
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✭so AD bugged the altadoon scroll on purpose! zenimax, it's past time you do something! lol1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Please, somebody from DC back up this statement. I would love to hear what you think. Was AD inside the keep, north and southwest wall breached? Or did you have 100% on all of the walls and started pushing us out to mine?
I must know because I obviously am losing my mind.
Hova, Aoe BBQ, Mrs. Jones? Any No Mercy want to back up this statement? If this is true I will nip it in the bud right now.
It was so laggy in Ash with 3 locked bars of population there so in honesty it was a bit difficult to even know what was going on. NM was up and fighting the entire time until the crash though. I wasn't in inner so I don't know if the crash was intentional or not. If it was or wasn't it definitely helped though lol. I understand the frustration of having an objective wrested away by a rollback though ... I'd be frustrated about it too tbh.
AD and EP were in the keep last I remember before the crash. It was a giant fustercluck tbh.
EDIT: I do think AD was in the better position in the courtyard though. There were definitely reds in the mix though.
Yeah the people that are talking about the walls being healed and the rezzing at the keep are talking about the previous failed siege during the triple scroll run.
The one we are talking about was about 45 minutes later.
When I crashed I was literally standing on the porch of the keep surrounded by dead keep guards watching about 30 DC coming in from the opposite postern from the breach along the courtyard (obviously just rezzed at a camp after we defeated the breach siege line and wall support siege)
AD had almost full wall and courtyard control except for that corner, but we hadnt started inner yet.
Then boom, everyone gets logged out to char select and we all end up at eastern elswyrEdited by Rylana on September 7, 2014 9:35AM@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
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jaebdub✭✭✭Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Please, somebody from DC back up this statement. I would love to hear what you think. Was AD inside the keep, north and southwest wall breached? Or did you have 100% on all of the walls and started pushing us out to mine?
I must know because I obviously am losing my mind.
Hova, Aoe BBQ, Mrs. Jones? Any No Mercy want to back up this statement? If this is true I will nip it in the bud right now.
It was so laggy in Ash with 3 locked bars of population there so in honesty it was a bit difficult to even know what was going on. NM was up and fighting the entire time until the crash though. I wasn't in inner so I don't know if the crash was intentional or not. If it was or wasn't it definitely helped though lol. I understand the frustration of having an objective wrested away by a rollback though ... I'd be frustrated about it too tbh.
AD and EP were in the keep last I remember before the crash. It was a giant fustercluck tbh.
EDIT: I do think AD was in the better position in the courtyard though. There were definitely reds in the mix though.
Yeah the people that are talking about the walls being healed and the rezzing at the keep are talking about the previous failed siege during the triple scroll run.
The one we are talking about was about 45 minutes later.
When I crashed I was literally standing on the porch of the keep surrounded by dead keep guards watching about 30 DC coming in from the opposite postern from the breach along the courtyard (obviously just rezzed at a camp)
AD had almost full wall and courtyard control except for that corner, but we hadnt started inner yet.
Then boom, everyone gets logged out to char select and we all end up at eastern elswyr
^this. An exact account of what happened. Did we swap stories before or something?Jagermeister - v14 NB
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✭✭✭✭✭Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Please, somebody from DC back up this statement. I would love to hear what you think. Was AD inside the keep, north and southwest wall breached? Or did you have 100% on all of the walls and started pushing us out to mine?
I must know because I obviously am losing my mind.
Hova, Aoe BBQ, Mrs. Jones? Any No Mercy want to back up this statement? If this is true I will nip it in the bud right now.
It was so laggy in Ash with 3 locked bars of population there so in honesty it was a bit difficult to even know what was going on. NM was up and fighting the entire time until the crash though. I wasn't in inner so I don't know if the crash was intentional or not. If it was or wasn't it definitely helped though lol. I understand the frustration of having an objective wrested away by a rollback though ... I'd be frustrated about it too tbh.
AD and EP were in the keep last I remember before the crash. It was a giant fustercluck tbh.
EDIT: I do think AD was in the better position in the courtyard though. There were definitely reds in the mix though.
Yeah the people that are talking about the walls being healed and the rezzing at the keep are talking about the previous failed siege during the triple scroll run.
The one we are talking about was about 45 minutes later.
When I crashed I was literally standing on the porch of the keep surrounded by dead keep guards watching about 30 DC coming in from the opposite postern from the breach along the courtyard (obviously just rezzed at a camp)
AD had almost full wall and courtyard control except for that corner, but we hadnt started inner yet.
Then boom, everyone gets logged out to char select and we all end up at eastern elswyr
^this. An exact account of what happened. Did we swap stories before or something?
No, but if the server hadnt kicked me to charselect at the exact moment it did I was probably going to die, blue respawn was about to run the porch over and I was right in the middle of it popping shields and heals.
Silver lining, really wanted to depose though.@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
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✭✭✭✭✭We can argue back and forth all week long. We can try to dismiss concerns if it makes you feel better or just flat out lie (because let's face it - if you are willing to cheat, you'll lie about it afterward), but all I'm saying is ZoS should keep an eye on the problem. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Find the fire and put it out, don't take our word for it, get off your bootays and follow the smoke.-- @xaraan --
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✭I seen the same thing on Thornblade when a scroll was at Alessia, after a couple of failed attemps to take the scroll, I seen large groups of players standing around the out side of the keep spamming healing springs, I wondered what they were doing then boom server crash, and when I logged back enemy got a free scroll back, nothing surpises me these days, but it does seem odd.1 -
Glantris✭✭✭i bet it's that damn undaunted guild crashing the server. they're the ones putting up the bad camps, too. they should all be banned. from real life.Glantris | VR14 AD Templar | Main Group Heals/Support
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Braidas✭✭✭✭✭Let's think about it this way...has a server ever crashed that EG was not on? To my knowledge, no. Chillrend, specifically, has not crashed since its creation about a month ago, but within a few days of EG's arrival, it does. Even if it is ZOS's *** servers at the root of the problem, unless all of you EG are complete and total ***, you would change up your 'tactics' for the betterment of the game. Everyone is past believing it's a coincidence.2
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IKilled007✭✭✭✭All of you are missing the real issue here. The problem is not that players intentionally crash the servers. The problem is that players can intentionally crash the servers. It should be impossible for players to crash the servers. What is wrong with this game's hardware/software that this is even possible.
It reminds me of those idiotic calls to "take the money out of politics". Money in politics is not the problem. The problem is all the power and influence that politicians have to sell in the first place. If you took away all that power and influence, there'd be nothing to sell. Point being, let's go after the root causes. The cause of the crash is either terrible hardware or terrible coding or both. Let's have Zenimax address that. Ultimately, crashes aren't good for anyone. Sure, you might get a scroll back or keep/lose emp, but scrolls and emps are gonna change hands regardless in the ebb and flow of campaigns. Who wants to sit out of the game trying to connect for 10 minutes instead of playing?The only substitute for victory is overkill.2 -
Nala_✭✭✭✭IKilled007 wrote: »All of you are missing the real issue here. The problem is not that players intentionally crash the servers. The problem is that players can intentionally crash the servers. It should be impossible for players to crash the servers. What is wrong with this game's hardware/software that this is even possible.
It reminds me of those idiotic calls to "take the money out of politics". Money in politics is not the problem. The problem is all the power and influence that politicians have to sell in the first place. If you took away all that power and influence, there'd be nothing to sell. Point being, let's go after the root causes. The cause of the crash is either terrible hardware or terrible coding or both. Let's have Zenimax address that. Ultimately, crashes aren't good for anyone. Sure, you might get a scroll back or keep/lose emp, but scrolls and emps are gonna change hands regardless in the ebb and flow of campaigns. Who wants to sit out of the game trying to connect for 10 minutes instead of playing?
that would be 100% true if a server crash has happened in the past month that was not EGL's fault, can anyone name one where it wasnt them?1 -
Braidas✭✭✭✭✭Kind of surprised this thread hasn't been take down for naming and shaming yet, much as EG deserve to be both named, and shamed.
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Pixysticks✭✭✭✭✭Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »We probably would have lost Ash and emperorship if not for that crash or some other form of divine intervention to be fair. It would have likely been an AD cap too from what I remember. Red was in there but was not in control of the courtyard.
Alacrity
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ferzalrwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Silly people. LOL to this thread.
Some people need a nice warm glass of milk and a bit of a lie down.1
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