Malveria wrote: »

Zerg lag is irrelevant. We're saying there were no zergs fighting one another at the time of the crash. Moreover, when there WAS a three way zerg fight, there was no server wide lag.

A single group of 26, each spamming healing springs, is not sufficient to lag the server. It is a large, coordinated group doing it. A bunch of healing springs on a breach won't do it. Healing springs in a three way fight won't do it. It's a coordinated, consolidated act.

The server was crashed deliberately.

I hate to burst your bubble, but as another mentioned, you weren't close to doing anything, we were able to res at the keep shortly before the crash. While we were simultaneously wiping the floor with AD at mine and EP on the East side people repaired the keep to full. I died at mine and the last order I heard was to smoke-check farm and then the server crashed.

It is good you're asking ZOS to look at it, because it's a ZOS problem. When a game is advertised as primarily large scale pvp, and if you unify as a single front it crashes the server... its a problem. The server has never been intentionally crashed by DC, we're just more cohesive than any of the other factions. Tell me a time another faction can manage to get 100+ people (most of which not in guild) to follow 1 person's instructions exactly. Drop the tin-foil hat, blame ZOS and work on smashing your leaders' egos so they'll work as one.

ZOS needs to bolster the servers, or change the way ultimates are charged. Tinfoilers are getting old, it almost seems (from someone that knows its never been intentional) that you want ZOS to rather than fix the servers or change ultimate gains... you want people to be barred from joining together and forming one massive cohesive group because you can't do the same and the ability for your enemy to do so occasionally crashes the server.

Reminds me a lot of EvE Online, they had these problems for years, especially when GoonSwarm came around, try 600 people jumping into your home system and instantly engaging you. Only difference is the players in EvE had the critical thinking skills to realize those people, while frustrating, were just playing the game and didn't intend entire cluster crashes, and both sides of the line pushed CCP to fix their server abilities.

Probably wasting my breath, I wouldn't doubt if we posted the last week of 24/7 TS chat and in game chat of every player, if it were possible... you'd still refuse to believe it. Like the flat earth society believing pictures from space showing the earth is round are photo-shopped.

Altadoon cant be picked up right now from the shrine...AGAIN... man, heaven forbid that was Alma Ruma ....

Rylana wrote: »

Almost every guild on this campaign stacks and casts so I figured that was implied.

I was running with a four man vice team, but the stacks were out in force, it was two of the biggest zergs ive ever seen collide, and AD was the one in the middle, EP toward the farm, DC toward the wall/front door field area. it was disgusting lag, 10 second ability delays and the like.

but the server never crashed

Ahh.. Gotcha, so you were getting the lag it just didn't crash.

You need a fairly large zerg to do it... and EG is the only guild i've seen that can get those numbers stacked which is why you generally see them crash the server.

Malveria, DC didn't crash the server... alliance orange crashed the server by crowding excessive number of players to attempt to dethrone our emperor @ Ash, why can't you just go play nicely in drakelowe or something?

Xallus wrote: »

Malveria wrote: »

Zerg lag is irrelevant. We're saying there were no zergs fighting one another at the time of the crash. Moreover, when there WAS a three way zerg fight, there was no server wide lag.

A single group of 26, each spamming healing springs, is not sufficient to lag the server. It is a large, coordinated group doing it. A bunch of healing springs on a breach won't do it. Healing springs in a three way fight won't do it. It's a coordinated, consolidated act.

The server was crashed deliberately.

I hate to burst your bubble, but as another mentioned, you weren't close to doing anything, we were able to res at the keep shortly before the crash. While we were simultaneously wiping the floor with AD at mine and EP on the East side people repaired the keep to full. I died at mine and the last order I heard was to smoke-check farm and then the server crashed.

It is good you're asking ZOS to look at it, because it's a ZOS problem. When a game is advertised as primarily large scale pvp, and if you unify as a single front it crashes the server... its a problem. The server has never been intentionally crashed by DC, we're just more cohesive than any of the other factions. Tell me a time another faction can manage to get 100+ people (most of which not in guild) to follow 1 person's instructions exactly. Drop the tin-foil hat, blame ZOS and work on smashing your leaders' egos so they'll work as one.

ZOS needs to bolster the servers, or change the way ultimates are charged. Tinfoilers are getting old, it almost seems (from someone that knows its never been intentional) that you want ZOS to rather than fix the servers or change ultimate gains... you want people to be barred from joining together and forming one massive cohesive group because you can't do the same and the ability for your enemy to do so occasionally crashes the server.

Reminds me a lot of EvE Online, they had these problems for years, especially when GoonSwarm came around, try 600 people jumping into your home system and instantly engaging you. Only difference is the players in EvE had the critical thinking skills to realize those people, while frustrating, were just playing the game and didn't intend entire cluster crashes, and both sides of the line pushed CCP to fix their server abilities.

Probably wasting my breath, I wouldn't doubt if we posted the last week of 24/7 TS chat and in game chat of every player, if it were possible... you'd still refuse to believe it. Like the flat earth society believing pictures from space showing the earth is round are photo-shopped.

Altadoon cant be picked up right now from the shrine...AGAIN... man, heaven forbid that was Alma Ruma ....

Funny how this crash happened after the three way faction battle, and only when AD was inside after we capped the two scrolls. How did you get that mixed up. There were no EP around at that time.

Oh and did you also forget the fact 2 walls were breached when it crashed? We owned all 3 resources? You were taking a break when it crashed? LMFAO

In fact we spent more time after the crash pushing EP out than AD

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Xallus wrote: »

Naivety, EP was hitting the east wall, and was even inside at one point. And like I said, we were ressing at the keep when the crash happened.

You were ressing inside the keep? Meaning it wasn't under siege?

Columba wrote: »

jaebdub wrote: »

Xallus wrote: »

Malveria wrote: »

Zerg lag is irrelevant. We're saying there were no zergs fighting one another at the time of the crash. Moreover, when there WAS a three way zerg fight, there was no server wide lag.

A single group of 26, each spamming healing springs, is not sufficient to lag the server. It is a large, coordinated group doing it. A bunch of healing springs on a breach won't do it. Healing springs in a three way fight won't do it. It's a coordinated, consolidated act.

The server was crashed deliberately.

I hate to burst your bubble, but as another mentioned, you weren't close to doing anything, we were able to res at the keep shortly before the crash. While we were simultaneously wiping the floor with AD at mine and EP on the East side people repaired the keep to full. I died at mine and the last order I heard was to smoke-check farm and then the server crashed.

It is good you're asking ZOS to look at it, because it's a ZOS problem. When a game is advertised as primarily large scale pvp, and if you unify as a single front it crashes the server... its a problem. The server has never been intentionally crashed by DC, we're just more cohesive than any of the other factions. Tell me a time another faction can manage to get 100+ people (most of which not in guild) to follow 1 person's instructions exactly. Drop the tin-foil hat, blame ZOS and work on smashing your leaders' egos so they'll work as one.

ZOS needs to bolster the servers, or change the way ultimates are charged. Tinfoilers are getting old, it almost seems (from someone that knows its never been intentional) that you want ZOS to rather than fix the servers or change ultimate gains... you want people to be barred from joining together and forming one massive cohesive group because you can't do the same and the ability for your enemy to do so occasionally crashes the server.

Reminds me a lot of EvE Online, they had these problems for years, especially when GoonSwarm came around, try 600 people jumping into your home system and instantly engaging you. Only difference is the players in EvE had the critical thinking skills to realize those people, while frustrating, were just playing the game and didn't intend entire cluster crashes, and both sides of the line pushed CCP to fix their server abilities.

Probably wasting my breath, I wouldn't doubt if we posted the last week of 24/7 TS chat and in game chat of every player, if it were possible... you'd still refuse to believe it. Like the flat earth society believing pictures from space showing the earth is round are photo-shopped.

Altadoon cant be picked up right now from the shrine...AGAIN... man, heaven forbid that was Alma Ruma ....

Funny how this crash happened after the three way faction battle, and only when AD was inside after we capped the two scrolls. How did you get that mixed up. There were no EP around at that time.

Oh and did you also forget the fact 2 walls were breached when it crashed? We owned all 3 resources? You were taking a break when it crashed? LMFAO

lol tinfoil hat time! hahahaha.

Feel good about yourself, kid.

jaebdub wrote: »

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Xallus wrote: »

Naivety, EP was hitting the east wall, and was even inside at one point. And like I said, we were ressing at the keep when the crash happened.

You were ressing inside the keep? Meaning it wasn't under siege?

Correct, keep was at 100% all walls, ressing AT the keep. As our camp was down and i cheered in TS that you can res at the keep, about 30 seconds later after my res before getting outside the walls to head and clean up farm... crash.

Xallus wrote: »

jaebdub wrote: »

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Xallus wrote: »

Naivety, EP was hitting the east wall, and was even inside at one point. And like I said, we were ressing at the keep when the crash happened.

You were ressing inside the keep? Meaning it wasn't under siege?

Correct, keep was at 100% all walls, ressing AT the keep. As our camp was down and i cheered in TS that you can res at the keep, about 30 seconds later after my res before getting outside the walls to head and clean up farm... crash.

Anybody that was at the keep knows you are full of ***. We literally just breached the 2nd wall and were fighting in YOUR courtyard and CRASH. Come up with another story.

jaebdub wrote: »

Xallus wrote: »

jaebdub wrote: »

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Xallus wrote: »

Naivety, EP was hitting the east wall, and was even inside at one point. And like I said, we were ressing at the keep when the crash happened.

You were ressing inside the keep? Meaning it wasn't under siege?

Correct, keep was at 100% all walls, ressing AT the keep. As our camp was down and i cheered in TS that you can res at the keep, about 30 seconds later after my res before getting outside the walls to head and clean up farm... crash.

Anybody that was at the keep knows you are full of ***. We literally just breached the 2nd wall and were fighting in YOUR courtyard and CRASH. Come up with another story.

I need to start using twitch, perhaps you're confusing when YOU crash and when the server crashes... because the walls were healed before rollback.

Regardless, perhaps not in your honorable guild, we find spies regularly in EG TS... every day, or at the minimum find we're being spied on by being impossibly found in stealth. If there was ever an intentional crash, someone would have something, and they don't because it's never happened. The accusation this thread is about.

That aside, your account does not affect mine. You must remember right before the crash getting your teeth kicked in at the mine? I ressurected at the keep after that and crashed, logged back in and it was rolled back. <-that's a period

Comet201 wrote: »

Malveria, DC didn't crash the server... alliance orange crashed the server by crowding excessive number of players to attempt to dethrone our emperor @ Ash, why can't you just go play nicely in drakelowe or something?

Which is why the server crashed over an hour after that fight was over?

Xallus wrote: »

I need to start using twitch, perhaps you're confusing when YOU crash and when the server crashes... because the walls were healed before rollback.

I was standing inside Ash when the server crashed, on the wall, watching my group siege inner. Next.

Tell me you're talking about Ash tonight? Every swinging .... sword... was in Ash before the roll. I know you guys had Warden too, are you talking about that?

I like how everyone bailed to Chillrend after AD returned from a severe disadvantage to take the lead and win the campaign in Thornblade.

Is this going to be a habit? Are we going to bail and hit up each consecutive campaign after the end of the last?

Xallus wrote: »

Tell me you're talking about Ash tonight? Every swinging .... sword... was in Ash before the roll. I know you guys had Warden too, are you talking about that?

Yes, I am talking about Ash. Server crashed while AD was in ASH.

EP was not in Ash at that point.

But they were in Ash a hour earlier.

As perhaps factions crash mostly together and not the server