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Do you like the current trade system in ESO?
SFBryan18
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Do you like the current trade system in ESO? 94 votes
Yes.
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58 votes
No.
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SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭I do not like being forced to join a guild just to sell stuff. I am not saying there should be one place to sell everything, but I think individual players should gain the same abilities to post things for sale like the 50+ member guilds can. I have made one suggestion for what could be done in this thread:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/127759/hirelings-and-kiosks-an-idea-for-the-smaller-merchants
Whatever could be done, I believe would be better than allowing guilds to control trading. This is just my opinion and I wanted to see what others would say if given this very simple unbiased question.Edited by SFBryan18 on September 1, 2014 7:17AM4 -
ItsGlaive✭✭✭✭✭
✭What an original poll, seriously I've never seen one of these on the forums before and they definitely won't appear if you search for them before spamming a new one.
/sarcasm
Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.Edited by ItsGlaive on September 1, 2014 7:17AMAllow cross-platform transfers and merges3 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.Edited by SFBryan18 on September 1, 2014 8:05AM2 -
ers101284b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I like my sells to actually be worth something. If a global AH gets put in its gonna drive prices way down. Remember at launch when people where selling vampire bites for 10k? What happened? More and more
People got the bite so more people could sell the bite but fewer needed it now you can barely even give them away. Considering anyone can collect any material and make any item on their character there are not many rare items. What's rare right now? Recipes and high end motifs. And when people see that they will farm the crap out of theme what happens when supply goes up but demand doesn't? Prices drop. You can argue about the trade guilds all you want but that's exactly what's going to happen. You'll put rare items on the AH but the other 10,000
People with rare items will also have them so you'll have to lower your price to sell but when you do that they will lower their price to compete so you'll have to undercut to sell but they will just undercut to be competitive. NO AH!4 -
ItsGlaive✭✭✭✭✭
✭Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.
No, it's just brought on by the fact that we have a handful of players starting these polls on a weekly basis.
Whatever the results, it's unlikely to change the system, they've built the game around this system, it's the way ESO is. It isn't for some, but then there are many other mmos out there with global AH if it's that much of a deal breaker
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SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.
No, it's just brought on by the fact that we have a handful of players starting these polls on a weekly basis.
Whatever the results, it's unlikely to change the system, they've built the game around this system, it's the way ESO is. It isn't for some, but then there are many other mmos out there with global AH if it's that much of a deal breaker
I specifically said this thread is not about a global auction house. It is about if people like the current system. There are many more possibilities for improvement than just A or B. It does not matter what these threads change in the game, this is a forum for discussion and if you don't like the threads, don't read them. So far, your comments have been more about posting habits on the forum than on the actual topic. Please stay on topic.Edited by SFBryan18 on September 1, 2014 8:27AM2 -
spoqster✭✭✭✭✭Thanks @SFBryan18 for creating this poll. But maybe the question is still a bit too harsh. I am thinking the use of a Likert scale might help provide a better overiew.0 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thanks @SFBryan18 for creating this poll. But maybe the question is still a bit too harsh. I am thinking the use of a Likert scale might help provide a better overiew.
My intent was to be as straight forward as possible. Either people want something better, or they don't. If the poll ends up saying the majority like the system, I'll just forget about what I would like and I will probably join the current system, but I feel it could be much better. Hopefully we get a bigger sample of votes over then next few days.Edited by SFBryan18 on September 1, 2014 11:22AM1 -
AshySamurai✭✭✭✭✭
✭I do not want to offend anyone, but this is a silly poll. This poll is about nothing and does not imply the constructive discussions.
How to Make a Developer Listen to You. - very usefull topic.Make sweetrolls, not nerfs!0 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭AshySamurai wrote: »I do not want to offend anyone, but this is a silly poll. This poll is about nothing and does not imply the constructive discussions.
How to Make a Developer Listen to You. - very usefull topic.
Recognize the difference between fact and opinion.1 -
spoqster✭✭✭✭✭It might also be an idea to have a vote between the current system and a new proposal. I started a discussion where everyone interested can chip in towards developing an alternative model that is not a global AH but better than what we have now.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/129928/improving-eso-s-trading-system0 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭AshySamurai wrote: »
Fixed. Your off topic opinion is not very important in this thread, and it is borderline trolling. So far, you are the second person to try to moderate this thread with off topic opinions which do not contribute to the discussion. Please stay on topic. The discussion is about the trading system in ESO, not about what you think the value is of this thread.Edited by SFBryan18 on September 1, 2014 12:41PM2 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
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That option is to not vote. Why are you even responding if you don't care?EinionYrth wrote: »Could have done with a "really couldn't care less" option.
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mutharex✭✭✭✭✭Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.
No, it's just an attempt at putting finally this horse to rest. The system isn't like others you experienced but it works, even better than the one you envision, ie. against inflation and gold sellers. Also almost all the polls end up with people preferring the actual system so maybe this pet crusade of yours should just be put to rest? Does it punish lazy people? So?3 -
Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I've expressed my opinion and the reasons for that opinion too many times already. My foot is sore and the horse is bloated. But one reason I like the current system that I haven't mentioned yet is this:
It's unique.
In a world dominated by countless MMOs all competing with each other over small variations of the same structure, ESO's trading system is truly unique. I find it refreshing.4 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.
No, it's just an attempt at putting finally this horse to rest. The system isn't like others you experienced but it works, even better than the one you envision, ie. against inflation and gold sellers. Also almost all the polls end up with people preferring the actual system so maybe this pet crusade of yours should just be put to rest? Does it punish lazy people? So?
How about you stop trying to silence others freedom to make a poll? Why are there so many people who try to play amateur moderators and tell others what they should be posting? If you think the post violates forum rules, then report it, but take your fascist advise back to where ever you got it.3 -
mutharex✭✭✭✭✭Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.
No, it's just an attempt at putting finally this horse to rest. The system isn't like others you experienced but it works, even better than the one you envision, ie. against inflation and gold sellers. Also almost all the polls end up with people preferring the actual system so maybe this pet crusade of yours should just be put to rest? Does it punish lazy people? So?
How about you stop trying to silence others freedom to make a poll? Why are there so many people who try to play amateur moderators and tell others what they should be posting? If you think the post violates forum rules, then report it, but take your fascist advise back to where ever you got it.
Because 30 polls on the same subject is borderline OBSESSION.
Use one if you really feel that you have to, but stop campaigning for something no one wants.
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Moonglum83✭✭✭Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.
No, it's just an attempt at putting finally this horse to rest. The system isn't like others you experienced but it works, even better than the one you envision, ie. against inflation and gold sellers. Also almost all the polls end up with people preferring the actual system so maybe this pet crusade of yours should just be put to rest? Does it punish lazy people? So?
How about you stop trying to silence others freedom to make a poll? Why are there so many people who try to play amateur moderators and tell others what they should be posting? If you think the post violates forum rules, then report it, but take your fascist advise back to where ever you got it.
I believe you just went off topic....
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SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.
No, it's just an attempt at putting finally this horse to rest. The system isn't like others you experienced but it works, even better than the one you envision, ie. against inflation and gold sellers. Also almost all the polls end up with people preferring the actual system so maybe this pet crusade of yours should just be put to rest? Does it punish lazy people? So?
How about you stop trying to silence others freedom to make a poll? Why are there so many people who try to play amateur moderators and tell others what they should be posting? If you think the post violates forum rules, then report it, but take your fascist advise back to where ever you got it.
Because 30 polls on the same subject is borderline OBSESSION.
Use one if you really feel that you have to, but stop campaigning for something no one wants.
I've only made one poll on the subject. If you have personal issues against specific threads, take it to customer support. Stop trying to derail my topic.Moonglum83 wrote: »
I believe you just went off topic....
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No, the post I replied to was already off topic *** troll.Edited by SFBryan18 on September 1, 2014 1:26PM2 -
mutharex✭✭✭✭✭Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.
No, it's just an attempt at putting finally this horse to rest. The system isn't like others you experienced but it works, even better than the one you envision, ie. against inflation and gold sellers. Also almost all the polls end up with people preferring the actual system so maybe this pet crusade of yours should just be put to rest? Does it punish lazy people? So?
How about you stop trying to silence others freedom to make a poll? Why are there so many people who try to play amateur moderators and tell others what they should be posting? If you think the post violates forum rules, then report it, but take your fascist advise back to where ever you got it.
Because 30 polls on the same subject is borderline OBSESSION.
Use one if you really feel that you have to, but stop campaigning for something no one wants.
I've only made one poll on the subject. If you have personal issues against specific threads, take it to customer support. Stop trying to derail my topic.
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grimjim398✭✭✭I do not like being forced to join a guild just to sell stuff. I am not saying there should be one place to sell everything, but I think individual players should gain the same abilities to post things for sale like the 50+ member guilds can. I have made one suggestion for what could be done in this thread:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/127759/hirelings-and-kiosks-an-idea-for-the-smaller-merchants
Whatever could be done, I believe would be better than allowing guilds to control trading. This is just my opinion and I wanted to see what others would say if given this very simple unbiased question.
You're not forced to join a guild to sell stuff since there are NPC merchants everywhere. I expect you just didn't make your point clear and you want to sell to players.0 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭grimjim398 wrote: »I do not like being forced to join a guild just to sell stuff. I am not saying there should be one place to sell everything, but I think individual players should gain the same abilities to post things for sale like the 50+ member guilds can. I have made one suggestion for what could be done in this thread:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/127759/hirelings-and-kiosks-an-idea-for-the-smaller-merchants
Whatever could be done, I believe would be better than allowing guilds to control trading. This is just my opinion and I wanted to see what others would say if given this very simple unbiased question.
You're not forced to join a guild to sell stuff since there are NPC merchants everywhere. I expect you just didn't make your point clear and you want to sell to players.
Really?Edited by SFBryan18 on September 1, 2014 1:27PM2 -
EinionYrth✭✭✭✭grimjim398 wrote: »I do not like being forced to join a guild just to sell stuff. I am not saying there should be one place to sell everything, but I think individual players should gain the same abilities to post things for sale like the 50+ member guilds can. I have made one suggestion for what could be done in this thread:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/127759/hirelings-and-kiosks-an-idea-for-the-smaller-merchants
Whatever could be done, I believe would be better than allowing guilds to control trading. This is just my opinion and I wanted to see what others would say if given this very simple unbiased question.
You're not forced to join a guild to sell stuff since there are NPC merchants everywhere. I expect you just didn't make your point clear and you want to sell to players.
Even then he could just hawk his stuff in \zone,like everyone else. meh.1 -
yiasemi✭✭✭✭I am surprised by the apparent blind need to make more imaginary money in an imaginary game. It sure explains the world. Me, I just flog stuff I don't want at a considered rate (ie did I already harvest enough greens for my crafting satisfaction) to outweigh my happiness in giving others pieces of a set. The extra money I can earn doesn't come into it, I earn enough to do what I want at a satisfactory rate. I can buy extra bags, motifs. That's it. Imperial horse is fine. So enjoy peeps.
Edited by yiasemi on September 1, 2014 1:31PM3 -
AshySamurai✭✭✭✭✭
✭... and it is borderline trolling. ...
No, here you're wrong. I dont wanted to troll anyone. Really. And I see, that you are very major member of this forum. It's cool, but I still dont know why you're beating a dead horse. We already have a few polls about it and I dont think that a new one is what we need.
BTW if this
, maybe you change title a little (how about: main issue of trading system)? Or add some text to your poll. Maybe some why you like or dont or something else If we are still talking about constructive discussion. Because you have 25 comments and none of them are constructive or usefull. Thanks.discussion is about the trading system in ESOMake sweetrolls, not nerfs!2 -
Moonglum83✭✭✭Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.
No, it's just an attempt at putting finally this horse to rest. The system isn't like others you experienced but it works, even better than the one you envision, ie. against inflation and gold sellers. Also almost all the polls end up with people preferring the actual system so maybe this pet crusade of yours should just be put to rest? Does it punish lazy people? So?
How about you stop trying to silence others freedom to make a poll? Why are there so many people who try to play amateur moderators and tell others what they should be posting? If you think the post violates forum rules, then report it, but take your fascist advise back to where ever you got it.
Because 30 polls on the same subject is borderline OBSESSION.
Use one if you really feel that you have to, but stop campaigning for something no one wants.
I've only made one poll on the subject. If you have personal issues against specific threads, take it to customer support. Stop trying to derail my topic.Moonglum83 wrote: »
I believe you just went off topic....
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No, the post I replied to was already off topic *** troll.
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SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭AshySamurai wrote: »... and it is borderline trolling. ...
No, here you're wrong. I dont wanted to troll anyone. Really. And I see, that you are very major member of this forum. It's cool, but I still dont know why you're beating a dead horse. We already have a few polls about it and I dont think that a new one is what we need.
BTW if this
, maybe you change title a little (how about: main issue of trading system)? Or add some text to your poll. Maybe some why you like or dont or something else If we are still talking about constructive discussion. Because you have 25 comments and none of them are constructive or usefull. Thanks.discussion is about the trading system in ESO
Not useful to you maybe. It's a poll. The purpose is to collect the opinion of the forum population. The usefulness of a thread is an opinion which will vary depending on the person. If you think a thread should have a specific purpose, make it yourself. I never asked for your advice.Edited by SFBryan18 on September 1, 2014 1:34PM2 -
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You mean like you have been every time someone criticizes the need for another poll on the subject of the trade system? Pot meet kettle, you're both black.Points for making the poll question totally unbiased though - that doesn't happen very often.
That was the point. Every poll on this subject is versus a global auction house or with extra answers. This is a simple yes or no question to see what the majority really want. Do they want the system to stay the same, or do they think is could be better.
Also note that as time moves forward, the game changes and so do opinions. Old threads on the subject could be outdated due to patches and old ideas. Your sarcasm is just another attempt to silence others from speaking their mind.
No, it's just an attempt at putting finally this horse to rest. The system isn't like others you experienced but it works, even better than the one you envision, ie. against inflation and gold sellers. Also almost all the polls end up with people preferring the actual system so maybe this pet crusade of yours should just be put to rest? Does it punish lazy people? So?
How about you stop trying to silence others freedom to make a poll? Why are there so many people who try to play amateur moderators and tell others what they should be posting? If you think the post violates forum rules, then report it, but take your fascist advise back to where ever you got it.
On topic, I love the current trade system. For those that want to take the time and be a "merchant" and make lots of gold, well they have that option. Those that don't want to take the time to do that can just join a trade guild or two and toss up the things they want to sell for the prices they want and forget about them until they sell or expire. If you don't want to join a trade guild then zone chat is your storefront. It's not perfect but nothing is. It has and will continue to evolve, but with the same core design at heart.
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