Hirelings and Kiosks: An idea for the smaller merchants.

SFBryan18

With the addition of guild kiosks, players in wealthy guilds can now get a chance to sell their stuff to the entire megaserver, but what about the rest of us?

I have an idea to allow people who've maxed out their trade skills to give items to their hireling to sell. These sales would have limits. Hirelings could only sell things from the trade they are associated with. Each of your hirelings would have an item limit of 5 or 10 items. And, to make things completely fair to the guilds, all items would be sent to a random kiosk without giving the seller any information on where.

What do you think?

Nox_Aeterna

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Sounds interesting.

AlexDougherty

This one won't happen
Just join a large training guild.

SFBryan18

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K.

Aldarenn

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Not a bad idea, I would like something like that. Probably given the idea that you would only make small amounts of gold.

AlexDougherty

SFBryan18 wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

This one won't happen

You mean like 99% of ideas pitched on forums? Thanks captain obvious, but it was just an idea to discuss. I didn't ask for advice, but if you're going to give it, please specify which large guilds we can join to gain access to these kiosks and tell us how to join them.

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Just join a large training guild.

I mean, if it's "just" that easy, then it should be no problem for you to tell us which ones have kiosks and how to get in. I await some feedback that tells us something we don't already know.

I mean it won't happen, because they've decided to go for the guild seller option, rather than the Global auction option. This is an attempt to bridge the two, and doing so would compromise the point of trade guilds, so they won't do it. I just didn't think the why needed spelling out.

As for trade guilds, they advertise all the time, some actually say how many active members they have, as an indication of how big they are. But I do get your point that guessing the size is often impossible, guess I would try joining two/three (provided I can) and see if they ar big enough, or get big enough.

Edit~ oh and thanks for the promotion, I was tired of being Sargeant-Major Obvious ^_^

SFBryan18

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Actually, Captain is likely refering to the O6 naval rank given to the commanding officer of a ship, so your previous rank would have been O5 Commander.

I personally looked to join a guild with a kiosk and they're not very easy to find or get into. And the kiosks change weekly, so there are no garentees.

This idea was to allow everyone access to random kiosks. Even though it will likely be forgotten in a few hours, it seemed to be worthy of discussion.

They could increase the tax on solo merchant sales to give more incentive to the trade guilds sales. The idea is to bridge the kiosks with a global market, and the idea of random locations would keep players shopping around for better prices.

pantaro30

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@SFBryan18 thx for the link to the thread. I like the idea a lot.It expands on the hirelings system and makes sense in tamriel. I have always felt what we have currently is a good start but thats all it is a start. just needs to be expanded and fleshed out more. This could be a good first step

ItsGlaive

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You don't need to be in a 'wealthy' trading guild to benefit from kiosks, kiosks actually go for quite a reasonable price and the money is made back through the sales and then some!

SFBryan18

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Xabien wrote: »

You don't need to be in a 'wealthy' trading guild to benefit from kiosks, kiosks actually go for quite a reasonable price and the money is made back through the sales and then some!

This idea if for players who don't belong to 500 player guilds.

Tandor

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Anything would be an improvement on the current system. However, as it happens, this is not a bad idea! Subject, that is, to not restricting it to those who had maxed out their trade skills - because there needs to be a trading system that is effectively open to all rather than an elitist one based solely on guild membership or high level.

DieAlteHexe

This has potential, I like it.

SFBryan18

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Tandor wrote: »

Anything would be an improvement on the current system. However, as it happens, this is not a bad idea! Subject, that is, to not restricting it to those who had maxed out their trade skills - because there needs to be a trading system that is effectively open to all rather than an elitist one based solely on guild membership or high level.

Well, the idea is that a player needs the hireling to be able to give them items to trade with, but maybe they could sell a certain amount for every skill point you use on them. The idea is open to rule changes, but most important that the individual would be able to post things for sale like the guilds.

My latest idea is that the kiosks would have two sections, a guild store and a hireling store, but perhaps they could just post items for sale in other random merchants inventories around Tamriel. I think anything is better than not being able to sell at all.

AlnilamE

This may work for alchemists and provisioners (and maybe enchanters), but for woodworking, blacksmithing and clothing, there is a lot of customization that goes into an individual order.

Between level, style, trait and set there are a ton of possibilities, and it's easier for someone to approach a crafter and say "I would like a level 45 great-sword with weighted in the daedric style from the Hunding's Rage set" than trying to comb through available inventory and try to find that.

Of course, a lot of people don't have any idea about traits and crafted sets, but I think crafters take pride in their work and want to put together something that works for their customers.

DieAlteHexe

@AlnilamE you raise a good point. Well, could still work for some crafts as you mention in your initial paragraph.

SFBryan18

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Guild kiosks don't really do anything for those custom orders either. I think that is a whole different subject of being able to place an order, but this idea is only for selling things. All the stuff we pick up around the world, it would be nice to just put them up for sale like in the guild stores. I don't care where the items show up as long as it's on the market.

Soloeus

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No. Impractical and messy.

If the problem has something to do with lack of commerce in smaller guilds, then this solution is kind of like... putting a bandaid on a brain hemorrhage. I oppose that model of a solution.

SFBryan18

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Soloeus wrote: »

this solution is kind of like... putting a bandaid on a brain hemorrhage.

Seems like an over exaggeration.

ShadowscaleSithis

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I think the coding for that to work would be to extensive. Instead of that why not just ask the hirelings to bring what you ask for and give them the money to get it?

SFBryan18

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wwusterbarthub17_ESO wrote: »

I think the coding for that to work would be to extensive. Instead of that why not just ask the hirelings to bring what you ask for and give them the money to get it?

The idea is for selling, not buying.