Craftable Torches - Woodworking Skill

AoEnwyr · August 2014

In TES games I have always carried a ridiculous amount to torches in my inventory because I tend to have my settings fairly dark to enhance dungeon atmosphere. I like using torches just for immersion at night time as well so I would love to see torches added as a craftable item at wood working stations. They could be used via the quickslot or assigned their own key.

What do others think?

bertenburnyb16_ESO · August 2014

well then dark would have to be really dark
I remember when I played Dragons Dogma, when it turned night, it was really pitch black, you had a little lantern wich you had to keep fueled if you wanted to see anything, I thought it was absolutely awsome the way they did it, it really brought out the atmosphere

UrQuan · August 2014

It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

Pele · August 2014

It's not a bad idea.

bertenburnyb16_ESO · August 2014

some examples of how it looked
(prob the pics are not allowed but its to give ou an idea)

on this one you clearly see the lantern hanging on my chars belt, you had to keep it fueled with oil or yer screwed

if the pics are removed you can check this topic, its in dutch but just klick open all the spoiler I posted there for the screenshots
4gamers.be/forum/index.php?/topic/2926-dragons-dogma/?hl=dogma

Horrum · August 2014

/torch - emotive. Is that what you are looking for? Problem is you can't equip a 1-handed weapon with the emotive.

purple-magicb16_ESO · August 2014

UlanX wrote: »

In TES games I have always carried a ridiculous amount to torches in my inventory because I tend to have my settings fairly dark to enhance dungeon atmosphere. I like using torches just for immersion at night time as well so I would love to see torches added as a craftable item at wood working stations. They could be used via the quickslot or assigned their own key.

What do others think?

Was this in Morrowind? I don't remember being able craft torches in Skyrim or Oblivion. Sounds like a cool idea tho. I agree that it would have to be pretty dark in order for people to have to use them. Not regular out in the wilds dark either where you get starlight/moonlight, but deep dungeon or cave dark where there's nothing else to throw light. This would certainly throw an interesting twist on battles. Fighting blind (in the dark) would be crazy fun!

Re Grue: not sure what that is, but it sounds nasty and not at all something I'd like to take on alone. Do they live under kids' beds? Cause I think I mite have had one as a kid. XD

Anyway, good idea. I'd be all for it!

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Torches were not in morrowind afaik.

/torch works well enough, too bad you can't move while using it.

This game doesn't really need torches though, it's not that dark even inside of caves and at night.

drallar · August 2014

This thread brought back fond memories of my human druid in EQ1 stumbling around in the dark trying to get through an unlit tunnel out of Surefall Glade and out into the world to adventure and getting so turned around bumping into walls that I ended right back where I started several times.

UrQuan · August 2014

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

Re Grue: not sure what that is, but it sounds nasty and not at all something I'd like to take on alone. Do they live under kids' beds? Cause I think I mite have had one as a kid. XD

It's a reference to an old text-only computer game called Zork. That line is what the game told you. If you asked what a grue was you got more of an explanation. Sure enough, if you didn't get a torch or get someplace with some light, you would be eaten by a grue. Yes, I realize I'm dating myself by admitting to have played text-only computer games...

bluesodafizz · August 2014

Yeah I think that would be cool, miss it from other es games.

AoEnwyr · August 2014

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

Was this in Morrowind? I don't remember being able craft torches in Skyrim or Oblivion.

They haven't been craftable (well not without a mod anyway) but I felt it would be nice to add to the Woodworking system in ESO.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Yea Dwarf Fortress adventure mode had some pretty nasty baddies that came out at night. They'd chase you until ti was light again too. I think I got powerful enough on several characters to actually kill them tho.

Dwarf Fortress is really the best game ever.

Nestor · August 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Torches were not in morrowind afaik.

/torch works well enough, too bad you can't move while using it.

This game doesn't really need torches though, it's not that dark even inside of caves and at night.

Yes, there were torches

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Torch_(Morrowind)

There were even lanterns too.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Lantern_(Morrowind)

Nice thing about them, if you held them in hand, they had a life expectancy. But, if you lit them, then put them on the ground, they would glow or burn forever. I made some nice mood lighting in my house with the Lanterns. They had a blue or red or yellow glow.

AoEnwyr · August 2014

Nestor wrote: »

if you lit them, then put them on the ground, they would glow or burn forever. I made some nice mood lighting in my house with the Lanterns. They had a blue or red or yellow glow.

I put some in unlit fireplaces in my Oblivion houses for both atmosphere and that nice crackling noise

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · August 2014

I have yet seen a need for a torch in ESO.

purple-magicb16_ESO · August 2014

UrQuan wrote: »

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

Re Grue: not sure what that is, but it sounds nasty and not at all something I'd like to take on alone. Do they live under kids' beds? Cause I think I mite have had one as a kid. XD

It's a reference to an old text-only computer game called Zork. That line is what the game told you. If you asked what a grue was you got more of an explanation. Sure enough, if you didn't get a torch or get someplace with some light, you would be eaten by a grue. Yes, I realize I'm dating myself by admitting to have played text-only computer games...

That's cool. Don't feel bad. I used to play a game called Utumno (not sure of the spelling). Pure text. Kids would never give it a second look today, but I'm an old D&D fan so it didn't bore me. It was more like a story than a computer game. Sort of like the old "choose your own adventure" books we used to get at the school library. Lol! Now that's old. Too old for even for any kind of graphics! Haha! Man I'm old :-(

c0rp · August 2014

They need to make /torch work while we are moving. When you pull your weps out it goes away. I would be satisfied with that.

Dexo · June 2015

I am also in favour of this feature. The Torch could be used as a weapon too, and slotted like we slot a dagger or whatever on the second hand; But Zenimax already knows that, it's a games studio after all. If a dungeon is too dark, just make those torches, lamps or braziers lit with our torch-weapon. Some of us prefer the adventure side of this games as opposed to the leveling and grind. This could be the potential to become best MMO ever. It already has the graphics, the Lore the tradition. It needs more game mechanics where players can create their own style of gameplay.

Revenant_Spartan · June 2015

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Torches were not in morrowind afaik.

/torch works well enough, too bad you can't move while using it.

This game doesn't really need torches though, it's not that dark even inside of caves and at night.

I remember torches and you could even pick up NPC's candles and candelabras and use them as a light source. And it wasn't a mod to that I remember -not the torches at least. You can even see torches used in the official Morrowind trailer.

But yeah, the game doesn't desperately -need- usable torches, but people would like them and would add to the game. It's not even an unrealistic request. Even if they were to just make /torch work like how NPC can walk with a torch.

rb2001 · June 2015

As I keep saying, it's a fairly trivial change to make the dark levels darker from the engine standpoint.

Torch mechanics and pitch black / dark areas/nighttime have been working since SNES days. This is not difficult to put in.

It would add a tremendous amount of fun to the gameplay.

Gidorick · June 2015

HOLY NECROTHREAD BATMAN!

I don't think we should be able to craft them. My thoughts are here. Looting and buying them would be good enough.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155836/the-need-for-functional-torches/p1

shane.roberts25b14_ESO · June 2016

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Torches were not in morrowind afaik.

/torch works well enough, too bad you can't move while using it.

This game doesn't really need torches though, it's not that dark even inside of caves and at night.

I can't remember for certain if there were torches or not, but I know for a fact Morrowind had lanterns.

imnotanother · June 2016

Gidorick wrote: »

HOLY NECROTHREAD BATMAN!

I don't think we should be able to craft them. My thoughts are here. Looting and buying them would be good enough.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155836/the-need-for-functional-torches/p1

I will second the "holy necrothread" statement!

But on topic, when I first started playing, at console launch, I was really wanting torches but I quickly got over it. Torch emote works okay for meetings etc.

Gidorick · June 2016

imnotanother wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

HOLY NECROTHREAD BATMAN!

I don't think we should be able to craft them. My thoughts are here. Looting and buying them would be good enough.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155836/the-need-for-functional-torches/p1

I will second the "holy necrothread" statement!

But on topic, when I first started playing, at console launch, I was really wanting torches but I quickly got over it. Torch emote works okay for meetings etc.

The fact that torches weren't a integral in their environment design (dark nights, spooky dungeons, etc.) says a LOT about how little ZOS cares about environmental immersion.

imnotanother · June 2016

@Gidorick
I agree. If night was pitch black it would add A LOT to the depth of this game.
Make a cave per zone that is a scary, creepy, nightmare to enter.

Taleof2Cities · June 2016

A Skrim pic of a guard outside city gates to illustrate the kind if darkness the OP is referring to ... great idea by the way.

Gidorick · June 2016

imnotanother wrote: »

@Gidorick
I agree. If night was pitch black it would add A LOT to the depth of this game.
Make a cave per zone that is a scary, creepy, nightmare to enter.

@imnotanother , check out these threads revolving around this topic:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155836/the-need-for-functional-torches/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/170536/immersive-darkness-concept/p1

imnotanother · June 2016

Gidorick wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

@Gidorick
I agree. If night was pitch black it would add A LOT to the depth of this game.
Make a cave per zone that is a scary, creepy, nightmare to enter.

@imnotanother , check out these threads revolving around this topic:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155836/the-need-for-functional-torches/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/170536/immersive-darkness-concept/p1

Great threads that were well put together.
I couldn't agree more.

I much rather things like this be implemented instead of all the vanity features.

Rohamad_Ali · June 2016

I'd like a torch to walk around with please

Gidorick · June 2016

imnotanother wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

@Gidorick
I agree. If night was pitch black it would add A LOT to the depth of this game.
Make a cave per zone that is a scary, creepy, nightmare to enter.

@imnotanother , check out these threads revolving around this topic:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155836/the-need-for-functional-torches/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/170536/immersive-darkness-concept/p1

Great threads that were well put together.
I couldn't agree more.

I much rather things like this be implemented instead of all the vanity features.

Ugh... you and me BOTH @imnotanother . We don't have functional torches or immersive nights but you know what we ARE going to get? HATS! That just SCREAMS "Elder Scrolls", doesn't it?