killerintheline9 wrote: »
This i wonder ,and agree. but still i get regular macro deaths on cyrodiil.
killerintheline9 wrote: »the fact that crit vet 12 dies within 2-3second is done by macro, not animation cancel.
Circuitous wrote: »killerintheline9 wrote: »the fact that crit vet 12 dies within 2-3second is done by macro, not animation cancel.
I give up. Remind me never to bother posting in a thread like this again, people are genuinely delusional.
killerintheline9 wrote: »
This i wonder ,and agree. but still i get regular macro deaths on cyrodiil.
Not sure what you aren't understanding about this but there is a skill delay and unless you are very slow, you can easily press all the required buttons within each skill delay or you could call it animation window. The only thing a macro will give you is the best speed of light attack into instant skill into block/bash and that is just as easy to accomplish without a macro. No matter what, there is a set delay between the timing of that chain of abilities and when you can do the next one. For example in the screen shot you posted, there are only four animation windows (activating Solar Prison, casting Unstable, and two Fire Ring casts) and two of them were precast so there are only two animation windows showing on the death recap and they are the two casts of Fire Ring. No matter what macros this guy had running, he did not cast those four spells faster than anyone else could considering people without macros can easily pre-load the next spell, making it fire as soon as the animation time would allow it.
Basically what looks to me that happened is you're a vamp or have very very low spell resist and went and jumped in some Templar's Unstable Wall AOE while they had Solar Prison running and were spamming Fire Ring attacks. Macros did not have anything to do with it, if they were used at all.
Basically what looks to me that happened is you're a vamp or have very very low spell resist and went and jumped in some Templar's Unstable Wall AOE while they had Solar Prison running and were spamming Fire Ring attacks. Macros did not have anything to do with it, if they were used at all.
killerintheline9 wrote: »Macros can not make abilities fire off any faster than if you pressed them yourself. Macros hurt yourself in pvp because you can't adapt on the fly.
That is false information with right componation its always faster than you would press it yourself, and it completely removes chance for human error, it is faster way to cast, and that is not fair play.
<--- this i understand my vamp my choice to make it walking grill,shame on me quite fun still, isnt it?I'm a vamp. It's just one of those things.
Running into an enemy PvP group who are all spamming impulse with a fire staff equiped, I'm dead in seconds as are any other vamps in my group.
Whether they are using macros or not makes zero difference.
Sure sometimes it's frustrating when they keep spamming that one spell, but it doesn't stop my fun, and when in a good group with good healers, I'm not dying anymore than most other players.
im glad that i made you friday better, i hope you stay happy and be that happy N'wahkillerintheline9 wrote: »Macros can not make abilities fire off any faster than if you pressed them yourself. Macros hurt yourself in pvp because you can't adapt on the fly.
That is false information with right componation its always faster than you would press it yourself, and it completely removes chance for human error, it is faster way to cast, and that is not fair play.
Considering how easy it is to weave light attacks and an ability I have a hard time believing *ANYONE* saying they cant do it without a cheat macro. This is one of the funniest posts I've ever read on here.
ViciousWayz wrote: »There should be no macro-ing of combat abilities. If you don't want to actually play, then don't play! It's like a game genie for MMOs really, sad kinda that people will actually use this in battle. It would be nice if ZOS took an official stance against this and had a way to detect it and make it a punishable offense.
GCDs and SCDs exist to prevent this sort of thing, to ensure the speed of attacks is normalised across all players, if the activity you're claiming happens (the NB attacks you refer to) then it's the game's fault that it doesn't have the mechanics to prevent it.Normally there's at least some lag that prevents these kind of deaths, but some players seem to be able to pull this off every time. Not blaming anybody as a cheater, and maybe they just live next to the server farm and have 0 ping, but it sure raises my suspicions.
fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »GCDs and SCDs exist to prevent this sort of thing, to ensure the speed of attacks is normalised across all players, if the activity you're claiming happens (the NB attacks you refer to) then it's the game's fault that it doesn't have the mechanics to prevent it.Normally there's at least some lag that prevents these kind of deaths, but some players seem to be able to pull this off every time. Not blaming anybody as a cheater, and maybe they just live next to the server farm and have 0 ping, but it sure raises my suspicions.
TBH what you describe seems way beyond 'macros' and well into game hacking territory.
I use the macro program on my Razer products in order to make it easy to use potions.
When I press a button on my mouse, Greymind add-on swaps to the potion I need, and it automatically presses Q afterward to use it.
I suppose I may get banned for it due to angry players, but it's still a better option than using the Q-Wheel.
So I dont think you get a really big advantage with macros, even with animation canceling.GnatB wrote:Sure, you may be able to animation cancel 1/100th of a second faster. Big friggin' whoop. That isn't going to be the deciding factor in who wins.
In 3 sec is more than possible to die IMO.it took 3,2315 seconds to death, 2 times spam cast.
killedbyping wrote: »I use the macro program on my Razer products in order to make it easy to use potions.
When I press a button on my mouse, Greymind add-on swaps to the potion I need, and it automatically presses Q afterward to use it.
I suppose I may get banned for it due to angry players, but it's still a better option than using the Q-Wheel.
So this is why middle mouse on Razor and Logitech mouses no longer work for Quick Slot items ?
killedbyping wrote: »There is a delay about 1 second betwin casting spells and half a second before you can light attack after block. No macro programs can bypass that, just NO.
Using macro wont give you much advantage, you can press button with that speed by your hands no problem.
If you see freaking alot of damage in few secs, it is not Macro, it is some kind of speed hack and you should report that immediatly.
killerintheline9 wrote: »Normally there's at least some lag that prevents these kind of deaths, but some players seem to be able to pull this off every time. Not blaming anybody as a cheater, and maybe they just live next to the server farm and have 0 ping, but it sure raises my suspicions.
No idea what you mean. On my 2014 Naga, I find the mouse wheel serves me far better set up for dodge roll.
Scroll forward --> Dodge forward
Scroll backward --> Dodge backward
Tilt mouse wheel right --> Dodge right
Tilt mouse wheel left --> Dodge left
Animation canceling with block and double tapping light attack then blocking again negates the delay. Hard to do with a mouse, easier to do if you use your keys, effortless if you use a macro. Makes a macro even more potent if it looks like:
AlienDiplomat wrote: »Banned for using the software that comes with your keyboard to make one button switch to the potion you want and use it in one click?
A bit harsh don't you think?
killerintheline9 wrote: »AshySamurai wrote: »I dont mind if someone uses macros. Why not? TBH I'm dont use it, but I could. First of all, we have only 6 skills. Not so much to use macros. And you dont use ultimate all time, so now we have 5 skills that we use all time (+ swap). I dont feel like I need it. But if someone want to use it - again why not?
And one more thing. If your macros "press buttons" to fast/often - you'll get kick from server. That was happend when I experimented whith quick slot wheel. So current system pretty fair for me.
You are absolutely wrong
And here is why:
Thats why you make THE delay between commands so accurate that human cant cast that fast, but macro can. And you don't have to cast often, one to 2 times is Enougth 2 players dead (1 player one fire res 1350. healt 3475, heavy armor vet 6 pink, with crit stone.1800spel res) (player 2. healt 2850 spel res 2100. ect light armor vet 11 pink stuff critstones)
on this picture example, http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ibxmx1&s=8#.U_a6z_mSxmM
it took 3,2315 seconds to death, 2 times spam cast.