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Should the disco ball be removed from Inner Light?
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Haxer✭✭✭Get rid of it.I totally agree, and want it gone, BUT to be fair I understand why they did it in the first place. They did it to have an easy visual cue that this player has stealth detection on. They don't want you to have to guess who has stealth detection on in PvP, so they made it as obvious and visible as possible.
So I get it, but it does look ridiculous.Edited by Haxer on July 15, 2014 12:16PMwww.dragontears.boards.net0 -
Drazek✭✭Get rid of it.Most annoying graphic in the game, hurts my eyes, gives me a headache. And blocks vision of what's going on around you in fights at times. Something needs to be done about it. I understand and agree with both sides of discussion here. It shouldn't be too hard for ZoS to change this to suit everyone.0 -
NakedSnake✭✭✭Get rid of it.
So you would like to keep your easygank caution sign. Maybe you could try being reeeaaaallllyyyy careful all the time.Taking away the glowy ball would be a nerf to stealth builds in pvp. You see the ball, you need be reeeeaaaaaallly careful if you want to try to sneak up on them.
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briandivisionb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Get rid of it.Pretty pleaseIf your group is bigger than 6 members gain 75% damage reduction.
Write this on the back of your box and see how many sales you get!
You won't get any new PvP players until this archaic AoE crap is fixed.
I for one won't resub until:
1.) You fix lag.
2.) You remove AOE caps we voted against.
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Moloyo✭Get rid of it.As a NB I'm offended by people who need a flying giant disco ball to detect them having inner magelight. And if your whole playstyle is using surprise attack for a oneshot kill take this as an oportunity to develop some real skills2 -
Inversus✭✭✭✭✭No, I like the disco ballthat's what magelight is thoughVR14 EH Sorc
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Fleymark✭✭✭✭✭No, just make it and every other toggle, especially pets, drop upon getting within so many units from a banker. And make spells uncastable in that vicinity as well.1 -
Martinus1972Soul ShrivenGet rid of it.Get rid of it or at least tone it down a lot. I'm using it only for dungeons for cannot stand this torch in my eyes even if it's gimping me by 20% of crit...1
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Aenra✭✭✭✭Get rid of it.yes yes yes yes
or at the very least make it optional
it's an epilepsy attack waiting to happen, seriously.
one more example (not bashing, it happens in all MMOs), where what looks cool to some dev, while toying with it for a few hrs, is actually a killer for the player. Who has to see it/live with it for hours non stop, every damn day
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerHey everyone! We've been seeing all the feedback regarding Inner Light, and want you to know that you will see a change with this once Update 4 goes live. The particle FX and light will be scaled down in both size and intensity so it will be a bit softer and less distracting overall.
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✭✭✭✭✭Get rid of it.It is a distraction.Silivren (Silly) Thalionwen | Altmer Templar | Magicka | 9-Trait Master Crafter/Jeweler | Master Angler | PVE Main - Killed by U35
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LtCrunch✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey everyone! We've been seeing all the feedback regarding Inner Light, and want you to know that you will see a change with this once Update 4 goes live. The particle FX and light will be scaled down in both size and intensity so it will be a bit softer and less distracting overall.
@ZOS_GinaBruno, Please tell me this will only apply to inner light and not the basde ability/radiant light morph. Or at the very least I hope the radiant light morph stays at the same level of brightness, but I may be in the minority there
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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Get rid of it.Just less bright. Still crappy as can be.
They do love their orbiting light balls. Now they added them also for some 5 set bonuses. Balls !!!, Balls !!!all the way trough....ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
BugCollector✭✭✭✭Get rid of it.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey everyone! We've been seeing all the feedback regarding Inner Light, and want you to know that you will see a change with this once Update 4 goes live. The particle FX and light will be scaled down in both size and intensity so it will be a bit softer and less distracting overall.
Hi,
Most people just want to get rid of the disco ball for the inner light morph. That's all. Just remove the ball.
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Zebug✭✭✭Get rid of it.I'd gladly give up the stealth detection part of the skill to have it not show on my screen. I just use it for the crit though2
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ThisOnePosts✭✭✭✭✭Get rid of it.It looks silly IMO. For those that go with the crit option and get glowing eyes, that should remove the orb. For those that want the orb, leave it for the other option. Simple.2 -
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✭✭✭ViciousWayz wrote: »It looks silly IMO. For those that go with the crit option and get glowing eyes, that should remove the orb. For those that want the orb, leave it for the other option. Simple.
I like the orb, and it is vital info in pvp to know that simply walking near someone is going to break your stealth as a visual cue, from a greater distance than most people. It's not like we have buffs/debuff indicators to tell us... we were told we should rely on visual cues. I don't care if they change it into a stationary pink teddy bear floating above people's heads with a rainbow unicorn hat on its head, but there needs to be some way to tell other than guesswork.-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
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NakedSnake✭✭✭Get rid of it.Pointless"Brilliant! Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?"2
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AoEnwyr✭✭✭✭No, I like the disco ballYou can never has too much disco! Just look at the moustaches we can choose from at character creation not to mention the Afro. Disco you way to VR12 baby!1 -
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So... You mean it will become smaller.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey everyone! We've been seeing all the feedback regarding Inner Light, and want you to know that you will see a change with this once Update 4 goes live. The particle FX and light will be scaled down in both size and intensity so it will be a bit softer and less distracting overall.Edited by Vunter on August 22, 2014 12:49AM2 -
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Why does something with the word inner in it's name have any external appearance at all?ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey everyone! We've been seeing all the feedback regarding Inner Light, and want you to know that you will see a change with this once Update 4 goes live. The particle FX and light will be scaled down in both size and intensity so it will be a bit softer and less distracting overall.
Why are ZOS fixated on this ridiculous animation?
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Phantax✭✭✭✭✭
✭Get rid of it.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey everyone! We've been seeing all the feedback regarding Inner Light, and want you to know that you will see a change with this once Update 4 goes live. The particle FX and light will be scaled down in both size and intensity so it will be a bit softer and less distracting overall.
Just get rid of it all together plzHigh Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
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Mondo✭✭✭✭No, I like the disco ballSpell is far to stong atm crit + stealth break it should be more than just optical nerfedIm not the Hero you need, im the Troll you deserve!
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✭✭✭Get rid of it.Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ViciousWayz wrote: »It looks silly IMO. For those that go with the crit option and get glowing eyes, that should remove the orb. For those that want the orb, leave it for the other option. Simple.
I like the orb, and it is vital info in pvp to know that simply walking near someone is going to break your stealth as a visual cue, from a greater distance than most people. It's not like we have buffs/debuff indicators to tell us... we were told we should rely on visual cues. I don't care if they change it into a stationary pink teddy bear floating above people's heads with a rainbow unicorn hat on its head, but there needs to be some way to tell other than guesswork.
Why the hell should the guys that sneak be able to know that I can detect them? Really ? .When you try to surprise attack gank someone, maybe there should be a chance that you fail. Sneaking should be risky, The light effects on my arms and eyes should be enough if not to much of a give away.
It doesn't even play that way most of the time though. The inner light user will usually be hidden also and you will not see his Disco Ball unless you have your own. I had plenty of encounters where I detected a sneak walking by a couple of meters away oblivious to my presence (until my Ambush
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No, I like the disco ballI like the ball of light that hovers around. I wish more magic had such persistent visuals.3 -
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✭Get rid of it.Get rid of the orbit all together and replace it with Skyrim type effect that howers over you.
Why is it that devs often think "This is cool" rather than "Is this plausible and practical"?
I mean if you think it from realism point of wiev... What mage would use a ball of light that orbits you to get better sight and some light in dak places? None. Think of cpnstant movements of shadows it would create, in dark cave, when behind you, your own body obscures the light to show forward, when in front of you, you would be blinded from the contrast of dark suddenly changing from dark to bright, dark to bright to dark to bright.. Not to meantion you would propably throw up soon because of this.
I for one use monitor and game setting that make many places dark and i would welcome a static source of light, preferrably torch for non casters and peaceful plausible magelight for casters.>>PC-EU Mostly PVE. Played since BETA<<1 -
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✭Get rid of it.madstoogb16_ESO wrote: »If I see a mage/whatever with it on I tend to avoid them. If it had no animation.. just be stupid.
Fun fact:
You cannot see that ball!
Stop inventing stuff...
Only the caster himself can see it!
It is invisible for everyone else exept people who are grouped with him.
Really? Have not seen this on other after Beta but in very late beta, i could see this ball. One mage had it and he was not in my group.
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✭Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ViciousWayz wrote: »It looks silly IMO. For those that go with the crit option and get glowing eyes, that should remove the orb. For those that want the orb, leave it for the other option. Simple.
I like the orb, and it is vital info in pvp to know that simply walking near someone is going to break your stealth as a visual cue, from a greater distance than most people. It's not like we have buffs/debuff indicators to tell us... we were told we should rely on visual cues. I don't care if they change it into a stationary pink teddy bear floating above people's heads with a rainbow unicorn hat on its head, but there needs to be some way to tell other than guesswork.
Why the hell should the guys that sneak be able to know that I can detect them? Really ? .When you try to surprise attack gank someone, maybe there should be a chance that you fail. Sneaking should be risky, The light effects on my arms and eyes should be enough if not to much of a give away.
It doesn't even play that way most of the time though. The inner light user will usually be hidden also and you will not see his Disco Ball unless you have your own. I had plenty of encounters where I detected a sneak walking by a couple of meters away oblivious to my presence (until my Ambush )
If you're that close other players can actually hear the soundFX of the magelight, so even though they can't see you if they're using game audio they can hear you. Just a heads up for those that don't know.
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This is just false, though sometimes in PVE situation you won't see the ball spinning around other players,likely it is because they popped it before you were within that zone. However in Cyrodiil I can always see the magelight circling around players.madstoogb16_ESO wrote: »If I see a mage/whatever with it on I tend to avoid them. If it had no animation.. just be stupid.
Fun fact:
You cannot see that ball!
Stop inventing stuff...
Only the caster himself can see it!
It is invisible for everyone else exept people who are grouped with him.
Edited by LtCrunch on August 22, 2014 9:00AMNerdSauce GamingLaughs-At-Wounds - Sap tanking since 03/30/14ßrandalf - Light armor tanking since 03/03/15Brandalf Beer-Belly - Tanking drunk since 12/30/162 -
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✭No, I like the disco ballNakedSnake wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »again sadly a pull with to few options to pull from, had to chose NO
but its a No, but make the ball either a different way so people still can see I use that skill on me, its only fair thats its a major deal in fights, or make it smaller
So you would like to see the present effect removed for something different.
Then why vote no?
voted no, at a point where I didnt realize that the enemies in pvp actually cant see the disco ball, so yeah wrong vote.
this just needs a change for something better, make glowing eyes or something small and fun0