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The carrot on a stick: Is this what keeps an MMO fun?

SFBryan18
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Is the endless chase for the top gear a good reason to keep playing a game, or is it a pointless illusion to make up for lack of real activities?

Discuss.
Edited by SFBryan18 on August 21, 2014 8:28AM

The carrot on a stick: Is this what keeps an MMO fun? 163 votes

I play for the new gear.
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TehMagnusGoresnortRhazmuzLockhearteUPrimej4k3s7aFrenkthevileDuelWieldingCheesyPoofsAnastasiaPBpsyBBSoonerXeres14MondoLorgendMasamunedesu 15 votes
I want my hard work to hold value.
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Squirrel.
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  • DieAlteHexe
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    Squirrel.
    Exploration, questing, socialising, learning classes, having fun. Your poll lacks options, so I didn't vote.

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • SharranAes
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    Pretty sure it varies greatly from player to player
    Some might want that shiny new gear, while others want to compete in PvP, and yet other might be more interested in achievement huntings

    I don't think there is any one true answer
    It all depends on who you ask
  • SFBryan18
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    Squirrel.
    Exploration, questing, socialising, learning classes, having fun. Your poll lacks options, so I didn't vote.

    The poll is about the never ending chase for the top gear, and asks if that is what keeps people playing.
  • DieAlteHexe
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    Squirrel.
    SFBryan18 wrote: »
    Exploration, questing, socialising, learning classes, having fun. Your poll lacks options, so I didn't vote.

    The poll is about the never ending chase for the top gear, and asks if that is what keeps people playing.

    So, where's the option for "no" then?


    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • SFBryan18
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    Squirrel.
    SFBryan18 wrote: »
    Exploration, questing, socialising, learning classes, having fun. Your poll lacks options, so I didn't vote.

    The poll is about the never ending chase for the top gear, and asks if that is what keeps people playing.

    So, where's the option for "no" then?

    Squirrel.
  • DieAlteHexe
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    Squirrel.
    In my world a rodent does not equal "no". :) But if that's your intent, I shall go select a rather silly way to convey "no".

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • Soloeus
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    I want my hard work to hold value.
    I play because I enjoy Horizontal Advancement when I reach the top. I despise constant Vertical Grinding to keep chasing the carrot.

    Within; Without.
  • SFBryan18
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    Squirrel.
    In my world a rodent does not equal "no". :) But if that's your intent, I shall go select a rather silly way to convey "no".

    Squirrel is the choice for people who don't understand the answers. The second answer of wanting your hard work to retain value would be the counter to wanting new gear.
    Edited by SFBryan18 on August 21, 2014 8:40AM
  • DieAlteHexe
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    Squirrel.
    I couldn't actually care less about having "über" gear. If I am able to do what I want/need to do, I'm good. I don't do "carrots" nor "sticks". :) I play to have fun, see what's around the next bend.

    As for "not understanding", incorrect. Choices were...limited.

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • Stx
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    I want my hard work to hold value.
    I find it hard to keep playing knowing that my efforts will basically be a never ending struggle.

    I feel that if you know you will have to replace gear in the near future, it really deters you from wanting to even attempt crafting it.

    I already feel bummed knowing that vr14 will make my legendary gear much less legendary... it took me along time to make it.

    I am okay with new tiers of gear every so often... but two level cap increases in 5 months? Hell to the no.
  • Pele
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    Squirrel.
    Bacon.
  • DieAlteHexe
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    Squirrel.
    Stx,

    MMOs are "never-ending" by nature. Always something to aim for, work toward etc. Otherwise they'd be awfully finite and boring once one reached the end of advancement.

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • SFBryan18
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    Squirrel.
    As for "not understanding", incorrect. Choices were...limited.
    That was just one of the reasons to choose it. It was also the choice if you like squirrels, or if you're a wiseguy. I like squirrels.
    Edited by SFBryan18 on August 21, 2014 8:53AM
  • Sindala
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    Squirrel.
    Blue Squirrel, wet fish, monkey nuts.
    Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.
  • Tankqull
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    Squirrel.
    vertical progression on a reasonable schedule is ok - a year or more - but this is actually hillarious.
    spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused

    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Mondo
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    I play for the new gear.
    WE NEED new Gear = New Content that is what brings Fun! But not in short time or 4 month sessions!
    Im not the Hero you need, im the Troll you deserve!
    - Survived the WoW Pre LK Rogue Forum "Come at me Bro" -

    L2P = Accept that DK is OP and stop complaining
  • h1roshim4_ESO
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    Squirrel.
    PvP is what keeps an MMO fun.
  • Mondo
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    I play for the new gear.
    Yeah PVP and what goal if you reached all? You need something like Gear or titles or some stuff that rewards you for skill or time you spent. New Gear is really nice but not every 2-3-4 Months .....
    Im not the Hero you need, im the Troll you deserve!
    - Survived the WoW Pre LK Rogue Forum "Come at me Bro" -

    L2P = Accept that DK is OP and stop complaining
  • NadiusMaximus
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    I want my hard work to hold value.
    Nothing peeved me more than taking my lvl80 paladin into cataclysm in wow and, no joke, the first trash mob dropped white gear that was better than the best in slot item I ground for 3 months trying to acquire. I quit a day latter when the new and improved pvp gear was released and I figured it would take 4 months of pure grind to afford.

    Play to have fun, sure I will
    Play to acquire gear, yes but only to a point
    Play after new expansion changes gear sets making mine worthless, yes but not every frigen two months.
    Play a gear tread mill with grinding being the only means of obtaining rewards, no way man.
    Edited by NadiusMaximus on August 21, 2014 9:16AM
  • EinionYrth
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    Squirrel.
    I don't mind an occasional cap raise but at the moment they appear to be using the stick to poke the carrot up my backside. 3 raises within 5 months? c'mon.
  • JD2013
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    Squirrel.
    Do you remember when games used to be played just for fun, rather than just endless grinding for the best gear? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
    Sweetrolls for all!

    Christophe Mottierre - Breton Templar with his own whole darn estate! Templar Houses are so 2015. EU DC

    PC Beta Tester January 2014

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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • SFBryan18
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    Squirrel.
    I remember a game called Oblivion, and another called Skyrim, where treadmills were not necessary because the game was fun. On my second and third completion of Oblivion, I played the entire game in Sheogorath's outfit. In Skyrim, my character always wore the Archmage's robes. TES has always been about the story, not some ridiculous grind. Now they want to turn the multiplayer version of TES into a carrot on a stick never ending grind fest for the best gear so you can always be the strongest, MMO clone, but that is not what makes a good TES game.

    I do not want to play the game for gear. I do not want to be disadvantaged. This entire concept of giving grinders better stuff is stupid. It's a pointless never ending chase to over power other players, and it pisses me off that they are taking TES in this direction. I really hope the speculation that all gear will equal level 50 becomes true because I am not going to play TES just to grind for a fair fight. The champion system will make or break this game.
    Edited by SFBryan18 on August 21, 2014 10:14AM
  • MikeBob
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    SFBryan18 wrote: »

    The carrot on a stick: Is this what keeps an MMO fun?
    No, but it keeps game subscriptions active. ;)

    (And I didn't vote either, because the answer I would've chosen wasn't among those listed.)

  • DieAlteHexe
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    Squirrel.
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Do you remember when games used to be played just for fun, rather than just endless grinding for the best gear? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

    That's how I still play 'em and if I can't? Then I move on to another. Too many available to turn a game into a job.


    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    Squirrel.
    I was distraught when Blizzard took away the carrot on a stick, I loved that trinket.
  • Paske
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    Squirrel.
    Gear is nice. But its not what keeps me going. Its simply one asspect of what keeps me going.
  • Ghenra
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    I want balanced PvP, no more.

    PD: Another stupid poll for noobs.
  • UnholyPerfection
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    Squirrel.
    You can tell the poll is pointless when even the TC votes the pointless option :|
  • kevlarto_ESO
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    Squirrel.
    Gear grinds are no fun to me there are so many other things you can do along with some gear progression as other in this thread have pointed out.

    To me loot gear etc etc are the product of a good time and playing the game.
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