I still haven't even managed to hit v12 yet and I agree...I thought the level cap was 50 and I could begin to enjoy end game content..,.LOL WRONG. Let the rest of the content grind begin and go back in time for some reason!

PlagueMonk wrote: »

I could add to that list with Zenimax's inability to bring the NB class up to DK/Soc lvls (while still nerfing the NB class ironically)

Hmm, NBs are one of the most sought after classes in the game for Trials, along w/ DKs atm.

While I would also love to see some fixes to NBs (I have 2 of them currently), it's a little silly to say that ZOS hasn't done anything to bring them up to speed.

Life is pretty good for NBs right now.

If you're talking specifically about stamina-based NBs, that's definitely not a NB-only issue.

In regard to the PvP point: Based on how some of the polls pan out it these forums, the majoirty of players are far more PvE orientated and only occasionally, if at all play PvP. I'm not saying PvP isn't important to those people who play it (PvP players certainly seem to be vocal about it) but it is probably a lower priority than fixing up PvE issues.

I like the new patch info

New patch is fixing enchanting. Thats a big thing thats been needed for a long time for crafters...so thats a plus at least right?

kieso wrote: »

And how about some sort of [snip] makeover kit? Enough of this "we're trying to figure out how to introduce it into the game" Just put it out there already jeez.

Just imagine you hearing "I heard there's someone in Riften that can alter your appearance.". Then it turns out to be a HAGRAVEN!

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

Tendeep wrote: »

...and now more VR levels to grind out...

Your first mistake is to rush to max VR. Play the game and the VR levels will come eventually.

Tendeep wrote: »

• No heavy armor fixes
• No true Stamina build fixes
• Asinine Bow changes
• No Werewolf fixes - at frickin all, wtf, seriously its been since... release?
• New weapon enhancements that honestly make me feel like you think I will get distracted by "ohhhh, shiny!"
• Absolutely no PvP love what so ever (unless the gold in bags is like 50g-100g a pop or more). No PvP exp love.

Your second mistake is to think that the things on this list has to get fixed in a major update and can't get fixed in one of the many minor patches in between.

Tendeep wrote: »

I am tired of complaining about the direction of this game and how it continues to ignore customer feedback. We have no voice...

Your third mistake is to not use the Feedback option ingame. Instead you've chosen to whine on the forums, in what basically comes down to "I'm quitting if this and this and this don't get fixed!".

Patience is a lost virtue in todays society. I hope you find either that, or another game to your liking.

Tendeep wrote: »

• No heavy armor fixes
• No true Stamina build fixes
• Asinine Bow changes
• No Werewolf fixes - at frickin all, wtf, seriously its been since... release?
• New weapon enhancements that honestly make me feel like you think I will get distracted by "ohhhh, shiny!"
• Absolutely no PvP love what so ever (unless the gold in bags is like 50g-100g a pop or more). No PvP exp love.

- Add a straight damage resistance buff to passives for Heavy Armor, and then make each armor line ability require 5/5 of that armor to use. Finally, double the melee damage bonus. Wham, heavy armor is a contender.
- Nerf light armor passives (which they are doing). Stamina builds, if you take only them, are awesome right now. It's the simple fact that magicka builds are still capable of soloing group delves and VR dungeons that is why things are still unbalanced. We're at a point where they just need to go ahead and tone down light armor passives and stave light/heavy attacks. I think ZOS realizes this, and is starting that trend.
- Bow is still the lowest DPS out there, but we have high utility and when used right can avoid damage entirely. Any changes to bow, in my opinion, are moot at this point, though the lower cost will make us stamina cheap after recent medium armor changes.
- Werewolf is ... well, borked. Lots of talk on this subject. Transformation costs too much, and takes up an ultimate slot which really is a bummer. If it was a special slot all it's own, maybe (that way those players could have two bars). If it wasn't so expensive, maybe. But even when you change, the output is often negligible. See better conversations in these very forums for more.
- Bring on new enchantments. As long as they are craftable. And traits. More content is a plus to me.
- Didn't we get a PvP experience boost in the last update? Seems like Cyrodiil is sitting pretty, but having more issues with bugs than content at the moment.

I said things then I deleted those things.

Let me pour an OIL pot here.

Don't forget about all that WAXES and Rosin's you just threwed away while crafting gear after 1.3.3 patch, because you will need to craft new gear

killedbyping wrote: »

Let me pour an OIL pot here.

Don't forget about all that WAXES and Rosin's you just threwed away

Thank goodness I wear Heavy Armor, then. I also don't Midas' Touch everything I wear just because legendary gear is so readily availed.

what a *** pve game

Varicite wrote: »

PlagueMonk wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

PlagueMonk wrote: »

I could add to that list with Zenimax's inability to bring the NB class up to DK/Soc lvls (while still nerfing the NB class ironically)

Hmm, NBs are one of the most sought after classes in the game for Trials, along w/ DKs atm.

While I would also love to see some fixes to NBs (I have 2 of them currently), it's a little silly to say that ZOS hasn't done anything to bring them up to speed.

Life is pretty good for NBs right now.

If you're talking specifically about stamina-based NBs, that's definitely not a NB-only issue.

Maybe I need to clarify.......a melee/DW NB and not a skirt wearing resto staff NB is in need of help. In my experience, DK and Sorc are all that the high end groups want for that high AoE DPS.

As a NB I cannot stand toe to toe with either a Sorc or DK. If I don't surprise kill them in the first 2-3 secs they will pull of a few simple maneuvers to negate most of my attacks.

Trying to play a NB as the class was described is at best challenging and often times infuriating.

Again, none of your issues are specific to NBs. They are issues w/ stamina-based builds in general.

A high-end group that doesn't want a Destro / Resto NB is probably not nearly as "high-end" as they think they are. But that's not what we're talking about, is it? What you're talking about is the failure of stamina builds to keep up w/ magicka-based ones.

After all, Sorcs don't have any sort of amazing AoE baked into their class. They are spamming Impulse just like you are able to. In fact, NB AoE is every bit as great (better, imo) than a Sorc any day of the week.

One of my NBs is stamina-based w/ dual 2 handers. The other is a dual resto-staff wielder in light armor. They are both extremely fun to play, but the resto NB is far and away more efficient.

I also have 2 Sorcs; one is a DW / 2h stamina-based Sorc, the other is a more traditional dual Destro staff magicka-based Sorc. The magicka-based Sorc is, again, far more efficient at DPS.

NBs themselves are in a good place, and will be even better when certain abilities are fixed.

Stamina-based ANYTHING, outside of ganking people in Cyrodiil, is the issue.

So if you want changes, REAL changes, stop asking for NB buffs and start asking for buffs to stamina weapons and builds. THEN you can have your DW rogue archetype character. Otherwise, you're just asking them to make Nightstaves even better.

As I figured, you are talking about skirt and staff using NBs which I was not. I am referring to the NB SPECIFIC SKILLS. Our NB skills lack a decent AoE, Sorc and DK can out DPS us, we have virtually no group CC, what individual CC we have is easily negated with a roll out (and in PvE bosses are now immune to ALL our CC abilities), we have to split our damage between spell and weapon because our few necessary NB skills (like TS and devour soul) are spell based, and I could continue but will stop there.

Sure, I could pick up a staff and wear a skirt and use the few good NB skills as utility while doing most of my damage by staff but that is NOT the type of NB I signed up for. I'm a 70% magicka, 30% stamina based Assassin/DW NB amd am not wanted in high end groups.

So trying to play a NB AS DESCRIBED (i.e. being a med armor single target stealthy assassin) is the problem and is not being addressed. (and yes, part of that is stamina but not completely). The traditional NB is NOT in a "good" place. sorry.

@Tendeep Please make use of the yellow pills during the weekdays, red pills are for Saturdays while blue pills are for Sundays, respectively.

@inspiral1‌ Me too