Reiterpallasch wrote: »

It's just an item used for a quest and not a quest reward

Yeah well so is the frostedge bandit disguise, yet no issues with us keeping that one right?

Unless you get in combat with another frostedge bandit. Then you lose it and can't get another one.

I would like to see any quest in which you use a disguise provide that costume as a reward. In order for you to be able to keep it permanently, perhaps it could no longer function as a "disguise" after the end of the quest, and instead be entirely cosmetic.

Enodoc wrote: »

Reiterpallasch wrote: »

It's just an item used for a quest and not a quest reward

Yeah well so is the frostedge bandit disguise, yet no issues with us keeping that one right?

Unless you get in combat with another frostedge bandit. Then you lose it and can't get another one.

I would like to see any quest in which you use a disguise provide that costume as a reward. In order for you to be able to keep it permanently, perhaps it could no longer function as a "disguise" after the end of the quest, and instead be entirely cosmetic.

I wear a Maormer Sea Viper disguise I got in a quest. For me that was part of the reward of the quest. I also collect costumes/disguises so this is a big part of the game for me.

Nermy wrote: »

Seems a bit heavy-handed to give something like the cool gem and then say, sorry, we fecked up, give us it back! Especially when it costs nothing. I say change it to part of the quest reward.

I always wanted to get my whole raid in Cyro to equip the gem and run around as a huge goblin ganking group!

Mostly Harmless has done so, it's a riot... I'm sad to see them talking about disabling it.

Thralgaf wrote: »

It's just a bug, and it's not game breaking. Really not worth making a big deal about it. Making an mmo is hard work. If you think you can do a better job, go do it.

Oh, please. That old argument again? Slaughtering and butchering a cow is hard work too, and I wouldn't even know where to begin, but that doesn't mean I can't complain when I am served a bad burger.

We are living in a civilized trade society, where we pay for other people's expertise. When they fail to deliver on that expertise, it is perfectly OK to complain. With your argument, not even highly skilled experts in relevant fields would be allowed to complain about a complex product like ESO, because no single person would know how to do it better all on their own.

I am paying ZOS to keep me entertained. When they tick me off with stupid decisions, I reserve the right to bicker about it, thank you. I will also praise them when they do things I like. Or am I perhaps not competent to do that either as a mere mortal?

jrgray93 wrote: »

I just joined a PVP guild that asks members to wear it. I wasn't too excited about that because I worked hard on my appearance, but they're so well coordinated, I'd wear a pink dress if they asked me. Fully against the removal of an item that does nothing to detract from the game.

I'm amazed that this went over a full page without mentioning the PvP aspect.

The reason your guild wants you to wear it (and the reason ZO is fixing it) is because the disguise reduces your hitbox. It's being used as an exploit.

So that's why we can't have nice things.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

I just joined a PVP guild that asks members to wear it. I wasn't too excited about that because I worked hard on my appearance, but they're so well coordinated, I'd wear a pink dress if they asked me. Fully against the removal of an item that does nothing to detract from the game.

I'm amazed that this went over a full page without mentioning the PvP aspect.

The reason your guild wants you to wear it (and the reason ZO is fixing it) is because the disguise reduces your hitbox. It's being used as an exploit.

So that's why we can't have nice things.

Then disable it in PVP areas. Problem solved.

Enodoc wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

I just joined a PVP guild that asks members to wear it. I wasn't too excited about that because I worked hard on my appearance, but they're so well coordinated, I'd wear a pink dress if they asked me. Fully against the removal of an item that does nothing to detract from the game.

I'm amazed that this went over a full page without mentioning the PvP aspect.

The reason your guild wants you to wear it (and the reason ZO is fixing it) is because the disguise reduces your hitbox. It's being used as an exploit.

So that's why we can't have nice things.

Ah well, there's the reasoning then. I didn't realise it reduced the hitbox.

That aside just disable disguises in cyrodill, everytime something gets abused in PVP the PVE people get screwed over

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

I just joined a PVP guild that asks members to wear it. I wasn't too excited about that because I worked hard on my appearance, but they're so well coordinated, I'd wear a pink dress if they asked me. Fully against the removal of an item that does nothing to detract from the game.

I'm amazed that this went over a full page without mentioning the PvP aspect.

The reason your guild wants you to wear it (and the reason ZO is fixing it) is because the disguise reduces your hitbox. It's being used as an exploit.

So that's why we can't have nice things.

Good to know, thanks. I won't wear it then. I refuse to partake in BS.

If players are not supposed to keep this particular item, the simple solution is to make a trophy reward item with a similar effect. Perhaps you have to slay a specific number of goblins and as the reward you get a nifty trinket that lets you take on the appearance of a goblin in a similar fashion to how the skeleton one works. Or perhaps when you complete out all the quests in the zone that has the goblin quest, you are given a trophy as a reward. It doesn't necessarily have to be tied to that one particular quest. It should work the same as the skeleton costume except have a goblin appearance instead. By basing it off the skeleton one that works instead of the quest gem, you remove the exploit.

Unless of course, the skeleton one isn't a trophy and, is instead another exploit.

In which case, all I can do is sigh and say that a few costumes need to be added.

People want to keep this bauble, ZOS should find a way to let them.

Big booo to Zenimax! The Shadowsilk gem is awesome, why in Azuras name remove it?

Iago wrote: »

That aside just disable disguises in cyrodill, everytime something gets abused in PVP the PVE people get screwed over

^^This.

Goblins (and other disguises, skellies, etc ...) are fun. So we should keep them.

However, goblins (and other disguises, skellies, etc ...), in PvP, can serve as a tactical advantage, either blatantly (reducing the hit-box), or more subtly - when disguised, other players can't see your armor type (or even, race), and thus lose an chance to make a reasonable guess at your playstyle.

Let's face it : even if both wield a 2Hander, you won't approach an Orc in heavy armor the same way you'd approach an Altmer in robes. But a goblin ?

Just disable all disguises in PvP. Give the goblin fans a similar quest reward which gives the good looks but a full hitbox

Although I do not have the item because I completed the quest before they made this quest item, I still don't think they should remove it.

Make it as a quest reward or leave it like that and that's it. Just make unable to be used in Cyrodiil and problem solved.

Good news that the item is staying

So if it's staying, could we fix the horse riding animation so I don't surf around Cyrodil?

Oh and fix /dance too please. Every good goblins gotta dance!....

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just want to clear up some confusion. If you abandon the quest A Goblin's Affection, the Shadowsilk Gem will be removed from your inventory. However, if you pick up this quest and even complete it, you will keep the Shadowsilk Gem and can transform yourself into a goblin. We are not planning to take this item away from you.

Great to hear! Can we get your CSR educated on this issue? Additionally, I'd love to get my ticket handled for the mystery of the vanishing Shadowsilk Gem?

Seriously, we are very happy to hear of this. I'll spread the good word.

-Trish H. / @TheOubliette