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*RESOLVED!* Shadowsilk Gems are going away in next patch, says GM. Goodbye Goblins.

TheOubliette
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Hi people. I originally posted this on teso-rp.com and while some reading this couldn't give a whit about role-playing, you still might enjoy that with the use of the Spidersilk Gem you can look like a goblin, fight as a goblin and it's just cosmetic, causes no gameplay issues, all emotes and combat works fine as a goblin and it provides no tactical advantage on the PvP field.

Role-playing within the Elder Scrolls cosmology is something many do and to see a reduction in the role-play content is pointless and can not possibly encourage the role-play subscriber base. I certainly enjoy role-play and have found there are many excellent ways the ESO team has made it easy and feel immerse to do so.

Some even role-play as goblins and while i do not, I think it's kinda cool that some do it. I don't but some do and when it happens, I tend to roll with it. It's kinda cool. Well, after having some difficulty with one of my items vanishing, I was informed that the "Spidersilk Gem" was NEVER intended to be kept after the mission "A Goblin's Affection" is completed.

Regardless of what was intended, I feel that having these as Trophys at the end of the mission, is a very cool and fun item for many and DEEPLY promotes RP in a game that often struggled to provide RP choices and options, or even dare I ask, props.

Here's the email, claiming that in the next patch, all our lovely Shadowsilk Gems are going to go poof:
GM Brandon wrote:
Response By Email (Brandon) (08/18/2014 08:29 PM)
Hi Trish!

I'm really sorry to hear about your missing Shadowsilk Gems. I completely understand how frustrating it is to have an item removed so suddenly from your inventory, as many players have kept the gem through their adventures in Tamriel as sort of a collectors piece because of how unique the transformation effect is.

However, this was not an item intended to be kept after the completion of the quest A Goblin's Affection. Like many other transformations your character will go through during their journey to reclaim their soul from Molag Bal, they are meant to be temporary. In the case of the Shadowsilk Gem, an unintended bug has kept this item from disappearing from players inventories and was allowing players to hold onto its effects long after then was intended. The gem should properly disappear in a fix within an upcoming patch.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to be back in touch and I'd love to help. Make sure to keep an eye out for upcoming news about The Elder Scrolls Online by watching our official page and social channels:

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Regards,
Gamemaster Brandon
The Elder Scrolls Online Team

Now, the fill thread was a lot longer taking three GMs to make it to Brandon, and only to give me an answer that seemed to indicate the further attrition of fun items we can use for role-play within the world of ESO. At a time when all o fus are paying a monthly when most games are free-to-play, I do not feel the answer is to remove something that has no mechanical impact on our game-play and provides victimless enhancement.

I hope this reaches the attention of management who can look at this issue and say to us, "We will not be removing any cosmetic objects from the world, but adding more." We at TESO-RP.com would appreciate it.

Thank you,
-Trish H. / @TheOubliette
  • gurluasb16_ESO
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    You can turn into a skeleton, why not a Goblin?
    As a roleplayer I completely understand this. It's a cosmetic effect only, it should be allowed.
  • xaraan
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    They shouldn't get rid of this IMO. Initially, there was no gem, you just became a goblin for the mission, then they started giving out the gem - why bother changing it if they aren't going to let you keep it? It's neat, let it stay I say.
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  • Syrrisdevlin
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    are you kidding me that gem was the only reason I did that stupid quest come on goblin FTW you cant remove the shadow silk gem I mean its one thing to make it so future people can not obtain it but its a whole different thing to remove it and take it away from those who all ready have it if it was a mistake well then it was your best mistake to date so don't mess it up by removing it I love running around as a goblin im even a goblin on the forums come on zos
  • Iago
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    no! I just got my spidersilk gem...... What harm does it do to let us keep them!?
    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

    -Thomas Pain

  • ThisOnePosts
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    While I don't use it, I have a few of them between my characters and one stored in the bank as backup --- for a rainy day!

    If this was a bug, it should be made official because it's a good one. People have fun with it, so what's the problem?

    @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ @ZOS_TristanK‌ can you please bump this up to whomever the proper channel would be and get back to us if this is for certain or not? It's not going to make or break the game for me in any way, but I don't see how removing a fun sort of "trophy" item is a positive thing when it causes no problems now that I have seen, heard, nor read of. Thanks!
  • nicholaspingasb16_ESO
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    If we can turn into a skeleton, why not a goblin?
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  • Auralia
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    They want to take away a fun item. Iam really disappointed :(
  • Iago
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    how are these different from any other disguise they let us keep?
    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

    -Thomas Pain

  • tengri
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    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
  • Soloeus
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    NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks for taking away nice things, Zenimax.

    You discovered something harmless and purely cosmetic wasn't getting deleted, thus the players could keep the item. So, instead of being a good company and letting players keep their prize and making it part of the quest reward, because you are adaptive to your customers interests...

    You take it away. Thanks for peeing in the pool, Zenimax.

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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    I think all of these trinkets should be emotes unlocked by mission anyway.
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
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  • Iago
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    Soloeus wrote: »

    You take it away. Thanks for peeing in the pool, Zenimax.

    that's an awesome analogy

    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

    -Thomas Pain

  • Exarch
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    No more goblin dance?! :-(
  • GnatB
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    I was under the impression if you get attacked while under the effects of the gem you lose it? That's happened to me with most of the disguise type items.

    (And yes, happened to me with the gem too. Finished the quest, was on the way to hand it in, stopped to watch somebody fighting the goblins in front of me. Wasn't paying much attention, and got tagged by a column AoE fire attack. Lost the gem. (So I promptly abandoned the quest and did it over))

    Be sort of peeved if I lose it again when it isn't my fault, that was only yesterday.
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  • Iago
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    Exarch wrote: »
    No more goblin dance?! :-(

    not unless the powers that be read this thread and are moved by it enough to show mercy to us poor folk.
    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

    -Thomas Pain

  • Neizir
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    This isn't a "fix", ZOS is not fixing what is broken, this is not broken. It's just yet another insult to the RP community, and ZOS wasting resources to remove a non-broken item when those resources could go to fixing game-breaking bugs.
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  • GreenTea
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    I really hope they reconsider the decision.

    It's a bug, but a cool one that's promoted some pretty interesting RP. Though I suppose my character won't miss them. One of the pesky things raided her kitchen just the other day. ):
    Edited by GreenTea on August 19, 2014 8:47AM
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  • Kreetar
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    aww, I liked being seriously taken aback while on my adventures and seeing a skeleton in the bank or a Goblin scurrying about the market. :disappointed::broken_heart:
    dip me in the blood of mortals and throw me to the Dremora

  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    Absolutely Boo Hiss. I'm guessing this won't just apply to goblins but will include skeletons etc. That will peeve a whole lot of people off. I would recommend ZOS rethink this pinhead idea.
  • Apothecy
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    Absolutely Boo Hiss. I'm guessing this won't just apply to goblins but will include skeletons etc. That will peeve a whole lot of people off. I would recommend ZOS rethink this pinhead idea.

    The Gemstone of Skeletal Visage was the reward given to you for completing the quest The Bargain’s End, so it won't apply to that as well.
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  • ravenhartb14_ESO
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    I personally love RP. I love that a minority of ESO is embracing RP. I love that ESO offers an opportunity to revive a pastime enjoyed by those of us who are entering our mid - later years.

    Sadly, the new generation is taking over. No more 16+ hour boss fights. No more sense of accomplishment. When WoW players (laughably) consider themselves "hardcore".

    Instead, our boss fights last about as long as our morning bladder voiding. Our RP and imaginations are laughed at as "super nerdy" and the "hardcore" player logs into game 2 hours a week and 10 hours into the forums.

    .... And elements that accidentally become doorways to a world filled with wonders are removed in lieu of a world full of ezmoad, qq, and "give me raid gear and max lvl at launch or I'll cry to my subscription paying parents".

    My suggestion for the industry:
    Encourage RP
    Increase the challenge
    Focus on the reward for hard work, not on placating the masses who cry because vr 12 isn't immediately unlocked at preorder.

    Daddy's money =/= industry success. Daddy's money = 6 months of titillation followed by a mass exodus of subscriptions.

    Core elements; like RP, = lasting community involvement and satisfaction
  • Reiterpallasch
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    I can all but guarantee that this is because they can't fix the animation issues when using it while riding a horse.
  • ZoM_Head
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    You can turn into a skeleton, why not a Goblin?
    As a roleplayer I completely understand this. It's a cosmetic effect only, it should be allowed.

    Because a quest reward works differently than an item needed for a quest.
    mDKs still need a lot of love!
  • ravenhartb14_ESO
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    Because a quest reward works differently than an item needed for a quest.

    Why not make it a quest reward then? Problem solved, everyone's happy
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    Because a quest reward works differently than an item needed for a quest.

    Why not make it a quest reward then? Problem solved, everyone's happy

    I agree. Despite the fact that it was a bugged quest item that was accidentally kept, everyone enjoys using it. Go ahead and "fix" the issue that was causing it to be kept, but add it back as a Trophy quest reward as well.
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  • Circuitous
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    That's just silly, don't change this.
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  • james_vestbergb16_ESO
    Can't help but wonder if this somehow is tied to the riding animation bug, a.k.a the horse surfer bug. Meaning they cant fix the bug so they just remove the entire costume instead?
  • Nermy
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    Seems a bit heavy-handed to give something like the cool gem and then say, sorry, we fecked up, give us it back! Especially when it costs nothing. I say change it to part of the quest reward.

    I always wanted to get my whole raid in Cyro to equip the gem and run around as a huge goblin ganking group! >:)
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  • Reiterpallasch
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    It's just an item used for a quest and not a quest reward
    Yeah well so is the frostedge bandit disguise, yet no issues with us keeping that one right?
  • Thralgaf
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    It's just a bug, and it's not game breaking. Really not worth making a big deal about it. Making an mmo is hard work. If you think you can do a better job, go do it.
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