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How big a threat is the coming autumn/fall games rush, to ESO?
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Requiemslove✭✭✭Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
You worry about everything. ;-)
Yea probably.0 -
ers101284b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.1 -
Requiemslove✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.1 -
khele23eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The games you mentioned and the consoles are single player opportunities. ESO is an MMO, therefore no big threat as they attract totally different player groups.
I wouldnt be so sure. Theres always been player overlap between fantasy MMOs and fantasy RPGs. Im definitely considering taking a month off from whatever my current MMO will be to play DA:I and later W3.
Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on August 16, 2014 3:36PMP2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.0 -
Phantax✭✭✭✭✭
✭There are some big games coming out in the next couple of months...
Destiny
Sims 4
Assassins Creed 4
Sid Meiers Civilisation - Beyond Earth
COD
Alien Isolation
That's just a few of the bigger names from a list comprising of over 40 titles.
And yet Zenimax seem to have little interest in putting out content to hold onto their solo players?
For the MMO purists -
Warlords of Draenor (WoW) - expansion coming soon
RIFT 2.8 - expansion just released
Wildstar - just released
Star Citizen - coming soon
Everquest Next - coming soon
Not to mention new content from GW2, SWTOR, EVE Online, Secret World, LoTR
That's a hell of a lot of games and content all vying for our hard earned cash. There are 2 titles there that I am definitely going to buy, maybe they will get my subs allocation (we'll have to wait and see).
Either way its a lot of competition for ESO and dishing out content after content for one player group while ignoring the others won't help their cause. Neither will this repeatable launching of updates that are bugged to hell !
Maybe this will affect Zenimax subs, maybe it won't. Either way, with the current speed and regularity companies are pushing out games and content Zenimax need to be doing something special to hold onto out loyalty... and our cash !
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ers101284b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.Edited by ers101284b14_ESO on August 16, 2014 3:41PM0 -
Phantax✭✭✭✭✭
✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
I'm a werewolf. If you vamps don't like it.... Bite me !
We're not retreating... we're advancing in a different direction !1 -
Elad13✭✭✭In the past dragon age was a good game but not ES....which in my mind all games were measured by the fun I had in oblivion, skyrim. Saying that developers learn from past successes and failures and to be honest I feel most people use the ES games has a standard.
Saying that I am looking forward to returning to console and playing with my friends come September 9. For the release of destiny. I have struggled to find the "fun" in teso. And can say that while I enjoyed ESO for the first 2 months it is at a point that the crashes and continued broken issues and lack of feeling that you can always grow stronger has pretty much ended any real excitement for pc games in general. Simply for me the community is much more separated by lack of voice support and building friendships compared to consoles.
So yes I think that any new game has an effect on existing games and more so in ESO. I came here to pre pair for the console which seems to be pushed back so far that it isn't funny. Based on the in game typing and forums alot of people are seeing the things they enjoy pushed back or falling second to areas they are not interested in.
Yes each of the mentioned titles pose a threat to ESO...and how big will all be based on each success. If Destiny is as fun as the beta then I see that pulling me away. If dragon age is something that looks better then cut scenes that I will probably pick that up. Surprisingly all the bad news has made most my xbox friends much less excited about ESO but still I see ESO doing well for consoles when and if it ever hits...but the extra sub fee will turn alot of people away because the extra pay to play is not a mind set of console players.
No one can see the future true but you can gather information and assume a good % of people feel the same way. There's a good % of people that love ESO...aand a good amount that just find it coming up short. I believe destiny with its MMO like features will show the biggest impact for those console players but I also feel that console players doing what I did to get a jump start for ESO consoles have already left or will be very soon. Based all on my personal opinions a general feelings.1 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The Evil Within does look pretty interesting. I will pick it up when it's released. It will probably be something I play a bit on the weekends.Edited by Tabbycat on August 16, 2014 3:44PMFounder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Requiemslove✭✭✭There are some big games coming out in the next couple of months...
Destiny
Sims 4
Assassins Creed 4
Sid Meiers Civilisation - Beyond Earth
COD
Alien Isolation
That's just a few of the bigger names from a list comprising of over 40 titles.
And yet Zenimax seem to have little interest in putting out content to hold onto their solo players?
For the MMO purists -
Warlords of Draenor (WoW) - expansion coming soon
RIFT 2.8 - expansion just released
Wildstar - just released
Star Citizen - coming soon
Everquest Next - coming soon
Not to mention new content from GW2, SWTOR, EVE Online, Secret World, LoTR
That's a hell of a lot of games and content all vying for our hard earned cash. There are 2 titles there that I am definitely going to buy, maybe they will get my subs allocation (we'll have to wait and see).
Either way its a lot of competition for ESO and dishing out content after content for one player group while ignoring the others won't help their cause. Neither will this repeatable launching of updates that are bugged to hell !
Maybe this will affect Zenimax subs, maybe it won't. Either way, with the current speed and regularity companies are pushing out games and content Zenimax need to be doing something special to hold onto out loyalty... and our cash !
Exactly the point I wanted to make only I did not have the names or words for. Thanks. ZOS seem determined to only follow 1 path at this moment. It will be good if they hold themselves to new content every 6 weeks, yet some have already said they got to fix the current issues which ARE in the game as well. Eventually they have to take stock. My fear is with all that is coming soon they will get lost in the crowed too much. I don't want that to happen, and hope even if a lot stop playing they don't stop paying. As with everything personal finance decides in the end.1 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Why do the solo players keep forgetting about the whole Orsinium thing that's coming up?Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !
Agreed, those numbers are useless, because they get influenced by the people selling the products. The only way you can find out is to wait.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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Dayel✭✭✭The only game coming this year that will attractive me is DA3, however, I will still be subscribed to and playing ESO at the same time. In fact, WoW too. Course being retired makes this a lot easier.0 -
ers101284b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !
First off I wasn't using it as proof, he wanted the numbers I gave it to him. Second if thats true then why does WoW have less likes than the number of people subbed. Why does FF14 have less likes than the number subbed? why does Wildstart have only 250k likes which was less than when they released 3 months ago?0 -
Requiemslove✭✭✭The only game coming this year that will attractive me is DA3, however, I will still be subscribed to and playing ESO at the same time. In fact, WoW too. Course being retired makes this a lot easier.
So just for comedy gold value here. You will be playing 3 games AT THE SAME TIME. If you manage that I do say would be some mighty feat, and would require much doffing of caps. In the extreme minimalist chance it happens, provide evidence. :P0 -
Phantax✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why do the solo players keep forgetting about the whole Orsinium thing that's coming up?
We don't forget, its just a pain in the Ors having to keep waiting for any meaningful solo-endgame content
High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
I'm a werewolf. If you vamps don't like it.... Bite me !
We're not retreating... we're advancing in a different direction !0 -
Requiemslove✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !
First off I wasn't using it as proof, he wanted the numbers I gave it to him. Second if thats true then why does WoW have less likes than the number of people subbed. Why does FF14 have less likes than the number subbed? why does Wildstart have only 250k likes which was less than when they released 3 months ago?
I was asking how many are subscribed to the page, not how many likes it has. They are two different things. So far as my admittedly limited knowledge of the site, is aware of. Subscribers are the amount who want to be made aware of updates and news etc, likes are how many times people have clicked the "like" button.0 -
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✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !
First off I wasn't using it as proof, he wanted the numbers I gave it to him. Second if thats true then why does WoW have less likes than the number of people subbed. Why does FF14 have less likes than the number subbed? why does Wildstart have only 250k likes which was less than when they released 3 months ago?
WOW doesn't need to sell itself like that, everybody knows about it, so farming likes isn't going to advertise it very much. FF14 is in a similar position, although not as strong.
Wildstar might be using Like farms to raise it's status on facebook/twitter, but not as intensely as it would have been three months ago. Not saying it is/was though.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !
First off I wasn't using it as proof, he wanted the numbers I gave it to him. Second if thats true then why does WoW have less likes than the number of people subbed. Why does FF14 have less likes than the number subbed? why does Wildstart have only 250k likes which was less than when they released 3 months ago?
WoW already had millions of subscribers before Facebook even existed...lol
Also if you took note of ESOs numbers we had most of those before the game was even released into open Beta.
Funny thing is... after the game launched the number of subs is still no where near as many as ESOs facebook likes ! ? (now what does that say?) High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
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Requiemslove✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !
First off I wasn't using it as proof, he wanted the numbers I gave it to him. Second if thats true then why does WoW have less likes than the number of people subbed. Why does FF14 have less likes than the number subbed? why does Wildstart have only 250k likes which was less than when they released 3 months ago?
WoW already had millions of subscribers before Facebook even existed...lol
Also if you took note of ESOs numbers we had most of those before the game was even released into open Beta.
Funny thing is... after the game launched the number of subs is still no where near as many as ESOs facebook likes ! ? (now what does that say?)
That a lot of people were interested but many did not follow up on that interest because of...developments?1 -
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✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !
First off I wasn't using it as proof, he wanted the numbers I gave it to him. Second if thats true then why does WoW have less likes than the number of people subbed. Why does FF14 have less likes than the number subbed? why does Wildstart have only 250k likes which was less than when they released 3 months ago?
WoW already had millions of subscribers before Facebook even existed...lol
Also if you took note of ESOs numbers we had most of those before the game was even released into open Beta.
Funny thing is... after the game launched the number of subs is still no where near as many as ESOs facebook likes ! ? (now what does that say?)
It doesn't say anything which is why I didn't want to use it as a source. Man go back and read the actual posts. The only thing I said was that we had enough players to be successful then we had an influx after the steam sale, we had an influx after the last patch, and there is still a demand for the console release which will bring in more people yet again.0 -
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Or this. Hope its this. If its this when [?] ESO goes console it will be in a much stronger position.0 -
Requiemslove✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !
First off I wasn't using it as proof, he wanted the numbers I gave it to him. Second if thats true then why does WoW have less likes than the number of people subbed. Why does FF14 have less likes than the number subbed? why does Wildstart have only 250k likes which was less than when they released 3 months ago?
WoW already had millions of subscribers before Facebook even existed...lol
Also if you took note of ESOs numbers we had most of those before the game was even released into open Beta.
Funny thing is... after the game launched the number of subs is still no where near as many as ESOs facebook likes ! ? (now what does that say?)
It doesn't say anything which is why I didn't want to use it as a source. Man go back and read the actual posts. The only thing I said was that we had enough players to be successful then we had an influx after the steam sale, we had an influx after the last patch, and there is still a demand for the console release which will bring in more people yet again.
Only success is a variable for every person. For you, success could be the game has enough active subs to continue, and to supply future content. Yet for another, it could be they would see success as there are so many people the super-servers struggle to cope with the amount, that millions are playing. That ZOS are considering more servers because of this. I am sure, ideal success for the top people at that company is exactly that millions are subbed.
I say this just to play the devils advocate. Please take it as such. :P0 -
Ninnghizhidda✭✭✭✭ESO would and should be the best thing ever. I still hope they will finally get their act together and sort out the points where it is lacking (badly).
Sadly, the last Update, and from what it seems the next one too, does little to address certain issues. Primarily, the "mages" story, or "Elder Mages Online" thing.
Personally, if and when ESO actually gives me the real option to play the "archetypal warrior" type I like (and have been able to greatly enjoy in each and every Elder Scrolls game before), I will never look for any other MMO for years to come.
Or... I will just have to sigh and let it go with utter disappointment. As it is, I am still waiting, and gave it one more chance with a new 3 months sub, but it is the last chance.
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Surragard✭✭✭✭Not everyone stays subbed to an MMO even if they're enjoying it. They drop the subs for a month or two to play a new game they want to try out and then come back later. The problem isn't necessarily people leaving its whether or not they'll want to come back. Right now there are a lot of game updates, new features, and new faction quests in the pipeline. That should be a good pull to get people to come back in.I don't always drink Skooma, but when I do I go to the Southwall Corner Club. May you walk on warm sands my friends.0 -
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✭✭✭Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !
First off I wasn't using it as proof, he wanted the numbers I gave it to him. Second if thats true then why does WoW have less likes than the number of people subbed. Why does FF14 have less likes than the number subbed? why does Wildstart have only 250k likes which was less than when they released 3 months ago?
WoW already had millions of subscribers before Facebook even existed...lol
Also if you took note of ESOs numbers we had most of those before the game was even released into open Beta.
Funny thing is... after the game launched the number of subs is still no where near as many as ESOs facebook likes ! ? (now what does that say?)
It doesn't say anything which is why I didn't want to use it as a source. Man go back and read the actual posts. The only thing I said was that we had enough players to be successful then we had an influx after the steam sale, we had an influx after the last patch, and there is still a demand for the console release which will bring in more people yet again.
Only success is a variable for every person. For you, success could be the game has enough active subs to continue, and to supply future content. Yet for another, it could be they would see success as there are so many people the super-servers struggle to cope with the amount, that millions are playing. That ZOS are considering more servers because of this. I am sure, ideal success for the top people at that company is exactly that millions are subbed.
I say this just to play the devils advocate. Please take it as such. :P
Well we will never have millions of subs. Aside from WoW no MMO will ever have millions of subs. WoW Developers were shocked that WoW got popular and even said they will never be able to do it again. Even the Wildstar devs said that if you even keep 35% of your playerbase at launch you did well. Being a Megaserver we will never see more actually get added. but if 300-400k is considered a success for a sub based MMo and we have 772k (even more than that now I'm sure) Then I would have to say profit=success and 11 million a month is not considered doomed or even close to being a failure.0 -
Requiemslove✭✭✭Not everyone stays subbed to an MMO even if they're enjoying it. They drop the subs for a month or two to play a new game they want to try out and then come back later. The problem isn't necessarily people leaving its whether or not they'll want to come back. Right now there are a lot of game updates, new features, and new faction quests in the pipeline. That should be a good pull to get people to come back in.
It could just be me, thinking its 1999 again, and I am that idealistic naïve young fool, but why, if you love something, and want it to succeed and had a subscription would you cast it aside because you wont be playing for a month or two?0 -
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✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Requiemslove wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »It won't affect it in a negative way. Fall/Winter are big game buying times. It is also when people are in doors more. ESO has already been out a while meaning people looking to pick up a game will be able to buy it on a discount, plus with all the updates and the justice coming out by then it will give people more of a reason to try. I think Fall and Winter will see an influx of new and returning players.
I hope your right. Wish I had your faith.
Plus when they finally release consoles there will be another influx but that won't help us over here because we won't be playing with them.
Some may already have arranged a transferal, PC games are infinitely more mod-able true as it is, but some have social commitments they would prefer to keep. As for sales when ESO does go on console, here is hoping you're right. The games early life may have damaged those.
It hasn't. I am active on their Facebook and there is about 30 new posts a day asking about console release. People are losing their minds over it.
30 a day...I would not call that "losing their minds" In actual fact its a bit lukewarm if you ask me. Had you said 3000, or 30,000 or heck, even 300, that would be more like it. But 30 is a bit worrisome.
The facebook page is like the forums a very very very very small percent of people look at it. Your dooming and glooming over nothing. Want more numbers? FF14 is considered a huge success has released on PC,PS3, and PS4, and has around 500,000 subs. Last numbers we got where around 772,000 and that's only releasing on PC. That was also before the steam sale which saw yet another influx of players. I have seen more "Im coming back" posts in the past month vs the "I Quit" posts. This past content also another small influx and a lot of people I have seen talking are waiting for the justice system and then will be coming back. So get your panties out of that knot and quit worrying.
1. This thread is NOT dooming and glooming. You mistake recognising obvious faults and potential threats for throwing in the towel. I am committed to this MMO much as I am another one that is much older yet I hold a similar love for the world. If this were dooming and glooming I would write ESO off, I do not, I say it has a tough road ahead, and it would be an idiot to say that is NOT true.
2. No, I do not want numbers, I do not want you jumping on something and getting all irritable over what is NOT there. Do not be so defensive, and stop being such a fan boy, everyone else here is grown up enough not to do so, please do the same. In any case the 772.000 is a guestimate. ZOS wont release numbers until the 6 month point, or the 1 year point.
In any case. If you want to give actual numbers how many are subscribed to that facebook page, knowing that figure would shed light on if 30 is good or bad, depending on the amount of facebook subscribers there are.
Ok want facebook numbers? 1,872,286 likes not sure how thats proof of anything but there you go. The fact is the game keeps growing and getting more players with every patch. People where predicting its doom since it was announced. Quit worrying and just enjoy it. If it fails it fails nothing we can do about it. Get into the game, play it and enjoy.
You do know that facebook likes are provided by companies (similar to gold farms) that employ people just to sit and click likes all day? That's why big companies pay so much to facebook in order for them to promote their content !
First off I wasn't using it as proof, he wanted the numbers I gave it to him. Second if thats true then why does WoW have less likes than the number of people subbed. Why does FF14 have less likes than the number subbed? why does Wildstart have only 250k likes which was less than when they released 3 months ago?
WoW already had millions of subscribers before Facebook even existed...lol
Also if you took note of ESOs numbers we had most of those before the game was even released into open Beta.
Funny thing is... after the game launched the number of subs is still no where near as many as ESOs facebook likes ! ? (now what does that say?)
It doesn't say anything which is why I didn't want to use it as a source. Man go back and read the actual posts. The only thing I said was that we had enough players to be successful then we had an influx after the steam sale, we had an influx after the last patch, and there is still a demand for the console release which will bring in more people yet again.
Only success is a variable for every person. For you, success could be the game has enough active subs to continue, and to supply future content. Yet for another, it could be they would see success as there are so many people the super-servers struggle to cope with the amount, that millions are playing. That ZOS are considering more servers because of this. I am sure, ideal success for the top people at that company is exactly that millions are subbed.
I say this just to play the devils advocate. Please take it as such. :P
Well we will never have millions of subs. Aside from WoW no MMO will ever have millions of subs. WoW Developers were shocked that WoW got popular and even said they will never be able to do it again. Even the Wildstar devs said that if you even keep 35% of your playerbase at launch you did well. Being a Megaserver we will never see more actually get added. but if 300-400k is considered a success for a sub based MMo and we have 772k (even more than that now I'm sure) Then I would have to say profit=success and 11 million a month is not considered doomed or even close to being a failure.
Err... EVE Online is sub based, has a 'single' megaserver and has over half a million subs (and it's a niche game)
It can be done, the company just needs to make sure they are doing whatever they do very well. WoW and EVE are great examples of this !
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✭✭✭Requiemslove wrote: »Not everyone stays subbed to an MMO even if they're enjoying it. They drop the subs for a month or two to play a new game they want to try out and then come back later. The problem isn't necessarily people leaving its whether or not they'll want to come back. Right now there are a lot of game updates, new features, and new faction quests in the pipeline. That should be a good pull to get people to come back in.
It could just be me, thinking its 1999 again, and I am that idealistic naïve young fool, but why, if you love something, and want it to succeed and had a subscription would you cast it aside because you wont be playing for a month or two?
Different reasons. I have a friend who wants to play but he got kicked out of his house and now lives without internet. I had a guy in the guild who had to quit because he was in the hospital more than at home. Sometimes you do love the game but there is not enough content to keep playing at that point but want to come back with the next update. Personally I have lost my job and if I don;t find one soon I might even have to quit for a month or 2. These things happen.0