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I need real advice please

lycanslerwb17_ESO
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fighting mannimarco, im disabled, i can only use one arm, so can someone tell me how to fight him this way. im a templar, level 49 and i just cant do it. been trying for over 1 week. tried all different skills, i use a dest staff. My stats are, Magic 32, Health 9 Stamina 7. I use a purple food, and my staff does 100 damage with 24 flame damage.

Please advise me
  • ShadowscaleSithis
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    If you know someone in real life who plays the game maybe let them try it for you. I have a nightblade who got trounced with him also.

    For you, you may want to look into getting a mouse that has a lot of buttons. When I shopped for one at Best Buy there was one there with like 12-15 buttons on it that may help you.
  • KleanZlate
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    It's been a while since I fought Mannimarco. Have you tried different strategies against him? If I recall correctly it was a matter of switching between a ranged weapon and something for close combat at the right times. I fought him as a Nightblade so I had to keep my distance to kill adds, build up ultimate and use siphoning (heal) abilities. There was a trick to beating him. I haven't played as a templar so I can't really advise you on that. Have you tried searching for videos on youtube?
  • lycanslerwb17_ESO
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    any gm,s wanna help lol.
  • Sallakat
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    I pretty much stood at the side of the room, only moving out of aoe on the floor. I just used heavy attacks + occasionally DoTs (if I remember correctly it was the Soul Magic skill) on him and one HoT here and there to keep me up. You could go interrupt him but I never bothered lol

    Oh yeah and I was using destro + resto staff combination fpr this.
    Edited by Sallakat on August 6, 2014 11:26AM
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  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    the whole game would be tough like that, there are some gaming mice, some not shaped like normal mice either, that have a crazy amount of buttons.

    I wish I remember what the brand name was.

    Also @badmojo that wasn't even remotely funny
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  • Syntse
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    It's even hard for me to imagine how one is able to play with just one hand. Of course mouse like Razer Naga could help but still.

    Or course people with disabilities will find ways to do stuff. Is it then the movement that gives the issue here or something else. Many people have had problems to defeat this boss but eventually with right food, skills, priority and gear they have managed to do it.
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  • Azarul
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    I would think about respeccing to the 0-49-0 method also. Or atleast get your health to be the highest one.
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    Syntse wrote: »
    It's even hard for me to imagine how one is able to play with just one hand. Of course mouse like Razer Naga could help but still.

    Or course people with disabilities will find ways to do stuff. Is it then the movement that gives the issue here or something else. Many people have had problems to defeat this boss but eventually with right food, skills, priority and gear they have managed to do it.

    In the MUD I used to play there were a ton of blind players. Since it was all text they had it read to them via a program, but this text in combat scrolled very very fast and many were still able to be competitive in pvp. They just adapted by using systems for the mud client that replaced or blocked a lot of the flavor text.

    I think razer naga was the one I was thinking of.

    Curious OP, are you missing your arm to your shoulder or perhaps do you have a portion of the arm left. I wonder, if you do, if you can use that to your advantage.
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  • crislevin
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    nvm
    Edited by crislevin on August 6, 2014 12:11PM
  • stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO
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    A mouse with lots of buttons would be my advice. Agility is definitely one key to success in ESO combat. Ideally, you want to be able to use the mouse, the movement keys and the ability keys all at once. I have seen people with full use of both arms use only one hand for gaming, and the other exclusively for chatting, drinking, texting, making phone calls and scratching their behind. Not particularly for ESO, though, and I did not take note of what kind of mouse they were using.

    I used to be an FPS enthusiast, and some fights are much easier if you treat them as an FPS encounter. Some seemingly difficult fights can be won by just staying clear and using basic attacks. There may be other strategies that work for this particular fight, though.
  • rotiferuk
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    fighting mannimarco, im disabled, i can only use one arm, so can someone tell me how to fight him this way. im a templar, level 49 and i just cant do it. been trying for over 1 week. tried all different skills, i use a dest staff. My stats are, Magic 32, Health 9 Stamina 7. I use a purple food, and my staff does 100 damage with 24 flame damage.

    Please advise me

    There is an eight way foot controller available.

    "Stinkyboard is unlike anything else out there. It is the revolutionary next step in game controller technology. Patented Return to Neutral (R2N) technology allows for lightning-quick, precise control, while keeping your foot in a relaxed, natural position. More functionality. Less fatigue."

    http://stinkyboard.com/stinkyboard/
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  • theyancey
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    There used to be a foot pedal mouse available. You could move the cursor with your existing mouse and use your feet for the right/left click operations. If you can't find one a local computer shop may be able to build one for you. I had this problem a decade ago when my shoulder froze.

    As an aside, please contact customer support via phone. Like all companies, Zenimax is required to abide by the ADA laws that require that they make their premises and products, in this case virtual, accessible to all regardless of disability. ZOS can easily abide by this in several easy ways from buffing your toon to having a GM assist you in the quest. If the progressive history of Zenimax and ZOS is any indication they will be happy to make this happen for you.
  • zhevon
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    MIght want to check out ablegamers.com in particular the forums. Although they are light on ESO specific content - they might have good mouse suggestions. (The one ESO thread I saw was not a positive one)
    Edited by zhevon on August 6, 2014 12:19PM
  • lycanslerwb17_ESO
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    I still have the arm, but i have several torn ligaments in the elbow and shoulder, and im awaiting surgery. Moving the fingers is very painful, and its strapped up.I have the razor Deathadder keyboard atm, ill have to save to get a new one.
    Thank you everyone for the repies
  • andersvaeldsb16_ESO
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    You can avoid this fight by simply going back to the entrance after you have initiated the fight. Then your compagnions will take him out in app. 10 minutes.
    Not very brave but it works.
  • Arsenic_Touch
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    theyancey wrote: »
    As an aside, please contact customer support via phone. Like all companies, Zenimax is required to abide by the ADA laws that require that they make their premises and products, in this case virtual, accessible to all regardless of disability. ZOS can easily abide by this in several easy ways from buffing your toon to having a GM assist you in the quest. If the progressive history of Zenimax and ZOS is any indication they will be happy to make this happen for you.

    Amazing how someone actually tried to take sony to court over it and failed. Stern v. Sony Corp., No. 09-cv-7710, slip op. at *4 (C.D.Cal. Feb. 8, 2010)
    So where did you get the brilliant idea that the ADA required video game companies to do anything as you suggested?
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  • Xeres14
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    I defeated him on my NB and 2h weapon templar.

    First, like suggested, I think you'd need a mouse or controller that would give you more buttons. I cannot say if this is necessary but I think it would help.

    The fight is a fight of attrition, not a DPS race. The 2 big things here is to interrupt that channeled cast he does and kill the adds ASAP. Standing right in front of the portal using puncturing sweep really works well for the adds.

    Also, IMO the only damage you should do to Mannimarco is light or heavy weapon attacks. Save your magicka and stamina for the adds, interrupts and self healing.

    At least that's what worked for me.
    Edited by Xeres14 on August 6, 2014 12:34PM
  • Tabbycat
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    You can avoid this fight by simply going back to the entrance after you have initiated the fight. Then your compagnions will take him out in app. 10 minutes.
    Not very brave but it works.

    I did this on the PTS before the game went live. Mannimarco would eventually come up the stairs and knock you through the door so you'd be stuck in the door frame. I don't know if that was fixed or not. But a workaround was to jump off the side when he was coming up the stairs before he could do his special backhand ability.

    A lot of running down the stairs to attack Mannimarco and then sprint back up to the top to drop aggro from his friends, regen magicka and heal and then run back down. It worked really well then but I haven't tried this tactic on live. It might still work.
    Edited by Tabbycat on August 6, 2014 12:41PM
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  • IKilled007
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    In the MUD I used to play there were a ton of blind players. Since it was all text they had it read to them via a program, but this text in combat scrolled very very fast and many were still able to be competitive in pvp. They just adapted by using systems for the mud client that replaced or blocked a lot of the flavor text.

    WTF... Holy hell that would be hard to do. How is that even possible? Competitive in PvP while needing text-to-speech for combat? I can't even fathom that. It would have to tell you when you're targeting someone, what their range is, what direction they're moving (if any)... You'd need some kind of auto-targeting too, no?

    Edited by IKilled007 on August 6, 2014 12:46PM
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  • Badh0rse
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    I use a Razer Naga and I have a layout just for eating. I have my movement buttons and my abilities all on the 12 side buttons. It's a little wonky but I can eat pizza with my left hand and play with my right!
  • Logan9a
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    rotiferuk wrote: »

    There is an eight way foot controller available.

    "Stinkyboard is unlike anything else out there. It is the revolutionary next step in game controller technology. Patented Return to Neutral (R2N) technology allows for lightning-quick, precise control, while keeping your foot in a relaxed, natural position. More functionality. Less fatigue."

    http://stinkyboard.com/stinkyboard/

    Well holy crap.

    That would be really interesting to use for movement and such.

    Wow.

  • EinionYrth
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    Badh0rse wrote: »
    I use a Razer Naga and I have a layout just for eating. I have my movement buttons and my abilities all on the 12 side buttons. It's a little wonky but I can eat pizza with my left hand and play with my right!

    You must have the fittest right thumb on the planet.
  • theyancey
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    theyancey wrote: »
    As an aside, please contact customer support via phone. Like all companies, Zenimax is required to abide by the ADA laws that require that they make their premises and products, in this case virtual, accessible to all regardless of disability. ZOS can easily abide by this in several easy ways from buffing your toon to having a GM assist you in the quest. If the progressive history of Zenimax and ZOS is any indication they will be happy to make this happen for you.

    Amazing how someone actually tried to take sony to court over it and failed. Stern v. Sony Corp., No. 09-cv-7710, slip op. at *4 (C.D.Cal. Feb. 8, 2010)
    So where did you get the brilliant idea that the ADA required video game companies to do anything as you suggested?

    In this decision SCOTUS upheld the ADA requirements that forced the PGA to allow Tracey Martin to use a cart while all other players were forced to walk. PGA Tour, Inc. v. Martin, 532 U.S. 661 (2001).

  • ruff82
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    theyancey wrote: »
    theyancey wrote: »
    As an aside, please contact customer support via phone. Like all companies, Zenimax is required to abide by the ADA laws that require that they make their premises and products, in this case virtual, accessible to all regardless of disability. ZOS can easily abide by this in several easy ways from buffing your toon to having a GM assist you in the quest. If the progressive history of Zenimax and ZOS is any indication they will be happy to make this happen for you.

    Amazing how someone actually tried to take sony to court over it and failed. Stern v. Sony Corp., No. 09-cv-7710, slip op. at *4 (C.D.Cal. Feb. 8, 2010)
    So where did you get the brilliant idea that the ADA required video game companies to do anything as you suggested?

    In this decision SCOTUS upheld the ADA requirements that forced the PGA to allow Tracey Martin to use a cart while all other players were forced to walk. PGA Tour, Inc. v. Martin, 532 U.S. 661 (2001).

    Have you even read the court decision theyancey? I urge you to do so at http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/Stern-v-Sony_MTD_order.pdf

    There is a huge difference between a physical locality, such as in the PGA case, and the "virtual" world. Physical disabilities do not apply to the "virtual" world like they do the physical one. For instance, a blind person cannot sue an online game manufacturer because they can't play the games just like they cannot file a lawsuit against a bookstore simply because said bookstore does not sell books in braille (as indicated by the justices in the decision in the above link) . Disabilities cause limitation on an individual's abilities - hence the name DISability!

    Please, in the future, if you are going to try to use a court case to support your theory on something, make sure you are comparing Apples to Apples instead of Apples to Elephants!
    Edited by ruff82 on August 6, 2014 2:21PM
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    IKilled007 wrote: »
    In the MUD I used to play there were a ton of blind players. Since it was all text they had it read to them via a program, but this text in combat scrolled very very fast and many were still able to be competitive in pvp. They just adapted by using systems for the mud client that replaced or blocked a lot of the flavor text.

    WTF... Holy hell that would be hard to do. How is that even possible? Competitive in PvP while needing text-to-speech for combat? I can't even fathom that. It would have to tell you when you're targeting someone, what their range is, what direction they're moving (if any)... You'd need some kind of auto-targeting too, no?

    this was a MUD, so there weren't visuals, and you can still type if you are blind if you have knowledge of where the keys are.

    Usually you have an alias to target someone so say "t" is the alias

    t pvpnoob

    %1=target

    then an alias for your actual attack say st

    st

    strike @target (or something like that, I forget what the variable designation was, it might just have been the word.)

    the combat system was so complex you either had to know basic coding or buy a system from someone who did. And of course it was pay to win.

    I spent thousands on that game, and I am more than a little embarrassed to admit it.
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  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    IKilled007 wrote: »
    In the MUD I used to play there were a ton of blind players. Since it was all text they had it read to them via a program, but this text in combat scrolled very very fast and many were still able to be competitive in pvp. They just adapted by using systems for the mud client that replaced or blocked a lot of the flavor text.

    WTF... Holy hell that would be hard to do. How is that even possible? Competitive in PvP while needing text-to-speech for combat? I can't even fathom that. It would have to tell you when you're targeting someone, what their range is, what direction they're moving (if any)... You'd need some kind of auto-targeting too, no?

    this was a MUD, so there weren't visuals, and you can still type if you are blind if you have knowledge of where the keys are.

    Usually you have an alias to target someone so say "t" is the alias

    t pvpnoob

    %1=target

    then an alias for your actual attack say st

    st

    strike @target (or something like that, I forget what the variable designation was, it might just have been the word.)

    the combat system was so complex you either had to know basic coding or buy a system from someone who did. And of course it was pay to win.

    I spent thousands on that game, and I am more than a little embarrassed to admit it.

    edit: also, for movement, you are moving from room to room. there are directions that can exist, n, s, e ,w, in, out, up, down, etc. So you just bind buttons for that.

    I used the numpad and I could move fast enough that I generally would get stalled by a mechanic in the game that would slow you down if you moved too fast.

    It would be the building of the system for the user that would be problematic, but there was a whole clan dedicated to blind players.
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  • Auric_ESO
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    Letting a person use a cart and swinging thier club for them is too far different things. If the person saying that the Ada extends to video games then I don't know what to say. In some cases it's impossible. A blind person want to play cod multiplayer. What systems are you going to have to build in in order to comply. I have no idea. Doesn't seem possible. I'm all for helping people out when one can but enforcing compliance where it's basically not possible is stupid and an example of where our government is failing us.
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  • NorthernFury
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    ruff82 wrote: »
    theyancey wrote: »
    theyancey wrote: »
    As an aside, please contact customer support via phone. Like all companies, Zenimax is required to abide by the ADA laws that require that they make their premises and products, in this case virtual, accessible to all regardless of disability. ZOS can easily abide by this in several easy ways from buffing your toon to having a GM assist you in the quest. If the progressive history of Zenimax and ZOS is any indication they will be happy to make this happen for you.

    Amazing how someone actually tried to take sony to court over it and failed. Stern v. Sony Corp., No. 09-cv-7710, slip op. at *4 (C.D.Cal. Feb. 8, 2010)
    So where did you get the brilliant idea that the ADA required video game companies to do anything as you suggested?

    In this decision SCOTUS upheld the ADA requirements that forced the PGA to allow Tracey Martin to use a cart while all other players were forced to walk. PGA Tour, Inc. v. Martin, 532 U.S. 661 (2001).

    Have you even read the court decision theyancey? I urge you to do so at http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/Stern-v-Sony_MTD_order.pdf

    There is a huge difference between a physical locality, such as in the PGA case, and the "virtual" world. Physical disabilities do not apply to the "virtual" world like they do the physical one. For instance, a blind person cannot sue an online game manufacturer because they can't play the games just like they cannot file a lawsuit against a bookstore simply because said bookstore does not sell books in braille (as indicated by the justices in the decision in the above link) . Disabilities cause limitation on an individual's abilities - hence the name DISability!

    Please, in the future, if you are going to try to use a court case to support your theory on something, make sure you are comparing Apples to Apples instead of Apples to Elephants!

    Seems like every motions hearing I have ever been to there has been at least one 'apples to elephants' argument presented....lol!

    Nature of the game, I guess.

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  • Thralgaf
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    Ok, I took it down. I will only say that I tend to expect the worst on internet threads.
    Edited by Thralgaf on August 6, 2014 3:20PM
  • ruff82
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    Seems like every motions hearing I have ever been to there has been at least one 'apples to elephants' argument presented....lol!

    Nature of the game, I guess.

    LoL Sorry, best analogy I know to show the absurdity of the individual's comparison / argument!
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