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Finally some information on subscription numbers?
david271749
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Superdata says that Elder Scrolls Online has a subscriber base of 772,374 while WildStar is seeing "four to five times" as many concurrent users as it saw during open beta. Superdata's information is purportedly "pulled directly from publishers and developers."
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What do you guys think of this number? How about the source?
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What do you guys think of this number? How about the source?
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✭✭why people always compare eso with wildstar is beyond me
agreed wildstar looks like it heavily caters to people who love cartoonsPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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Of course it is.david271749 wrote: »Superdata's information is purportedly "pulled directly from publishers and developers."
Given these numbers are closely guarded secrets by any company that isn't forced to divulge them as part of the regulatory filings, do you really think some jumped-up 'analytics' company will get their hands on their data.
There is no comparison in the OP, I think you need to read it again to understand it.why people always compare eso with wildstar is beyond me2 -
Csub✭✭✭✭✭Yep, no comparison but I still wonder how many people were playing WS beta since I read everywhere and also heard from some friends that people are literally begging for merges as most servers are almost empty, so if this is 4-5x as much, it still does not seem enough. Quite often they can't get 40 people together for a raid.Edited by Csub on August 1, 2014 8:04AM"The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn3 -
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I don't know about the source, but the number is very good. I think it will grow with time, the game is getting better.david271749 wrote: »What do you guys think of this number? How about the source?
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Sallakat✭✭✭If they keep up the good work steadily, I'm sure the numbers will go up to some extent, but I'm sure this will always still be smaller than the copy-paste type of WoW clones that people feel more comfortable with. Also the 'raid' content is more compelling to players in the typical MMOs which might never change in ESO the way it is now.
When it comes to Wildstar, I'd rather play WoW than WS tbh :P I just can't get my head wrapped around the telegraph combat style, it feels so unnecessary even when you get used to it.Rebuilt - Aldmeri Dominion
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Not being able tomput up 40 people for raid is always difficult even if game has 10 mil players :-) so u cant conclude anything on basis of that fact. If eso has 750 k subs game is on safe side.Yep, no comparison but I still wonder how many people were playing WS beta since I read everywhere and also heard from some friends that people are literally begging for merges as most servers are almost empty, so if this is 4-5x as much, it still does not seem enough. Quite often they can't get 40 people together for a raid.
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✭✭✭✭Actually, it's not from another source. Every single article stating this 'number' cites "A report published by SuperData Research", so I'd take it with a block of salt.POST EQVITEM SEDET ATRA CVRA
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Csub✭✭✭✭✭tino.antoninieb17_ESO wrote: »
Not being able tomput up 40 people for raid is always difficult even if game has 10 mil players :-) so u cant conclude anything on basis of that fact. If eso has 750 k subs game is on safe side.Yep, no comparison but I still wonder how many people were playing WS beta since I read everywhere and also heard from some friends that people are literally begging for merges as most servers are almost empty, so if this is 4-5x as much, it still does not seem enough. Quite often they can't get 40 people together for a raid.
I mentioned that because that game is full of hate towards casuals and not-too-hardcore people and they were mocking others how that game will triumph. It might still do, of course but some servers are so empty, even 20 people raids are hard to get people for."The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn4 -
david271749✭✭✭✭✭Actually, it's not from another source. Every single article stating this 'number' cites "A report published by SuperData Research", so I'd take it with a block of salt.
I see...Sorry for not reading it through. I clicked on the source and saw a different site. I like that magic 8 ball though. Thanks again.Edited by david271749 on August 1, 2014 8:54AM2 -
Adrastes✭✭✭i would never play game that looks as much garbage as wildstar even if the gameplay would be ok.2
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✭✭Actually, it's not from another source. Every single article stating this 'number' cites "A report published by SuperData Research", so I'd take it with a block of salt.
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dimmanxak✭✭✭I don't care about amount of subscribers but if this number
will decrease then we're about to F2P. And that's it. I don't want free2play in any case.Edited by dimmanxak on August 1, 2014 9:07AMDmitry3 -
iaintoff✭✭✭Yep, no comparison but I still wonder how many people were playing WS beta since I read everywhere and also heard from some friends that people are literally begging for merges as most servers are almost empty, so if this is 4-5x as much, it still does not seem enough. Quite often they can't get 40 people together for a raid.
This is tru, on eu side if you don't play hazak pvp server then don't bother rolling alts.
Pound for pound on a comparison population wise between the two, I'd say eso has it least eu side.
Consider also on wildstar there is only 2 factions and if you play dominion then you are screwed pop wise regardless of server e.u.
Eso on the other hand has three factions and I have never heard a whine about one side having pop issues over the other. Obviously you don't want to be banana or smurf tho so....2 -
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✭tino.antoninieb17_ESO wrote: »
Not being able tomput up 40 people for raid is always difficult even if game has 10 mil players :-) so u cant conclude anything on basis of that fact. If eso has 750 k subs game is on safe side.Yep, no comparison but I still wonder how many people were playing WS beta since I read everywhere and also heard from some friends that people are literally begging for merges as most servers are almost empty, so if this is 4-5x as much, it still does not seem enough. Quite often they can't get 40 people together for a raid.
actually, in EQ the raid guilds I was in regularly summoned up 54 people. Very rarely boxes because they were mostly useless.
This is EQ< which is barely running above maintenance mode, so 40 people for a raid in WS should be cake, unless they have like 30 servers.
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✭by the way you are 2 weeks late .http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/120698/775-000-subs/p1Restoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!3 -
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I thought the same when I viewed the game trailer. It really did look like Saturday morning cartoons. ESO may have it's issues, but I would say their graphics are superb.
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✭yes 772K * subscription =
* money money money,
* must be funny,
* in the rich man's world.
But to be honest, I don't think you should take these numbers too seriously and wait for an official announcement.
Meanwhile, you can do something like... play the game !Edited by Sotha_Sil on August 1, 2014 1:49PMRestoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!1 -
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✭✭✭✭Anything over 350k-400k subscribers and the game is doing awesome. Hell, I'd consider anything over 250k very successful.Daggerfall Covenant
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rsciw✭✭✭Even with 250k subs it'd be $3.75 million (based on $15 / month, not counting in multi-month discounts) coming in monthly, so if the number above is accurate, that's quite a good funding. Now just wish they'd use it to improve their code a bit especially around Cyro heavy PvP
With over 700k subs (if the number's accurate of course) I don't see this game going F2P, thankfully, and hope it stays that way
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✭✭✭✭✭I have not played Wildstar, but I have watched some videos of the game being played. I don't see the appeal myself. And, I am not talking about the goofy cartoon graphics either.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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✭I dont trust it at all.
I will believe it when zen give the numbers and make it official."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Lumomancer✭✭✭I doubt we will get the official numbers anytime soon.
Not that it matters much. ESO is a niche game, and that's a good thing IMO. Where games like Wildstar and World of Warcraft must dumb themselves down considerably to widen their appeal to as many people as possible, Zenimax has the luxury of just making a good game the way they want to make it. As long as they have a profit coming in (which means that people are playing the game), we're on the right track.
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DominusPax✭✭Numbers will be released when the console versions come out if the sales are legitimately good. If not, you won't hear a peep. I love this game, but there are some things about it in its current state that need to change soon and I am surprised they haven't been fixed already. Not getting mail immediately after a purchase is pretty poor. I could go on and on, but I could also go on and on about the great things about this game. That doesn't change the fact that there are some seriously bad components to this game as well though.0 -
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✭DominusPax wrote: »Numbers will be released when the console versions come out if the sales are legitimately good. If not, you won't hear a peep. I love this game, but there are some things about it in its current state that need to change soon and I am surprised they haven't been fixed already. Not getting mail immediately after a purchase is pretty poor. I could go on and on, but I could also go on and on about the great things about this game. That doesn't change the fact that there are some seriously bad components to this game as well though.
this doesn't change the state of things, but if you /reloadui you will usually receive the mail.
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