txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

OP , you assume zen gives a damm.

If there is one thing the thread about the dog proved , is that they dont.

Only small thing i get from all this , is that now it takes me less than 5 minutes to convice someone im talking about the game to give up buying.

Yes, we had that discussion on the other thread and am wondering if you will be canceling your sub since you aren't interested in getting your friends to join.

Pfff , if i would cancel my sub because i made my friends avoid the game , i would have to go back in time to the first month. 4 friends of mine wondered about this , all 4 i made give up and to this day if they ask , the answer remains the same , those 4 i trust wont be joining heh.

The people i refer to today i would not call friends , more like people i know and that i talk with.

The reason i keep my sub , is because i very rarely return to MMO once i leave it , hell i think only once i did this of all the MMOs i played (which is a big list) , so before i quit ESO , im making sure i gave it the chances.

These programs also keep you subbed, even when you don't play much any more. They're smart business.

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

OP , you assume zen gives a damm.

If there is one thing the thread about the dog proved , is that they dont.

Only small thing i get from all this , is that now it takes me less than 5 minutes to convice someone im talking about the game to give up buying.

Yes, we had that discussion on the other thread and am wondering if you will be canceling your sub since you aren't interested in getting your friends to join.

Pfff , if i would cancel my sub because i made my friends avoid the game , i would have to go back in time to the first month. 4 friends of mine wondered about this , all 4 i made give up and to this day if they ask , the answer remains the same , those 4 i trust wont be joining heh.

The people i refer to today i would not call friends , more like people i know and that i talk with.

The reason i keep my sub , is because i very rarely return to MMO once i leave it , hell i think only once i did this of all the MMOs i played (which is a big list) , so before i quit ESO , im making sure i gave it the chances.

I think it's more that you enjoy being unhappy and and making others unhappy. If you don't like a game to the point where you trash it to others, you aren't going to be of a mind that will have a positive effect on the community and really shouldn't play.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

OP , you assume zen gives a damm.

If there is one thing the thread about the dog proved , is that they dont.

Only small thing i get from all this , is that now it takes me less than 5 minutes to convice someone im talking about the game to give up buying.

Yes, we had that discussion on the other thread and am wondering if you will be canceling your sub since you aren't interested in getting your friends to join.

Pfff , if i would cancel my sub because i made my friends avoid the game , i would have to go back in time to the first month. 4 friends of mine wondered about this , all 4 i made give up and to this day if they ask , the answer remains the same , those 4 i trust wont be joining heh.

The people i refer to today i would not call friends , more like people i know and that i talk with.

The reason i keep my sub , is because i very rarely return to MMO once i leave it , hell i think only once i did this of all the MMOs i played (which is a big list) , so before i quit ESO , im making sure i gave it the chances.

I think it's more that you enjoy being unhappy and and making others unhappy. If you don't like a game to the point where you trash it to others, you aren't going to be of a mind that will have a positive effect on the community and really shouldn't play.

That maybe so, still , that is a call for me to make and i dont want to quit yet.

Unfortunately , playing only if i have a positive effect on the community is not one of my concerns.

If i dont like the direction zen takes things , i will voice it , if it has a negative effect , so be it.

txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

OP , you assume zen gives a damm.

If there is one thing the thread about the dog proved , is that they dont.

Only small thing i get from all this , is that now it takes me less than 5 minutes to convice someone im talking about the game to give up buying.

Yes, we had that discussion on the other thread and am wondering if you will be canceling your sub since you aren't interested in getting your friends to join.

Pfff , if i would cancel my sub because i made my friends avoid the game , i would have to go back in time to the first month. 4 friends of mine wondered about this , all 4 i made give up and to this day if they ask , the answer remains the same , those 4 i trust wont be joining heh.

The people i refer to today i would not call friends , more like people i know and that i talk with.

The reason i keep my sub , is because i very rarely return to MMO once i leave it , hell i think only once i did this of all the MMOs i played (which is a big list) , so before i quit ESO , im making sure i gave it the chances.

I think it's more that you enjoy being unhappy and and making others unhappy. If you don't like a game to the point where you trash it to others, you aren't going to be of a mind that will have a positive effect on the community and really shouldn't play.

That maybe so, still , that is a call for me to make and i dont want to quit yet.

Unfortunately , playing only if i have a positive effect on the community is not one of my concerns.

If i dont like the direction zen takes things , i will voice it , if it has a negative effect , so be it.

Have you ever said anything positive about the game? Just curious.

Heh , if i could not see anything positive about this game mate , then i would not be playing it. Despite what some may think , i do have better things to do than spend time on a game i hold no interest in.

If anything , it is because i see what it could be if they had a little more touch , that pisses me the most.

The dog issue could have been avoided , they could take more time when testing the patches to avoid adding more bugs than fixes , which makes their test appear irrelevant , they could spend more time making sure the patch notes actually tell each change and do not make appear like they lack internal communication...

So many details they fail at , one after another.

There are ofc bigger issues , but if they did not disappoint so much in the details , perhaps their players would be more forgiving.

I just want a flippin dog. Brown blue red yellow Idgaf. Just give doge pls

IF ( that's a big 'if' )... IF they do a loyalty program it should be something useful. Like an extra 5 bank slots or bag slots per character. Something of (virtual) value. Maybe be a 3, 6, 9 months and a year, and every 6 months thereafter, for everyone who stays subbed that long. Under this proposal, if you stay subbed for a year straight you'll have an extra 20 bank slots, that's a pretty heft sum of gold coins saved right there. On the 1 year, a vanity pet or something to show everyone else your loyalty to ESO.

Honestly, I'd like them to have a pet / trinket / trophy bag that doesn't count against bank or bag slot count first, more pets second.

rynth wrote: »

grow up!

You give loyalty for loyalties sake, not because you act like some cheap person that needs to have some give you something to keep you loyal. again grow up

Loyalty should be earned, especially when a company is operating a subscription model in an environment that has become quite hostile to that model.

Do I still believe in the subscription model? Yes I do. But companies cannot take subscribers for granted anymore, they just don't get that option in 2014. Whether you like or not, whether I like it or not, it doesn't matter because B2P, F2P and Freemium has changed the way subscriptions are perceived.

Companies doing things to let their players know they value them for continuing a subscription at a time that that payment model has lost the popularity it once had makes sense, it says "Hey, this is why we're better than B2P/F2P/Freemium."

A lot of people did not believe that ESO would release with this payment model and a great many still believe that, within the next few months, it will go F2P.

ZOS has a great IP here, a fairly solid game and devs with a lot of experience but it cannot just rely on those things because there are other games that had all those things and still had start offering alternative payment models.

Loyalty programs are more a f2p thing, like a monthly stipend if you stay subbed. Subscription games generally don't need them.

This game does need a better way to store pets though.

dharbert wrote: »

I'm all for a loyalty program. Star Wars Galaxies is one of the games that did it right.

i never got that solar farm to make much moneh :<

Aortick wrote: »

Here is a Revolutionary Game Idea............Why not just play the game and have some Fun? The Reward for playing a game should be Fun and Enjoyment. Instead some of you are wanting the Developers of Games to Reward you for playing their game with Materialistic items, rather than the game itself.



[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Inappropriate Content and Language]

some people ARE materialistic, mostly the rich and well, they like free bonuses and will happly wastewhatever they can to get them, those who play long term will see free gifts as minor bandages to cover up their opinion on a bad patch so it can be useful for attracting people.

the more the merrier

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

OP , you assume zen gives a damm.

If there is one thing the thread about the dog proved , is that they dont.

Only small thing i get from all this , is that now it takes me less than 5 minutes to convice someone im talking about the game to give up buying.

Yes, we had that discussion on the other thread and am wondering if you will be canceling your sub since you aren't interested in getting your friends to join.

Pfff , if i would cancel my sub because i made my friends avoid the game , i would have to go back in time to the first month. 4 friends of mine wondered about this , all 4 i made give up and to this day if they ask , the answer remains the same , those 4 i trust wont be joining heh.

The people i refer to today i would not call friends , more like people i know and that i talk with.

The reason i keep my sub , is because i very rarely return to MMO once i leave it , hell i think only once i did this of all the MMOs i played (which is a big list) , so before i quit ESO , im making sure i gave it the chances.

I think it's more that you enjoy being unhappy and and making others unhappy. If you don't like a game to the point where you trash it to others, you aren't going to be of a mind that will have a positive effect on the community and really shouldn't play.

That maybe so, still , that is a call for me to make and i dont want to quit yet.

Unfortunately , playing only if i have a positive effect on the community is not one of my concerns.

If i dont like the direction zen takes things , i will voice it , if it has a negative effect , so be it.

you really would be better off playing a single player game if you intend to only detract from other peoples' happiness and not try to improve the game for everyone.

It's just selfishness and it drags down the community with you.

Again , my call , but i will take your advise into consideration thank you.

What i intend to do , is speak my mind about the game , that is all.

If it is positive or negative , so be it , if it adds or takes from the overall happiness of the other players , so be it.

My general concept is selfish indeed , i have no intention of changing it either , still ,i do support some ideas that add to the whole concept of the community.

When i complain about the dog for example , you may see being something selfish , it is not , i see it like a big issue for all the players like who keep paying month after month that zen seems to have decided to make content for only new players.

Personally , like i said in another thread , i would probably never even use the dog myself even.

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

OP , you assume zen gives a damm.

If there is one thing the thread about the dog proved , is that they dont.

Only small thing i get from all this , is that now it takes me less than 5 minutes to convice someone im talking about the game to give up buying.

Yes, we had that discussion on the other thread and am wondering if you will be canceling your sub since you aren't interested in getting your friends to join.

Pfff , if i would cancel my sub because i made my friends avoid the game , i would have to go back in time to the first month. 4 friends of mine wondered about this , all 4 i made give up and to this day if they ask , the answer remains the same , those 4 i trust wont be joining heh.

The people i refer to today i would not call friends , more like people i know and that i talk with.

The reason i keep my sub , is because i very rarely return to MMO once i leave it , hell i think only once i did this of all the MMOs i played (which is a big list) , so before i quit ESO , im making sure i gave it the chances.

I think it's more that you enjoy being unhappy and and making others unhappy. If you don't like a game to the point where you trash it to others, you aren't going to be of a mind that will have a positive effect on the community and really shouldn't play.

That maybe so, still , that is a call for me to make and i dont want to quit yet.

Unfortunately , playing only if i have a positive effect on the community is not one of my concerns.

If i dont like the direction zen takes things , i will voice it , if it has a negative effect , so be it.

you really would be better off playing a single player game if you intend to only detract from other peoples' happiness and not try to improve the game for everyone.

It's just selfishness and it drags down the community with you.

Again , my call , but i will take your advise into consideration thank you.

What i intend to do , is speak my mind about the game , that is all.

If it is positive or negative , so be it , if it adds or takes from the overall happiness of the other players , so be it.

My general concept is selfish indeed , i have no intention of changing it either , still ,i do support some ideas that add to the whole concept of the community.

When i complain about the dog for example , you may see being something selfish , it is not , i see it like a big issue for all the players like who keep paying month after month that zen seems to have decided to make content for only new players.

Personally , like i said in another thread , i would probably never even use the dog myself even.

If it really was a bigger issue you would not also be expressing the selfish sentiments that come along with it.

Selfishness is a terrible trait, and very problematic in society. Not being taught to share as a child can ultimately lead to some very bad and criminal behavior.

TBH, that fact that you are completely unashamed of it says volumes about your upbringing.

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

txfeinbergsub17_ESO wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

OP , you assume zen gives a damm.

If there is one thing the thread about the dog proved , is that they dont.

Only small thing i get from all this , is that now it takes me less than 5 minutes to convice someone im talking about the game to give up buying.

Yes, we had that discussion on the other thread and am wondering if you will be canceling your sub since you aren't interested in getting your friends to join.

Pfff , if i would cancel my sub because i made my friends avoid the game , i would have to go back in time to the first month. 4 friends of mine wondered about this , all 4 i made give up and to this day if they ask , the answer remains the same , those 4 i trust wont be joining heh.

The people i refer to today i would not call friends , more like people i know and that i talk with.

The reason i keep my sub , is because i very rarely return to MMO once i leave it , hell i think only once i did this of all the MMOs i played (which is a big list) , so before i quit ESO , im making sure i gave it the chances.

I think it's more that you enjoy being unhappy and and making others unhappy. If you don't like a game to the point where you trash it to others, you aren't going to be of a mind that will have a positive effect on the community and really shouldn't play.

That maybe so, still , that is a call for me to make and i dont want to quit yet.

Unfortunately , playing only if i have a positive effect on the community is not one of my concerns.

If i dont like the direction zen takes things , i will voice it , if it has a negative effect , so be it.

you really would be better off playing a single player game if you intend to only detract from other peoples' happiness and not try to improve the game for everyone.

It's just selfishness and it drags down the community with you.

Again , my call , but i will take your advise into consideration thank you.

What i intend to do , is speak my mind about the game , that is all.

If it is positive or negative , so be it , if it adds or takes from the overall happiness of the other players , so be it.

My general concept is selfish indeed , i have no intention of changing it either , still ,i do support some ideas that add to the whole concept of the community.

When i complain about the dog for example , you may see being something selfish , it is not , i see it like a big issue for all the players like who keep paying month after month that zen seems to have decided to make content for only new players.

Personally , like i said in another thread , i would probably never even use the dog myself even.

If it really was a bigger issue you would not also be expressing the selfish sentiments that come along with it.

Selfishness is a terrible trait, and very problematic in society. Not being taught to share as a child can ultimately lead to some very bad and criminal behavior.

TBH, that fact that you are completely unashamed of it says volumes about your upbringing.

Mate , like it or not , here im and here i will stay until the time comes when i dont feel like it , that simple.

And i will remain on the negative side of things, i do believe the best way to make a company understand is costing them money and creating bad PR , reason i do what i do.

Who knows , maybe if this story actually gets back to the devs a few times in the future by luck , they will even think twice before doing this crap a second time heh.

Right and I don't intend to move you. I really can't. I'm just commenting on the unfortunate circumstances that led you to this line of thinking.

My suspicion is you tend to hang around where not wanted out of sheer spite. I doubt you would be positive about any game you play.