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775,000 Subs
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Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Dekkameron wrote: »Not bad.
Here's a chart of similar MMOs sub numbers.
This chart is really interesting.
Some games launched with large numbers, then plummeted
others launched with mediocre numbers, and climbed
can only really look to the way forward to find out if ESO is climbing or falling."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
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KhajitFurTrader✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This thread is another fine example of what the fable of the Three Blind Men and the Elephant is really about. ^_^Edited by KhajitFurTrader on July 18, 2014 4:21PM1 -
AreoHotah✭✭✭✭That's good right??Hota'h, Dual-wield/bow full medium armor NB Khajiit from day 1.
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Sindala✭✭✭✭✭Wikipedia for information.....lolBeing First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.0 -
Lord_Draevan✭✭✭✭✭
✭At any rate, without numbers as to how many people were playing in the first month, it's hard to say if this number is good or bad. But regardless of whether more or less are playing, it's too early to use this 775,000 number as proof of the game's failure or success. Maybe it'll go up, maybe it'll go down. We'll see.Edited by Lord_Draevan on July 18, 2014 4:36PMI'm a man of few words. Any questions?NA/PC server1 -
daneyulebub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wikipedia for information.....lol
Beats where you seem to have gotten your numbers from. (Spoiler: You made them up.)
The Wikipedia quote cited its sources. Do you contend they were incorrect, or do you just like typing "lol" in lieu of having anything to substantiate your statements?
Hey, I can do that too--though in this case, your preceding posts offer ample confirmation that the following is true:
"Sindala for information....lol"
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Tannakaobi✭✭✭✭✭Lol, you can all word it how you want. For a brand new AAA MMO only 3 months old....it's bad.
Don't be so naive, mmo's grow, what were the figures for wow in month three? Swtor? Linage?
If these figures are correct you can bet that ZOS are delighted with the progress and will no doubt double their effort to get even more.
With the console launch around the corner, steam just out, things look good.
This comment belief that mmo's just pop out and draw millions of players instantly is ridiculous.
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Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tannakaobi wrote: »Lol, you can all word it how you want. For a brand new AAA MMO only 3 months old....it's bad.
Don't be so naive, mmo's grow, what were the figures for wow in month three? Swtor? Linage?
If these figures are correct you can bet that ZOS are delighted with the progress and will no doubt double their effort to get even more.
With the console launch around the corner, steam just out, things look good.
This comment belief that mmo's just pop out and draw millions of players instantly is ridiculous.
The real issue with this post is not even that , the numbers are good.
But they are as real as santa to me.
I wil believe it when zen says it."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Xexpo✭✭✭✭✭pointless made up number is pointless made up numberKiki Dickson ~~~ Dixmanian Devil ~~~ Cornelius Buckshank Jr.
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vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Tannakaobi wrote: »Lol, you can all word it how you want. For a brand new AAA MMO only 3 months old....it's bad.
Don't be so naive, mmo's grow, what were the figures for wow in month three? Swtor? Linage?
If these figures are correct you can bet that ZOS are delighted with the progress and will no doubt double their effort to get even more.
With the console launch around the corner, steam just out, things look good.
This comment belief that mmo's just pop out and draw millions of players instantly is ridiculous.
The real issue with this post is not even that , the numbers are good.
But they are as real as santa to me.
I wil believe it when zen says it.
While i am hopeful, they seem good to me for a game that seemed to generate so much bad noise. Im in the same boat. And i think we will be waiting a
Very long time for that.Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on July 18, 2014 4:45PM2 -
daneyulebub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »
The real issue with this post is not even that , the numbers are good.
But they are as real as santa to me.
I wil believe it when zen says it.
Um, what's this you're implying about Santa?????????
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Food4Thought✭✭✭Some bench marks I remember ...
EVE had about 250k subscribers on average for years and considered itself a major success. I don't know where they stand these days on numbers.
SWG had roughly 500k subscribers its first month ... and the game was all but unplayable due to LAG from being over capacity.
WoW had 1 million subscribers its first month (and was also unplayable due to lag issues). And reach over 12 million. These days nobody has accurate figures as any numbers you find are at least 6 months out of date. They are thought to have somewhere between 6 -7 million subs. It is still considered the number one MMO of all time.
AOC had 750k subscribers the first month and thought itself a success. Two months later they couldn't even scrap up 320k subscribers and was viewed as a sinking ship.
Where does ESO stand? I have no idea as I haven't seen a reliable source with numbers. But considering the level of players I see in game at any given time I would be surprised if it is anywhere near 1 million. If I had to wager a guess I would say it is between 500k and 750k subs.
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Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »
The real issue with this post is not even that , the numbers are good.
But they are as real as santa to me.
I wil believe it when zen says it.
Um, what's this you're implying about Santa?????????
uhhhhhh , that santa , only appears during a certain time of the year , but this game is around all year around , we need number that show many months in a row not including only the one day of one month...
Yeah that is it
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daneyulebub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Food4Thought wrote: »
Where does ESO stand? I have no idea as I haven't seen a reliable source with numbers. But considering the level of players I see in game at any given time I would be surprised if it is anywhere near 1 million. If I had to wager a guess I would say it is between 500k and 750k subs.
I'm fine with the rest of your post, but this kind of estimation -- somehow extrapolating "the number of players you see in game" to estimate values that comprise a window ranging in the magnitude of hundreds of thousands -- is beyond meaningless.
I wouldn't make that wager--you'd be just as good putting your money on a roulette table with that kind of evidence.
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daneyulebub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »
uhhhhhh , that santa , only appears during a certain time of the year , but this game is around all year around , we need number that show many months in a row not including only the one day of one month...
Yeah that is it
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onlinegamer1✭✭✭✭✭
✭From the article:
A report published by SuperData Research (via GamesIndustry International) claims The Elder Scrolls Online had 772,374 subscribers in June.
Notice that it doesn't say "current subscribers". Just "subscribers", which could include canceled subs.
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mutharex✭✭✭✭✭Raptr (I know, I know..) seems to have 375K active users for TESO in June (Rapt comes with Catalyst CC today so a lot of Ati users have it installed without knowing).
Considering not everyone has it installed, that number in the article doesn't sound too off.
Question is, how many are now0 -
Tannakaobi✭✭✭✭✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Tannakaobi wrote: »Lol, you can all word it how you want. For a brand new AAA MMO only 3 months old....it's bad.
Don't be so naive, mmo's grow, what were the figures for wow in month three? Swtor? Linage?
If these figures are correct you can bet that ZOS are delighted with the progress and will no doubt double their effort to get even more.
With the console launch around the corner, steam just out, things look good.
This comment belief that mmo's just pop out and draw millions of players instantly is ridiculous.
The real issue with this post is not even that , the numbers are good.
But they are as real as santa to me.
I wil believe it when zen says it.
Yes indeed, but it is very doubtful that they would be less by any significant amount. So any way you look at it is good. If it was an out and out lie then it would be lower and the story would be much more negative.
My post was just based on the comment "For a brand new AAA MMO only 3 months old....it's bad" which is so far away from the truth.2 -
Orizuru✭✭✭If it's true, then that's actually quite a fantastic number. Especially considering how much ESO has gotten drenched in bad publicity.
I agree, if these figures are accurate than the game is doing well enough that there shouldn't be cause for concern about the game going far into the red financially that it would impact the players that are heavily invested into the game.
However, I would be curious to see how these number compare to the number of subs at launch and then again with numbers in 3 months and 6 months out from now.
I don't think the game has been bleeding subs, but I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of the subs have been lost since launch, and I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of what the game has right now is gone 3 months from now.
And didn't TOR have somewhere in the ballpark of 1.2 million subs during the 3-6 months post launch period?0 -
steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »
Edited to add - my maths looks totally screwy here. looks more like $135m which would be great.
Which puts a game literally a few months old behind SWTOR in revenue gain...
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✭✭✭If it's true, then that's actually quite a fantastic number. Especially considering how much ESO has gotten drenched in bad publicity.
I agree, if these figures are accurate than the game is doing well enough that there shouldn't be cause for concern about the game going far into the red financially that it would impact the players that are heavily invested into the game.
However, I would be curious to see how these number compare to the number of subs at launch and then again with numbers in 3 months and 6 months out from now.
I don't think the game has been bleeding subs, but I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of the subs have been lost since launch, and I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of what the game has right now is gone 3 months from now.
And didn't TOR have somewhere in the ballpark of 1.2 million subs during the 3-6 months post launch period?
Should be about 50% of the subs gone after the first 3 months or so. That's the usual trend.0 -
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✭✭✭Tannakaobi wrote: »Lol, you can all word it how you want. For a brand new AAA MMO only 3 months old....it's bad.
Don't be so naive, mmo's grow, what were the figures for wow in month three? Swtor? Linage?
If these figures are correct you can bet that ZOS are delighted with the progress and will no doubt double their effort to get even more.
With the console launch around the corner, steam just out, things look good.
This comment belief that mmo's just pop out and draw millions of players instantly is ridiculous.
Gotta agree here, things look bright overall.-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
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kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭onlinegamer1 wrote: »From the article:
A report published by SuperData Research (via GamesIndustry International) claims The Elder Scrolls Online had 772,374 subscribers in June.
Notice that it doesn't say "current subscribers". Just "subscribers", which could include canceled subs.
Cancled subs are not subscribers .. subcribers are people who are .. well ... um .. you know .. subscribed.3 -
Audigy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If the numbers are correct, then this is actually a very good amount of subs - not many MMOs have such high numbers.
Look at WOW, without ASIA it would tank to about 2-3 Million if not even less.6 -
snowmanflvb14_ESO✭✭✭✭Just think in a few months the consoles will be out and you have the new steam users as well. A game does not need to beat WoW to be a successMagic is impressive but now Minsc leads SWORDS FOR EVERYONE!!5
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vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭onlinegamer1 wrote: »From the article:
A report published by SuperData Research (via GamesIndustry International) claims The Elder Scrolls Online had 772,374 subscribers in June.
Notice that it doesn't say "current subscribers". Just "subscribers", which could include canceled subs.
Cancled subs are not subscribers .. subcribers are people who are .. well ... um .. you know .. subscribed.
Yes. But there is a difference in current subscribers at the end of june and total subscribers in all of june. I think that is the point they were trying to make.1 -
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