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Sai Sahan's beard envy.
Araflin
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I'm a semi-muscular man, a grandad, and I remember when Defender was the height of video-gaming. I really am enjoying ESO. However, despite aging the facial features, the posture and muscle definition of my characters just stays pert and youthful. Trust me - that doesn't happen! 
But the point of this post.. Sai Sahan's beard! Impressive, two-tone, beaded.. and not one of the options in character creation has anything like such impressive facial furniture! I was disappointed. He was an inspiration I found I could not realise (My own being very 'salt and pepper' and preferring a goatee style a la. Roger Delgado's / Anthony Ainley's portrayal of The Master in Doctor Who).
I understand there are clipping issues for both the above. However, if Dead or Alive could take so much time over "boob" physics and you took pains to make "older" characters possible - Could you, one day, see your way to modelling slumped frames, sagging skin, and magnificent facial topiary?
p.s. Why do Argonians have boobs? Why do Khajiit have only 2?
But the point of this post.. Sai Sahan's beard! Impressive, two-tone, beaded.. and not one of the options in character creation has anything like such impressive facial furniture! I was disappointed. He was an inspiration I found I could not realise (My own being very 'salt and pepper' and preferring a goatee style a la. Roger Delgado's / Anthony Ainley's portrayal of The Master in Doctor Who).
I understand there are clipping issues for both the above. However, if Dead or Alive could take so much time over "boob" physics and you took pains to make "older" characters possible - Could you, one day, see your way to modelling slumped frames, sagging skin, and magnificent facial topiary?
p.s. Why do Argonians have boobs? Why do Khajiit have only 2?
" Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"
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smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have often wondered why argonians have mammaries, haven't spent much time thinking about 6 boobied khajiits though.
Sai Sahan's beard is pretty impressive, whereas most beards in the game look like they are sculpted on from play-doh. Only the 9 o clock shadow ones seem to look at all nice.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.3 -
Lynx7386✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭haven't spent much time thinking about 6 boobied khajiits though.
Well that makes one of us...
PS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank12 -
AoEnwyr✭✭✭✭haven't spent much time thinking about 6 boobied khajiits though.
Well that makes one of us...
Yes, I too have pondered the boobed Khajiit. Two boobs is creepy in as much as it's obviously just there for the whole "much boob, wow cleavage" and anyone who is into that on cats might need a little "support". Six DD's though would probably make running an issue so I feel the solution should just be *** tassles on Khajiit.
Lizard boobs are even odder. My Argonian lass has the smallest I could make because I couldn't bring myself to stare at scaley tatas for the next several months.
Yet here is an epic beard post degenerating into boob talk. That's rather a surprise on the internet...
Anyway if I could grow Sai's beard, I'd wear nothing else. All the fashion houses combined have nothing on that baby!
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Chatoyancy✭✭✭Beyond the fact that all my characters are female and I personally don't need Sai Sahan's beard... yes! More customization options would be great.
I don't understand the existence of lizard boobs or the underwhelming number of cat boobs either.1 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭khajiit have two boobs because they are more humanoid and don't walk on four legs. Even if they did have six nips, they would not have enlarged mammaries, unless breast feeding, I guess. So really, your request for more boobies would lead to no pronounced ones.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.2 -
indytims_ESO✭✭✭✭Moar beard! Check!
Argonians and Khajit mammaries? Don't make sense -realistically-, but we aren't playing in a realistic world... I am pretty sure, though, that the devs simply took the 'easy' way out
boobz for argonian females so you could tell them apart from the males.
2 boobz only for Khatjit females because it was far easier to swipe the two-boob model and run with it, rather than going through the time-crunching process of creating 4/6/8/whatever boob models, plus all the armor skins to compensate.
Just my guesses, tho.
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✭✭✭Another option I'd like is King Joruun' epic hair! He has this bush of loose and braided long hair that I so want for my boys!RIP Atherton, my beautiful little gentle friend. I will miss you forever. Without you I am a hollow shell.2 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭indytims_ESO wrote: »Moar beard! Check!
Argonians and Khajit mammaries? Don't make sense -realistically-, but we aren't playing in a realistic world... I am pretty sure, though, that the devs simply took the 'easy' way out
boobz for argonian females so you could tell them apart from the males.
2 boobz only for Khatjit females because it was far easier to swipe the two-boob model and run with it, rather than going through the time-crunching process of creating 4/6/8/whatever boob models, plus all the armor skins to compensate.
Just my guesses, tho.
I'm pretty sure they decided that based on every other TES game out there. I doubt it came up ever in the development of this game.
Certainly wouldn't have been on my to do list.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.3 -
Evandus✭✭✭✭Originally I was going for a Sai Sahan manbeard myself on my main character. I feel your pain man.
Bowing out of the boob discussion though lol.2 -
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✭✭✭Asking why Argonians have boobs is like asking why Khajiit had beast legs in Morrowind.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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✭✭✭✭✭What bugs me is all the talk of lusty argonians, when khajiit seem, to me, to be far more lusty all things considered.PS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank2 -
Araflin✭✭✭@Evandus I respect that.
As for "lore" and previous games in TES @smeeprocketnub19_ESO I have to disagree. Morrowind had both Khajiit and Argonians with "reverse animal feet" so I'm sure anatomy came up in a conversation at design stage.
Further to the "Old" section of my original post - I notice Goblin "disguise" is rather stooped and contracted. I like it! So maybe not a HUGE leap to make the body age as well as the face after all." Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"1 -
Araflin✭✭✭Oh, and Argonian breasts only appeared since Oblivion according to TESWiki.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Argonian
Physiology chapter, 4th paragraph." Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"2 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭What bugs me is all the talk of lusty argonians, when khajiit seem, to me, to be far more lusty all things considered.
I've always seen the lusty argonian maid as a slave *** fantasy. Very disturbing and telling about Dunmer culture. Argonians there are mostly slaves, said maid is a servant, and you have the dominant dunmer male. It's dressed up as something simple, but it's much darker than that.
edit: hmm I never noticed the female argonians not being endowed. But keep in mind this game began development around oblivion's time so they probably just (very quickly) decided to go with what was the most recent.Edited by smeeprocketnub19_ESO on July 13, 2014 10:58PMDear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.2 -
Lynx7386✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I've always seen the lusty argonian maid as a slave *** fantasy. Very disturbing and telling about Dunmer culture. Argonians there are mostly slaves, said maid is a servant, and you have the dominant dunmer male. It's dressed up as something simple, but it's much darker than that.
The origin of the story is actually unknown. There's a book in ESO that describes the tale(s) of the lusty argonian maid, and how it's been a story passed down by bards for ages, always with a different setting but the same innuendos and the same argonian female. The story has different versions all across tamriel, so it probably didnt originate just in dunmer-ruled morrowind.Edited by Lynx7386 on July 13, 2014 11:18PMPS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank2 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've always seen the lusty argonian maid as a slave *** fantasy. Very disturbing and telling about Dunmer culture. Argonians there are mostly slaves, said maid is a servant, and you have the dominant dunmer male. It's dressed up as something simple, but it's much darker than that.
The origin of the story is actually unknown. There's a book in ESO that describes the tale(s) of the lusty argonian maid, and how it's been a story passed down by bards for ages, always with a different setting but the same innuendos and the same argonian female. The story has different versions all across tamriel, so it probably didnt originate just in dunmer-ruled morrowind.
That book is, I think, new to the lore. Even if the original story (though that book, iirc talks more about performances) wasn't that, I would argue the switch to dunmer/argonian has the implication of slave ***. At the very least, I would argue, Dunmer reading/performing it have that in the back of their minds.
When I first read that book, in morrowind, it impressed that upon me, at the least. So the setting may have changed the story for me.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.2 -
Araflin✭✭✭Sai Sahan's beard. Not the behaviour of a famous Agronian slattern." Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"2
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smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »I would argue the switch to dunmer/argonian has the implication of slave ***. At the very least, I would argue, Dunmer reading/performing it have that in the back of their minds.
When I first read that book, in morrowind, it impressed that upon me, at the least. So the setting may have changed the story for me.
"The Lusty Argonian Maid" in Morrowind was the work of Crassius Curio, an Imperial (and one rather infamous for his salacious "plays").
As for the beard... Yes! We're supposed to be the epic hero of Tamriel and we need hairstyles to match!
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✭Neutronium_Dragon wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »I would argue the switch to dunmer/argonian has the implication of slave ***. At the very least, I would argue, Dunmer reading/performing it have that in the back of their minds.
When I first read that book, in morrowind, it impressed that upon me, at the least. So the setting may have changed the story for me.
"The Lusty Argonian Maid" in Morrowind was the work of Crassius Curio, an Imperial (and one rather infamous for his salacious "plays").
As for the beard... Yes! We're supposed to be the epic hero of Tamriel and we need hairstyles to match!
god, Uncle Crassius, you know how disturbing that quest was not realizing he does that to men too (even then!) yea it's definitely slave *** if it was crassius.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.2 -
NorthernFury✭✭✭✭Sai Sahan is definetly Tamriel's version of 'The Most Interesting Man in The World".
"His beard alone has experienced more than a lesser man’s entire body"
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kinsmen die
all men are mortal.
Words of praise
will never perish
nor a noble name.
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arena25✭✭✭✭✭And by unfortunate territory...I think we all know what he's talking about, am I correct? *cue cricket sound and a empty room set* Anyone? Anyone?If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!1 -
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✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »I have often wondered why argonians have mammaries, haven't spent much time thinking about 6 boobied khajiits though.
Yeah, you say that but we know differently don't we.
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✭You don't choose the beard. The beard chooses you.PUG Life - the true test of your skill
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✭✭✭✭✭If they ever get around to adding a "beauty shop," or whatever you call it, to rework your character's look, perhaps they will add more beard and hair styles.-- @xaraan --
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