I used the "I have a different idea" because there is no "I have no idea"... I will decide once I have seen how it's implemented... face it, I have been bitten by the "Looks good on paper" bug way too often.

Rosveen wrote: »

Hoamaii wrote: »

Come on, ZoS, log on the Nexus, go to Skyrim (or Oblivion), Files, Categories, Armors, and sort your search results among the 1,500 files created by TES players by "most endorsed". Pick the Top 50. Or just Top 10.

I don't think this is such a good idea. Top lists in the armor category tend to favor certain... controversial style. XD

hehe Rosveen, turn off your "adult only" filter!..

Hoamaii wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Hoamaii wrote: »

Come on, ZoS, log on the Nexus, go to Skyrim (or Oblivion), Files, Categories, Armors, and sort your search results among the 1,500 files created by TES players by "most endorsed". Pick the Top 50. Or just Top 10.

I don't think this is such a good idea. Top lists in the armor category tend to favor certain... controversial style. XD

hehe Rosveen, turn off your "adult only" filter!..

Ha, I wish that had been my mistake. Alas, it was off.

Surinen wrote: »

Hoamaii wrote: »

hehe Rosveen, turn off your "adult only" filter!..

don't you dare corrupt her minde with the evil you bear in your words!

Misunderstanding much? He/she was trying to save me from these abominations stylish outfits.

Rosveen wrote: »

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Misunderstanding much? He/she was trying to save me from these abominations stylish outfits.

Yes, misunderstanding. I thought that he/she was speaking about the 'spoiler' window (these 'emoticons' things). I have completely forgotten about nexus' settings.

anyway, who knows! maybe I have just protected you from the unknown evil!

Justiciar Lord Surinen 'Maiden's Iron' - oh, it even sounds catchy

Love the limited polls based upon OP bias. I voted "I like it" because I haven't actually seen it yet or gotten hands on, and with out hands on first person any opinion made is utterly pointless and baseless.

Kraven wrote: »

Love the limited polls based upon OP bias. I voted "I like it" because I haven't actually seen it yet or gotten hands on, and with out hands on first person any opinion made is utterly pointless and baseless.

Well as some of you know I am a Dev, though I don't work for ESO. So let me tell you what the issue is here:

* These armor sets, you can tell by looking at them can only be dyed in 1 maybe 2 layers maximum. It is an obviously and exceedingly lacking dye system.

So those of you hoping to make your Shredder armor look more appealing... Your out of luck, as that armor is a 4 layer armor minimum.

* If I am incorrect in the above statements and the armors only have 1-2 layers (which that might be the case looking at the dweemer set....) Then that simply means that all the armor in ESO is some of the lowest quality designed armor in the entire MMO industry (Even WoW armor is 3-4 layers, and it's... ewww) and ESO should be ashamed for ever letting it out of the QC room.

Look I'm going to be honest ZOS, I know your working hard, I know you want to give players some of what they desire. but this half ass BS has to stop. Stop introducing what is obviously garbage half assed crap.

Wait, get it right, and give us some QUALITY product.

Trust me.. it will be worth it.

The dye system honestly may not be the issue, it may simply be that the Armor design quality is the real culprit as well. If the armor is not detailed enough or does not have enough design layers.

Then you would not be able to dye those layers simply because they do not exist, which would mean you might have a good dye system, but due to the armors lackluster and low quality it looks like crap.

I think the armor looks pretty darn nice, although it could stand to have more variety. Dyes were kind of a lazy way to progress. Personally I think they need appearance slots so we can use armor just for appearance, everquest 2 had this and it was awesome. I can't tell you the amount of times in ESO I've loved a piece or armor's looks, but couldn't use it because I had outleveled it. If I could have equipped it into an appearance slot I would have been kept happy rather than having to dye something I probably didn't like in the first place, akin to applying paint to a piece of dog poo.

Surinen wrote: »

Malpherian wrote: »

So these were done by devs?

This.. really scares me because it looks like the kind of designs, color patterns my 3 year old daughter colors in her coloring books.......

Your devs are adults yes? So why do their "Contest" pictures look like something from a kindergarten classroom coloring contest?

promotional purpose. they have re-created characters from the pop culture to show what is possible to do. but I partially agree, same fact that they have done it displays at whom they are aiming their advertisement. personally I would prefer simple presentation 'it looks this' and now 'this'. I do not see anything childish about it. this is how some comic series' characters look.

I get the whole comic book character thing, what I don;t get is why TES devs, are even remotely trying to symbolize or attract Marvel fans to a TES game. This is Not "Iron Man defeats Dagoth Ur".

This is "The Elder Scrolls".

If this game continues to decline I may have to finaly wave goodbye to a franchise that has given me almost 15 years of fun, and go with another game.

Which would *** me off simply because I've been a TES fan since Arena.

To see a game which had so much potential be ruined by a Studio that obviously has no clue what the TES franchise entails, and see it turned into another DC Online game is just.... man....

I need to stop right there.

If ZOS isn't careful they may lose the remaining TES fan base.

Malpherian wrote: »

Surinen wrote: »

Malpherian wrote: »

So these were done by devs?

This.. really scares me because it looks like the kind of designs, color patterns my 3 year old daughter colors in her coloring books.......

Your devs are adults yes? So why do their "Contest" pictures look like something from a kindergarten classroom coloring contest?

promotional purpose. they have re-created characters from the pop culture to show what is possible to do. but I partially agree, same fact that they have done it displays at whom they are aiming their advertisement. personally I would prefer simple presentation 'it looks this' and now 'this'. I do not see anything childish about it. this is how some comic series' characters look.

I get the whole comic book character thing, what I don;t get is why TES devs, are even remotely trying to symbolize or attract Marvel fans to a TES game. This is Not "Iron Man defeats Dagoth Ur".

This is "The Elder Scrolls".

If this game continues to decline I may have to finaly wave goodbye to a franchise that has given me almost 15 years of fun, and go with another game.

Which would *** me off simply because I've been a TES fan since Arena.

To see a game which had so much potential be ruined by a Studio that obviously has no clue what the TES franchise entails, and see it turned into another DC Online game is just.... man....

I need to stop right there.

If ZOS isn't careful they may lose the remaining TES fan base.

i agree completely. People on the lore pages are absolutely having a fit and my friedns that quit are having a blast tearing it apart.

I found it quite disturbing that they did super heroes instead of fantasy heros.... like lotr, DnD, and etc.

I think the devs are completely 100% out of touch with the ES community. if This forces me to quit it will be the last one standing of 14 people from my guild that came here. I have been the biggest ESO defender I know and it was because the ES style was kept in tact and sacred (i was fine with them making mini maps and etc but the style was there)

if they go ahead with this it will make all the sacrifices to make the "mmo" more "elder scrolls" completely in vain. They made all these choices that drove mmoers away to make the game more immersive? well I wont be all that immersed when I got to mournhold and see 1000 clown colored fools a the bank.


Like... i can't even grasp this - its like one of the higher up suits said "we need more kids to come play this game only kids play games right?... the numbers are down. Kids like super heros right? well go make some super heros and put it out there ES be damned best super heroes get a day off"

Malpherian wrote: »

I get the whole comic book character thing, what I don;t get is why TES devs, are even remotely trying to symbolize or attract Marvel fans to a TES game. This is Not "Iron Man defeats Dagoth Ur".

This is "The Elder Scrolls".

If this game continues to decline I may have to finaly wave goodbye to a franchise that has given me almost 15 years of fun, and go with another game.

Which would *** me off simply because I've been a TES fan since Arena.

To see a game which had so much potential be ruined by a Studio that obviously has no clue what the TES franchise entails, and see it turned into another DC Online game is just.... man....

I need to stop right there.

If ZOS isn't careful they may lose the remaining TES fan base.

I totally agree. it emanates strange aura of 'megazord'. I dislike it, every very bit of it.

I do not mind colours though, with a proper application there should be no problems. but they should give more metallic colours, the ones showed on the screenshots looked to me like something you use for walls. I can't get that blue-white set out of my head, the one with red gauntlet. what was it.

and items need much more fill-colour spaces, 2 for piece is a no go

Malpherian wrote: »

Kraven wrote: »

Love the limited polls based upon OP bias. I voted "I like it" because I haven't actually seen it yet or gotten hands on, and with out hands on first person any opinion made is utterly pointless and baseless.

Well as some of you know I am a Dev, though I don't work for ESO. So let me tell you what the issue is here:

* These armor sets, you can tell by looking at them can only be dyed in 1 maybe 2 layers maximum. It is an obviously and exceedingly lacking dye system.

So those of you hoping to make your Shredder armor look more appealing... Your out of luck, as that armor is a 4 layer armor minimum.

* If I am incorrect in the above statements and the armors only have 1-2 layers (which that might be the case looking at the dweemer set....) Then that simply means that all the armor in ESO is some of the lowest quality designed armor in the entire MMO industry (Even WoW armor is 3-4 layers, and it's... ewww) and ESO should be ashamed for ever letting it out of the QC room.

Look I'm going to be honest ZOS, I know your working hard, I know you want to give players some of what they desire. but this half ass BS has to stop. Stop introducing what is obviously garbage half assed crap.

Wait, get it right, and give us some QUALITY product.

Trust me.. it will be worth it.

I thought you ran a private server on WoW? Or did you go in to game development after that? It's so hard to keep track.

The dye system looks fine in its execution, and the armor already looks good (definitely up to the standards of prior ES games). The only issue is how bright some of the coloring is. The fact that they were able to make those superhero duplicates is concerning to me. I don't want to see towns full of people in awful, garish colors just because they want the game to look more like Wildstar.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Malpherian wrote: »

Kraven wrote: »

Love the limited polls based upon OP bias. I voted "I like it" because I haven't actually seen it yet or gotten hands on, and with out hands on first person any opinion made is utterly pointless and baseless.

Well as some of you know I am a Dev, though I don't work for ESO. So let me tell you what the issue is here:

* These armor sets, you can tell by looking at them can only be dyed in 1 maybe 2 layers maximum. It is an obviously and exceedingly lacking dye system.

So those of you hoping to make your Shredder armor look more appealing... Your out of luck, as that armor is a 4 layer armor minimum.

* If I am incorrect in the above statements and the armors only have 1-2 layers (which that might be the case looking at the dweemer set....) Then that simply means that all the armor in ESO is some of the lowest quality designed armor in the entire MMO industry (Even WoW armor is 3-4 layers, and it's... ewww) and ESO should be ashamed for ever letting it out of the QC room.

Look I'm going to be honest ZOS, I know your working hard, I know you want to give players some of what they desire. but this half ass BS has to stop. Stop introducing what is obviously garbage half assed crap.

Wait, get it right, and give us some QUALITY product.

Trust me.. it will be worth it.

I thought you ran a private server on WoW? Or did you go in to game development after that? It's so hard to keep track.

The dye system looks fine in its execution, and the armor already looks good (definitely up to the standards of prior ES games). The only issue is how bright some of the coloring is. The fact that they were able to make those superhero duplicates is concerning to me. I don't want to see towns full of people in awful, garish colors just because they want the game to look more like Wildstar.

It would appear that Zenimax is going the way of the sellout. TES is not a Korean game/mmo and the style has never reflected that.

I was looking forward to dyes and tabards, now not so much. I am completely underwhelmed by the pics and state of the game address. I am pretty bummed out about the future of this game now. :'(

Based on the June road ahead screen of the dye bench it would seem each piece of armor has a main color, secondary color, and a trim.

Given that we have 20+ shades minimum for every color (based on their screenshot) I'm sure people will have decent odds of finding a color scheme the might enjoy.