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Would you support a difficulty slider?

  • Corew
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    No
    Play naked then and don't eat
  • Phantax
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    No
    NO, it would simply give an unfair advantage to some players (or just lazy players). Zenimax should just get the game balanced properly. Yes that will take time and they will get things wrong, but one overall fair/balanced system is better !

    :)
    High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
    I'm a werewolf. If you vamps don't like it.... Bite me !
    We're not retreating... we're advancing in a different direction !
  • DeLindsay
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    Yes
    Phantax wrote: »
    NO, it would simply give an unfair advantage to some players (or just lazy players). Zenimax should just get the game balanced properly. Yes that will take time and they will get things wrong, but one overall fair/balanced system is better !

    :)

    Exactly what unfair advantage would it give to any player that chooses to INCREASE the difficulty of their own PvE experience? Everyone here is in agreement that PvP would remain completely unaffected if they added such a feature.
  • SFBryan18
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    No
    Practice makes perfect.
  • Phantax
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    No
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Phantax wrote: »
    NO, it would simply give an unfair advantage to some players (or just lazy players). Zenimax should just get the game balanced properly. Yes that will take time and they will get things wrong, but one overall fair/balanced system is better !

    :)

    Exactly what unfair advantage would it give to any player that chooses to INCREASE the difficulty of their own PvE experience? Everyone here is in agreement that PvP would remain completely unaffected if they added such a feature.

    And what if some players just throw the slider down to easy mode, rush though all the content and start farming materials, armour, xp and gold that others have worked harder and longer to get ! That'd be fair... right !

    :/
    Edited by Phantax on July 4, 2014 8:48AM
    High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
    I'm a werewolf. If you vamps don't like it.... Bite me !
    We're not retreating... we're advancing in a different direction !
  • Loco_Mofo
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    Yes
    Phantax wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Phantax wrote: »
    NO, it would simply give an unfair advantage to some players (or just lazy players). Zenimax should just get the game balanced properly. Yes that will take time and they will get things wrong, but one overall fair/balanced system is better !

    :)

    Exactly what unfair advantage would it give to any player that chooses to INCREASE the difficulty of their own PvE experience? Everyone here is in agreement that PvP would remain completely unaffected if they added such a feature.

    And what if some players just throw the slider down to easy mode, rush though all the content and start farming materials, armour, xp and gold that others have worked harder and longer to get ! That'd be fair... right !

    :/

    I believe the slider would only increase difficulty, not make it easier. This is to combat the changes ZoS are bringing in making VR much easier.
  • Phantax
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    No
    Loco_Mofo wrote: »
    Phantax wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Phantax wrote: »
    NO, it would simply give an unfair advantage to some players (or just lazy players). Zenimax should just get the game balanced properly. Yes that will take time and they will get things wrong, but one overall fair/balanced system is better !

    :)

    Exactly what unfair advantage would it give to any player that chooses to INCREASE the difficulty of their own PvE experience? Everyone here is in agreement that PvP would remain completely unaffected if they added such a feature.

    And what if some players just throw the slider down to easy mode, rush though all the content and start farming materials, armour, xp and gold that others have worked harder and longer to get ! That'd be fair... right !

    :/

    I believe the slider would only increase difficulty, not make it easier. This is to combat the changes ZoS are bringing in making VR much easier.

    If its as simple as 'Normal Mode' / 'Nightmare Mode' option... hmm, yeah I may change my vote to yes. But the word slider suggests choice of movement and that could be down as well as up !
    High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
    I'm a werewolf. If you vamps don't like it.... Bite me !
    We're not retreating... we're advancing in a different direction !
  • DeLindsay
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    Yes
    Phantax wrote: »
    If its as simple as 'Normal Mode' / 'Nightmare Mode' option... hmm, yeah I may change my vote to yes. But the word slider suggests choice of movement and that could be down as well as up !

    If you read many of the posts you'd have seen that we're all pretty much in agreement that the game's current difficulty would be the "default" and could not be lowered any further. The only thing folks are interested in ZoS adding is a way to INCREASE the difficulty if they chose to. Some players just love a challenge, others don't, so why not give them an option down the road, obviously bugs fixed first.
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Yes
    thebigfist wrote: »
    D3 was crap because of the story line. What?!?!1?!?

    I didnt give a damn about d1 story line, d2 story line, and I never watched a single cinematic in D3. Story line is the last thing I look for in a game.
    Even in ESO, I haven't read a single dialog box. Blah blah blah, go there and kill some crap or pick up some crap. Ya, I got it. If I wanted to read a book... dang I'd just read a book.
    This is very off topic, hahaha.

    Well, it's like watching an Emmerlich movie. Once you see past the eye candy, you realize you just saw a garbage story with garbage PC preaching.

    Damn, I wish I could mind-bleach 2012 out of my head, and send Emmerlich and those actors to Africa if they think it's so great.


    And the reason people don't want to group is quite plain to see here, with all the "no" votes, elites wanting to force people to bang their heads against walls. What the hell is so offensive about someone being able to turn their slider difficulty down, when they would have the freedom to turn their slider up? The worst thing about humans is, they seem to be fascists by nature. "Do it my way or else." "I want to live in your country, but I hate your culture, change for me!" Bleah. If you can't take your headgear off, then stay out of the legion, don't make our native army guys change their rules. etc.

    A difficulty slider would just help to get MORE people to play the game, because they'd have a CHOICE of how hard it is. WHY people want to FORCE crap on others is beyond me. And oh, you wouldn't want to see what I would force on humans if I had _my_ way.




    Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on July 4, 2014 10:59AM
  • Phantax
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    No
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    If you read many of the posts you'd have seen that we're all pretty much in agreement that the game's current difficulty would be the "default" and could not be lowered any further.

    Not strictly correct, they are about to lower all the VR difficulty aren't they ?
    High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
    I'm a werewolf. If you vamps don't like it.... Bite me !
    We're not retreating... we're advancing in a different direction !
  • tordr86b16_ESO
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    No
    last time i checked eso was a mmorpg.
  • nudel
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    Yes
    Phantax wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    If you read many of the posts you'd have seen that we're all pretty much in agreement that the game's current difficulty would be the "default" and could not be lowered any further.

    Not strictly correct, they are about to lower all the VR difficulty aren't they ?

    DeLindsay was speaking about the posts in this thread since they're kind of relevant to the poll.

    I find it interesting and strange that several No answers seem to completely misinterpret the question with responses like 'learn to play'. I will reiterate that ZOS already announced that the VR levels are being nerfed. With that in mind, a difficulty scale would be a means of preserving the more challenging mode while also allowing other players to select an easier mode. A compromise of sorts.

    The only two valid dissenting viewpoints I've seen related to doubts if it was even technically feasible and concerns about spreading players too thin and making it hard to group.
  • Hilgara
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    No
    This is purely a single game mechanic. Even if it wasn't I still wouldn't want it. MMO's are about meeting the challenge set by the developers. If the developers have done their job right the challenge required you to be close to optimal to meet that challenge. It should not be impossible but it should not be easy. The end game should require you to have discovered what optimal is and demand at least a good understanding of your class.

    I'm just glad I have levelled a couple of toons through the present content. I think I caught the best of ESO in terms of PvE levelling.
  • crislevin
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    Yes
    Depends on how you implement it, you can give less exp for each kill, each quest, etc.
  • xPuppetx
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    No
    I've never played a MMO with a difficulty slider; seems kinda counterintuitive to the genre.
  • Lodestar
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    Yes
    I have no idea how you would make that work in an mmo without affecting everyone around you... If someone could come up with a way I suppose I...would?

    This is why I say yes.. in theory.

    You could do it for the single player instances. I think that is half the issues people are having. Course, you would still hit VR which is where you could not fit it in so easy. And I think is the other aspect.

    EDIT: Find it amusing seeing the no's response, and it was quite predicable. "I don;t want it, so don't want you to have it". And I don't care about it which means I should stop you from wanting it. Course even some no's say don't need it, but don't actually mind.
    Edited by Lodestar on July 4, 2014 11:59AM
  • Lodestar
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    Yes
    The_Sadist wrote: »
    But seriously, this is, despite popular opinion, a MMORPG. Grouping with a single person makes veteran rank content a cake walk, but people are afraid to group up for some reason.

    Ok, I think your trying to over simplify it. I agree, grouping is a lost art. But it is not due to being afraid of it.
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Yes
    Lodestar wrote: »
    The_Sadist wrote: »
    But seriously, this is, despite popular opinion, a MMORPG. Grouping with a single person makes veteran rank content a cake walk, but people are afraid to group up for some reason.

    Ok, I think your trying to over simplify it. I agree, grouping is a lost art. But it is not due to being afraid of it.

    But packing up seems to happen pretty easily - I'll start following someone, then someone else will join in, and then another couple people will fall in, etc. It really feels kind of primal, in a good way; you don't really need to speak to each other, because "kill everything in sight" isn't exactly a difficult concept that needs a big ape brain and speech to understand.

    Heck, I even ran around with a multiboxer for a bit, because he was slaughtering everything really quick, and making my day much easier. ;)

    I think it's the easy-going informality that makes it feel good; coming from WoW you're used to people wanting to peer at your gear, achievements, etc, and suddenly you feel you're back in grade school gym class, where the teacher lets the class bullies be team leaders. I like that everyone who contributes to a kill in ESO gets xp and loot; it's casually and naturally co-operatve, rather than WoW's system which kind of wants to force you to group up when a zone is insanely busy (new expansion, Hogger on a busy server, etc.)

  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Yes
    demenzia wrote: »

    The worst thing about humans is, they seem to be fascists by nature. "Do it my way or else." "I want to live in your country, but I hate your culture, change for me!" Bleah. If you can't take your headgear off, then stay out of the legion, don't make our native army guys change their rules. etc.

    A difficulty slider would just help to get MORE people to play the game, because they'd have a CHOICE of how hard it is. WHY people want to FORCE crap on others is beyond me. And oh, you wouldn't want to see what I would force on humans if I had _my_ way.


    lawl that is exactly what people like you demand. "VR content is too difficult, change it for me! ", "I can't kill that boss, I don't know how to block and avoid big red circles on the ground, nerf the boss", "I don't know how to roll out of DK's talons and do not cast spells when I see huge wings on them, nerf DKs" etc. etc. all these threads you can find here, Zos reads it and uses nerf hammer. During my second play through I've been so disappointed that they made it so much easier, no challenge at all. You won't stop moaning till the day they nerf everything, so I voted yes, give us that slider! However it should be the way that once you choose a difficulty mode, you can't change it back or only for 200.000 gold for example, and hopefully you will be separated from other players who've chosen different mode, just like immigrants who don't want to assimilate live in their ghettos.

    But a slider gives you CHOICE. You don't have to have easy mode, someone else doesn't have to have hard mode, and no one is shoving anything down anyone's throat.

    Yes, I'm all for segregation if it keeps people from arguing and trying to boss each other around.


    Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on July 4, 2014 12:31PM
  • nerevarine1138
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    No
    demenzia wrote: »

    The worst thing about humans is, they seem to be fascists by nature. "Do it my way or else." "I want to live in your country, but I hate your culture, change for me!" Bleah. If you can't take your headgear off, then stay out of the legion, don't make our native army guys change their rules. etc.

    A difficulty slider would just help to get MORE people to play the game, because they'd have a CHOICE of how hard it is. WHY people want to FORCE crap on others is beyond me. And oh, you wouldn't want to see what I would force on humans if I had _my_ way.


    lawl that is exactly what people like you demand. "VR content is too difficult, change it for me! ", "I can't kill that boss, I don't know how to block and avoid big red circles on the ground, nerf the boss", "I don't know how to roll out of DK's talons and do not cast spells when I see huge wings on them, nerf DKs" etc. etc. all these threads you can find here, Zos reads it and uses nerf hammer. During my second play through I've been so disappointed that they made it so much easier, no challenge at all. You won't stop moaning till the day they nerf everything, so I voted yes, give us that slider! However it should be the way that once you choose a difficulty mode, you can't change it back or only for 200.000 gold for example, and hopefully you will be separated from other players who've chosen different mode, just like immigrants who don't want to assimilate live in their ghettos.

    But a slider gives you CHOICE. You don't have to have easy mode, someone else doesn't have to have hard mode, and no one is shoving anything down anyone's throat.

    And the best part is that it's completely unfeasible in an MMO!
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    Murray?
  • demenzia
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    Yes

    But a slider gives you CHOICE. You don't have to have easy mode, someone else doesn't have to have hard mode, and no one is shoving anything down anyone's throat.

    Yes, I'm all for segregation if it keeps people from arguing and trying to boss each other around.


    That's why I voted "yes", otherwise ESO will turn into the game for 5 y.o. children in no time
  • Rev Rielle
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    No
    A difficulty slider I don't think would solve any problems in the game.

    For players that want content harder:
    Like people have said, we have ways to making it so ourselves through our armour/weapon/skill choices etc.

    For players that want it easier:
    Play with a friend. It is supposed to be an MMO after all, so for any individual to expect to be able to play almost the entire game without having to be social is simply unreasonable.

    The latter's not always possible though, so I'd like to see players be able to hire Fighters Guild and Mages Guild mercenaries to help them if need be. Perhaps the function could be unlocked via a skill point in their respective tree. Or something similar.
    Edited by Rev Rielle on July 4, 2014 1:09PM
    If you can be anything, be kind.
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Yes
    demenzia wrote: »

    The worst thing about humans is, they seem to be fascists by nature. "Do it my way or else." "I want to live in your country, but I hate your culture, change for me!" Bleah. If you can't take your headgear off, then stay out of the legion, don't make our native army guys change their rules. etc.

    A difficulty slider would just help to get MORE people to play the game, because they'd have a CHOICE of how hard it is. WHY people want to FORCE crap on others is beyond me. And oh, you wouldn't want to see what I would force on humans if I had _my_ way.


    lawl that is exactly what people like you demand. "VR content is too difficult, change it for me! ", "I can't kill that boss, I don't know how to block and avoid big red circles on the ground, nerf the boss", "I don't know how to roll out of DK's talons and do not cast spells when I see huge wings on them, nerf DKs" etc. etc. all these threads you can find here, Zos reads it and uses nerf hammer. During my second play through I've been so disappointed that they made it so much easier, no challenge at all. You won't stop moaning till the day they nerf everything, so I voted yes, give us that slider! However it should be the way that once you choose a difficulty mode, you can't change it back or only for 200.000 gold for example, and hopefully you will be separated from other players who've chosen different mode, just like immigrants who don't want to assimilate live in their ghettos.

    But a slider gives you CHOICE. You don't have to have easy mode, someone else doesn't have to have hard mode, and no one is shoving anything down anyone's throat.

    And the best part is that it's completely unfeasible in an MMO!

    So it's a totally rhetorical question; but it is interesting to see how people are so against others having choices.
  • nerevarine1138
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    No
    demenzia wrote: »

    The worst thing about humans is, they seem to be fascists by nature. "Do it my way or else." "I want to live in your country, but I hate your culture, change for me!" Bleah. If you can't take your headgear off, then stay out of the legion, don't make our native army guys change their rules. etc.

    A difficulty slider would just help to get MORE people to play the game, because they'd have a CHOICE of how hard it is. WHY people want to FORCE crap on others is beyond me. And oh, you wouldn't want to see what I would force on humans if I had _my_ way.


    lawl that is exactly what people like you demand. "VR content is too difficult, change it for me! ", "I can't kill that boss, I don't know how to block and avoid big red circles on the ground, nerf the boss", "I don't know how to roll out of DK's talons and do not cast spells when I see huge wings on them, nerf DKs" etc. etc. all these threads you can find here, Zos reads it and uses nerf hammer. During my second play through I've been so disappointed that they made it so much easier, no challenge at all. You won't stop moaning till the day they nerf everything, so I voted yes, give us that slider! However it should be the way that once you choose a difficulty mode, you can't change it back or only for 200.000 gold for example, and hopefully you will be separated from other players who've chosen different mode, just like immigrants who don't want to assimilate live in their ghettos.

    But a slider gives you CHOICE. You don't have to have easy mode, someone else doesn't have to have hard mode, and no one is shoving anything down anyone's throat.

    And the best part is that it's completely unfeasible in an MMO!

    So it's a totally rhetorical question; but it is interesting to see how people are so against others having choices.

    It's a pointless question, not a rhetorical one.

    Since it's not remotely feasible in an MMO, I'm opposed to the idea even being floated. It's not about being against player choice; it's about being against ridiculously impractical ideas.
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    Murray?
  • GreySix
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    Yes
    Phantax wrote: »
    NO, it would simply give an unfair advantage to some players (or just lazy players). Zenimax should just get the game balanced properly. Yes that will take time and they will get things wrong, but one overall fair/balanced system is better !

    :)

    Jealousy is a terrible thing. How would it adversely impact your gameplay if others chose an easier mode in PvE?

    ... other than perhaps harming your ego?
    Crotchety Old Man Guild

    "Hey you, get off my lawn!"
  • nerevarine1138
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    No
    GreySix wrote: »
    Phantax wrote: »
    NO, it would simply give an unfair advantage to some players (or just lazy players). Zenimax should just get the game balanced properly. Yes that will take time and they will get things wrong, but one overall fair/balanced system is better !

    :)

    Jealousy is a terrible thing. How would it adversely impact your gameplay if others chose an easier mode in PvE?

    ... other than perhaps harming your ego?

    Limits grouping, wastes development resources, encourages the idea that all "casuals" are bad players, etc.
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    Murray?
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Yes
    demenzia wrote: »

    The worst thing about humans is, they seem to be fascists by nature. "Do it my way or else." "I want to live in your country, but I hate your culture, change for me!" Bleah. If you can't take your headgear off, then stay out of the legion, don't make our native army guys change their rules. etc.

    A difficulty slider would just help to get MORE people to play the game, because they'd have a CHOICE of how hard it is. WHY people want to FORCE crap on others is beyond me. And oh, you wouldn't want to see what I would force on humans if I had _my_ way.


    lawl that is exactly what people like you demand. "VR content is too difficult, change it for me! ", "I can't kill that boss, I don't know how to block and avoid big red circles on the ground, nerf the boss", "I don't know how to roll out of DK's talons and do not cast spells when I see huge wings on them, nerf DKs" etc. etc. all these threads you can find here, Zos reads it and uses nerf hammer. During my second play through I've been so disappointed that they made it so much easier, no challenge at all. You won't stop moaning till the day they nerf everything, so I voted yes, give us that slider! However it should be the way that once you choose a difficulty mode, you can't change it back or only for 200.000 gold for example, and hopefully you will be separated from other players who've chosen different mode, just like immigrants who don't want to assimilate live in their ghettos.

    But a slider gives you CHOICE. You don't have to have easy mode, someone else doesn't have to have hard mode, and no one is shoving anything down anyone's throat.

    And the best part is that it's completely unfeasible in an MMO!

    So it's a totally rhetorical question; but it is interesting to see how people are so against others having choices.

    It's a pointless question, not a rhetorical one.

    Since it's not remotely feasible in an MMO, I'm opposed to the idea even being floated. It's not about being against player choice; it's about being against ridiculously impractical ideas.

    Fair enough. I'm just used to taking silly questions/scenarios seriously for the purpose of ... mental exercise, or whatnot. It's about the only way I can stand to watch most sci-fi.

    Just for personal fun and something to do, I'm trying to write a deliberately silly space-adventure story along the lines of HGttG, but I keep overthinking things and ruining it.

  • GreySix
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    Yes
    GreySix wrote: »
    Phantax wrote: »
    NO, it would simply give an unfair advantage to some players (or just lazy players). Zenimax should just get the game balanced properly. Yes that will take time and they will get things wrong, but one overall fair/balanced system is better !

    :)

    Jealousy is a terrible thing. How would it adversely impact your gameplay if others chose an easier mode in PvE?

    ... other than perhaps harming your ego?

    Limits grouping, wastes development resources, encourages the idea that all "casuals" are bad players, etc.

    Limits grouping how? I thought folks who wanted to play in hard mode didn't want to group with folks who are more casual, so why wouldn't segregating such folks be a good idea?

    Wastes development resources? Really want to go there? Look around. There's been no shortage of wasted development, friend.

    I don't care what others think about casuals. I want to play the game for fun, and I want to be as far away from "leet" players in-game as I can possibly be - preferably their complete absence from my chosen instance.
    Crotchety Old Man Guild

    "Hey you, get off my lawn!"
  • Hilgara
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    demenzia wrote: »

    The worst thing about humans is, they seem to be fascists by nature. "Do it my way or else." "I want to live in your country, but I hate your culture, change for me!" Bleah. If you can't take your headgear off, then stay out of the legion, don't make our native army guys change their rules. etc.

    A difficulty slider would just help to get MORE people to play the game, because they'd have a CHOICE of how hard it is. WHY people want to FORCE crap on others is beyond me. And oh, you wouldn't want to see what I would force on humans if I had _my_ way.


    lawl that is exactly what people like you demand. "VR content is too difficult, change it for me! ", "I can't kill that boss, I don't know how to block and avoid big red circles on the ground, nerf the boss", "I don't know how to roll out of DK's talons and do not cast spells when I see huge wings on them, nerf DKs" etc. etc. all these threads you can find here, Zos reads it and uses nerf hammer. During my second play through I've been so disappointed that they made it so much easier, no challenge at all. You won't stop moaning till the day they nerf everything, so I voted yes, give us that slider! However it should be the way that once you choose a difficulty mode, you can't change it back or only for 200.000 gold for example, and hopefully you will be separated from other players who've chosen different mode, just like immigrants who don't want to assimilate live in their ghettos.

    But a slider gives you CHOICE. You don't have to have easy mode, someone else doesn't have to have hard mode, and no one is shoving anything down anyone's throat.

    And the best part is that it's completely unfeasible in an MMO!

    So it's a totally rhetorical question; but it is interesting to see how people are so against others having choices.

    It's a pointless question, not a rhetorical one.

    Since it's not remotely feasible in an MMO, I'm opposed to the idea even being floated. It's not about being against player choice; it's about being against ridiculously impractical ideas.

    Fair enough. I'm just used to taking silly questions/scenarios seriously for the purpose of ... mental exercise, or whatnot. It's about the only way I can stand to watch most sci-fi.

    Just for personal fun and something to do, I'm trying to write a deliberately silly space-adventure story along the lines of HGttG, but I keep overthinking things and ruining it.

    Absolutely no imagination. I bet he would be crap at table top games :wink:
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Hilgara wrote: »
    demenzia wrote: »

    The worst thing about humans is, they seem to be fascists by nature. "Do it my way or else." "I want to live in your country, but I hate your culture, change for me!" Bleah. If you can't take your headgear off, then stay out of the legion, don't make our native army guys change their rules. etc.

    A difficulty slider would just help to get MORE people to play the game, because they'd have a CHOICE of how hard it is. WHY people want to FORCE crap on others is beyond me. And oh, you wouldn't want to see what I would force on humans if I had _my_ way.


    lawl that is exactly what people like you demand. "VR content is too difficult, change it for me! ", "I can't kill that boss, I don't know how to block and avoid big red circles on the ground, nerf the boss", "I don't know how to roll out of DK's talons and do not cast spells when I see huge wings on them, nerf DKs" etc. etc. all these threads you can find here, Zos reads it and uses nerf hammer. During my second play through I've been so disappointed that they made it so much easier, no challenge at all. You won't stop moaning till the day they nerf everything, so I voted yes, give us that slider! However it should be the way that once you choose a difficulty mode, you can't change it back or only for 200.000 gold for example, and hopefully you will be separated from other players who've chosen different mode, just like immigrants who don't want to assimilate live in their ghettos.

    But a slider gives you CHOICE. You don't have to have easy mode, someone else doesn't have to have hard mode, and no one is shoving anything down anyone's throat.

    And the best part is that it's completely unfeasible in an MMO!

    So it's a totally rhetorical question; but it is interesting to see how people are so against others having choices.

    It's a pointless question, not a rhetorical one.

    Since it's not remotely feasible in an MMO, I'm opposed to the idea even being floated. It's not about being against player choice; it's about being against ridiculously impractical ideas.

    Fair enough. I'm just used to taking silly questions/scenarios seriously for the purpose of ... mental exercise, or whatnot. It's about the only way I can stand to watch most sci-fi.

    Just for personal fun and something to do, I'm trying to write a deliberately silly space-adventure story along the lines of HGttG, but I keep overthinking things and ruining it.

    Absolutely no imagination. I bet he would be crap at table top games :wink:

    :) And hey, don't put down the lazy. Some of our greatest technological achievements/advances came from some lazy bum trying to find an easier way of doing things.

    I think the main reason the car became so popular so quickly is because horses are just too much fuss.

    Anyway, games are supposed to be FUN. The minute you start taking them too seriously, is when the fun starts to fade. I enjoy watching a bunch of clumsy little kids try to play Pee-Wee hockey more than an NHL game - the kids are simply having more fun, and it shows.
    Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on July 4, 2014 1:59PM
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