Horrid Lag / Mobs not visiable / Players not visiable

brandon · July 2014

Seriously this is ridiculous. I still cannot play the freaking game. I can't wait for the next patch. I have a poll I want to make, but I'm waiting till they announce the next patch.

Hathei · July 2014

I've run into this issue as well. It's gotten to the point that whole walls and interiors fail to load alongside the invisible mobs/players problem.

istateres · July 2014

I've been playing since Beta and I have experienced this problem before, but everything was working well until 1.2.3. Since then, the lag, loading delays, have been crazy bad, the worest I've seen. I can't PVP (it's like a slideshow!). Can't quest 'cuse those invisible mobs wipe me. I can harvest ONLY if I get to a mob free area, and then go slow so things load. Note, Coldharbor actually is the best for me in term of lag. Not good, but ok for harvesting.

Could we get some recogniztion that this REMAINS a problem post the hot fix?!

Hello Zenimax?

Detector · July 2014

+1. Similar problems(

Seravi · July 2014

Just put in a ticket. Since the hot fix any combat I have I go from 50-60 fps to five every single time. Once they die it jumps back to the normal until I get into combat again in PVE. 140702-003627.

Kre · July 2014

brandon wrote: »

@Zos_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_AmeliaR @ZOS_TristanK‌ @ZOS_JasonL @ZOS_MichelleA @ZOS_HugoP
Seriously give a damn answer already. There is no way you guys can't notice the red notice at the top of the screen stating 1 NEW MESSAGE. For *** sake give us an answer.

when I go to my in box its blank sooooooo

boldfacedtype · July 2014

Agree with all of the above, with addition that my game keeps totally crashing out for no reason. With each new update, a new exciting hell.

raymonddenneyb14_ESO · July 2014

Ya, I am having all the same problems as the OP. This renders the game un-playable. I really do love this game, but I I will cancel my subscription because of this. It needs to be fixed yesterday.

Kre · July 2014

The Bloodthorns are causing a temporal displacement in Tamriel, someone needs to fire the lead developer for being corrupted by Molag Bal

SBR_QuorTek · July 2014

I noticed a few things, and of course none offense meant at all... a Geforce 750 and 610, are not really powerfull GFX cards... unless you play the game on ultra low settings, don't get me wrong in this though...

Think of it like this, you don't bring a VW Beetle to Dragrace a Bugatti Veyron

Maybe some kind of petition to be able to shut lightning and shadows and the likes off when playing the game would help some of you guys better, and it could becaused especially the FPS thing with a lower end GFX card as it is, one thing is certain though, it does not make anything better.

Now now I am not saying people should go out and buy to Geforce Titans or something much lesser could do it... for an instance a Geforce 770 or if want to save a buck 680.

Not sure if this is helpfull, personally myself I am running with a 690 which is close to two 680s.. FPS remains intact no matter what I do but... the server itself seem to be lagging from time to time.

Pmarsico9 · July 2014

SBR_QuorTek wrote: »

I noticed a few things, and of course none offense meant at all... a Geforce 750 and 610, are not really powerfull GFX cards... unless you play the game on ultra low settings, don't get me wrong in this though...

Think of it like this, you don't bring a VW Beetle to Dragrace a Bugatti Veyron

Maybe some kind of petition to be able to shut lightning and shadows and the likes off when playing the game would help some of you guys better, and it could becaused especially the FPS thing with a lower end GFX card as it is, one thing is certain though, it does not make anything better.

Now now I am not saying people should go out and buy to Geforce Titans or something much lesser could do it... for an instance a Geforce 770 or if want to save a buck 680.

Not sure if this is helpfull, personally myself I am running with a 690 which is close to two 680s.. FPS remains intact no matter what I do but... the server itself seem to be lagging from time to time.

Except, that, yet again, this has absolutely nothing to do with hardware.

There's major issues with the client and the last patch in what it's done to the client's stability.

The game is rendering slower for people who had no issues at all before the patch. Framerates are dropping.

Guildies with Titan Blacks SLI'd are having issues. One has a liquid cooled tri-SLI'd monster that he dropped about 8K on 2 months ago. It doesn't matter. The game is running so poorly it's simply unplayable.

brandon · July 2014

Kre wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

@Zos_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_AmeliaR @ZOS_TristanK‌ @ZOS_JasonL @ZOS_MichelleA @ZOS_HugoP
Seriously give a damn answer already. There is no way you guys can't notice the red notice at the top of the screen stating 1 NEW MESSAGE. For *** sake give us an answer.

when I go to my in box its blank sooooooo

@Kre
Um I'm talking about when people name them in the comment the red notice you get

brandon · July 2014

SBR_QuorTek wrote: »

I noticed a few things, and of course none offense meant at all... a Geforce 750 and 610, are not really powerfull GFX cards... unless you play the game on ultra low settings, don't get me wrong in this though...

Think of it like this, you don't bring a VW Beetle to Dragrace a Bugatti Veyron

Maybe some kind of petition to be able to shut lightning and shadows and the likes off when playing the game would help some of you guys better, and it could becaused especially the FPS thing with a lower end GFX card as it is, one thing is certain though, it does not make anything better.

Now now I am not saying people should go out and buy to Geforce Titans or something much lesser could do it... for an instance a Geforce 770 or if want to save a buck 680.

Not sure if this is helpfull, personally myself I am running with a 690 which is close to two 680s.. FPS remains intact no matter what I do but... the server itself seem to be lagging from time to time.

@SBR_QuorTek
Sorry petitions are against zenimaxs stupid terms of service

brandon · July 2014

Ok this is funny. ZOS just messaged me saying that it must be my computer. How the *** is it my computer when it worked fine up until the *** 1.2.3 patch. That is 2 full months of me playing fine.

Mad_Dog_Reno · July 2014

brandon wrote: »

Ok this is funny. ZOS just messaged me saying that it must be my computer. How the *** is it my computer when it worked fine up until the *** 1.2.3 patch. That is 2 full months of me playing fine.

Hmmm can't they see pattern here when patch 1.2.3 released so many, many have now that lag/frame problem. Or they think all those computer have gone broke on same time?

Larira · July 2014

maddog.renoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Have tried this too and no change for frame drops! Them still drop to 5-6 (from 40-50) when more players around you in cyrodiil.

Maybe it will not work against the FPS drops in Cyrodiil. But it worked against the ability lag i had overall in the world.

Greetings

Mad_Dog_Reno · July 2014

Larira wrote: »

maddog.renoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Have tried this too and no change for frame drops! Them still drop to 5-6 (from 40-50) when more players around you in cyrodiil.

Maybe it will not work against the FPS drops in Cyrodiil. But it worked against the ability lag i had overall in the world.

Greetings

Well other places than Cyrodiil my frames drop after 1.2.3 pacth only few frames so with that i can live but Cyrodiil is now unplayable when frames drop to 5-6 when more player around.

zzz · July 2014

The resource management in this game has always been staggeringly poor, but they've managed to lump fps issues on top of it recently. One of the first things I noticed about the game when I logged in several months ago was the way interior furniture loads - you can have a room with several pieces of identical furniture and they all appear/load at different times. I assumed they weren't loading each one into memory several times (that'd be idiotic beyond words), but I'm not sure going on recent performance and the amount my HD has started to thrash. Instead I thought that perhaps these objects, given that many could be interacted with, didn't fully render until the server let the client know what was in them. Given that such objects are instanced, that's a lot of extra work for the server. However, recently we can now interact with these objects and take things from them before they even render (IF they ever render), so I'm not sure what they're doing. My suspicion has moved back to them loading things into memory many times instead of just once.

Another good example of their resource management is missing spell effects - these are skills you have on your hotbar, their effects should be loaded and maintained in memory as soon as that hotbar is in use (or even when it's not, but the skill is slotted on your other hotbar). Instead, it is possible to spam the same spell twice and the first time it displays, while the second time you get missing texture resources. Are they free'ing and reloading the textures every time you fire the spell? I'd hope it's another bug somewhere, but my HD is telling me otherwise.

If they are loading resources in this manner, when it comes to meshes and textures you can say goodbye to fps if the GPU has to worry about allocating and free'ing memory constantly rather than actually rendering a scene.

Then there is that message that boots you to desktop to prattle on about art resources that looks suspiciously like a debug build feature to me for use by dev and QA teams. Hopefully it's isolated, but if there is part of a debug build floating around the client in what should be a release build 3 patches after it was first introduced (and around the time the problems began), alarm bells should be ringing in the dev team. God knows what other things that shouldn't be in a releasebuild are slowing the client down.

Blah, rant over.

I know they don't read here, before anyone snipes. Just venting.

Rhodzevool · July 2014

Thats is terribe. Just terrible, guys. I start playing in TESO couse i am fan of TES. But, all that i see in game- it is terrible lags, red point on compas and incoming damage without any reasons. I am waitin 4-5 minutes for banker loaded. What is that? Is it epic game, that should be price so? Where is correct codemaking? Is developers guys think, that texturing and questing enought for us? And i am feeling, that it situation will continue far. Hotfix for FPS upping? Lol. I feel myself fraudulent by ZOS. Realy. I am playeing in WOW without any troubles. And i think that now i will abord TESO subscription and wait 1-2 years for normal playing. Enough for me. Yes it is 5 days gaming enought for understunding the situation. I will back. Maybe. As i sayed- after 1-2 years. And sorry for my english. Bye!

Darzil · July 2014

Turning sound off in options, as per this thread : http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/117081/fps-lag-fix-tested-in-cyrodiil fixes all these issues for me. Game goes from unplayable back to 1.2.2 levels.

NoirJ · July 2014

Darzil wrote: »

Turning sound off in options, as per this thread : http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/117081/fps-lag-fix-tested-in-cyrodiil fixes all these issues for me. Game goes from unplayable back to 1.2.2 levels.

Thanks will give it a go if I can actually get past the loading screen.

SirAndy · July 2014

For those who missed my earlier post ...

SirAndy wrote: »

Guys, this has nothing to do with your hardware specs. I have a purpose build high end gaming rig with all the latest bells and whistles and i see the exact same issues ever since the 1.2.3 patch.

NoirJ · July 2014

Cant even log on, endless load screen, with or without using a vpn. So its a moot point for me tbh.

Pmarsico9 · July 2014

Darzil wrote: »

Turning sound off in options, as per this thread : http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/117081/fps-lag-fix-tested-in-cyrodiil fixes all these issues for me. Game goes from unplayable back to 1.2.2 levels.

This may work but is a putrid fix. No sound? Lolol

Darzil · July 2014

No sound beats no game for me. And now it looks like the issue is sound, it should help the devs find a solution.

SeltzerDuke · July 2014

Well, it may work for some, but I saw virtually no difference after disabling all sound/music. Even if ability lag were improved by this, I'm not sure how sound would play a role in why mobs don't populate - I say this after shutting down the game because three times killed by invisible enemies, even when I move very slowly into an area to try to let everything load, was about two times too many. Not about to burn through gold on repairs/soul gems for something outside of my control, heh. On the bright side, since it looks like there will be no fix before the holiday weekend, seems like I'll have that much more time for other activities. :P

alenae1b14_ESO · July 2014

Stupid FPS issues even in Coldharbor now. Come on Zenimax fix this.

Eisdol · July 2014

As for the sound off test, working with me too. No more lag, I can see mobs, spell trigger effects are now synchro. So it need to be adressed because we need sound!

keithlonerganb14a_ESO · July 2014

There seems to be 2 different problems in this one thread.

Problem #1: FPS issue mostly in PVP

Problem #2: Invisible mobs, load screens, lack of world objects rendering, health bar inaccuracy in PVE

I have problem #2. FPS is not really an issue for me in PVE, I am about where I was before the patch, but I still get the invisible mobs, etc.

Kinda interesting that two different massive problems developed from one patch.

Sertari · July 2014

Standing in front of a hag, did unstable core, got applied, works, go to it, press Biting jabs, yeah press biting jabs, and again and after 5-8 sec i see an anim of that. I mean come on that can't be. At least I didn't get killed this time like in a Cellar before where all of my input didn't do something and 3 guys beat the ... out of me.