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Gwarok✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full ModeFully customizable?"Strive for balance of all things. When the scales tip to one side or the other, someone or somethings gets short-changed. When someone gets short-changed, unpredictability and strife unbalance the world around us...To achieve freedom from greed, from want, and from strife, all parties in any exchange MUST find balance." -House Hlaalu's Philosophy of Trade
"I am ALWAYS very busy, so I KNOW what's best. You need to stay away from the waterfall. TRUST ME, you're better off keeping busy than playing in the stream....Do you know how to swim, Little Scrib?"
"I am but a simple farmer". -Rags'nar LodesBroke
#SKOOMA!
(Juliet):
...it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man.
O, be some other name!
What's in a name?
That which we call a rose?
By any other name would smell as sweet.
Retain that dear perfection to which he owes...
(Act II, Scene II -William Shakespeare's: Romeo & Juliet -1595 A.D.)0 -
nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The more I read the OP, the more disturbed I am. This is not intended to be a joke or flame in any way: you may want to seek professional help. The scenarios you describe range from generally violent to sadistic. Those are not normal things to want to see.----
Murray?8 -
Surinen✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full Mode
naturally! whatever kind sir wishes! it may be something along the lines of official version of dance of death.Fully customizable?
Peter Jackson would disagree.nerevarine1138 wrote: »The more I read the OP, the more disturbed I am. This is not intended to be a joke or flame in any way: you may want to seek professional help. The scenarios you describe range from generally violent to sadistic. Those are not normal things to want to see.
Do you watch horror movies? Did you watch horror movies from 80'?
these scenerios are light as chicken's feather.
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Mordria✭✭✭✭No - I'm weak and such horrible things are not for me. our world is already brutal. I do not want to see it in my games!So, if I don't want to see blood and gore equates to me being weak?
I'd say that equates to you being.. umm, 12.
Try putting up a serious poll.7 -
Sensesfail13✭✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full ModeThey made an option for the people that dont care one way or another... its called not being part of the poll.Wisherr, Dragonknight, Haderus, NA Server.
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Surinen✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full Mode
yes, weak.So, if I don't want to see blood and gore equates to me being weak?
I'd say that equates to you being.. umm, 12.
Try putting up a serious poll.
please, do not hesitate to think about me in whatever fashion you wish.
it is a serious poll
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✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full ModeThe thought of blood covering my Orcs armour and dripping from his mace has me drooling. Sadly we won't see it.1 -
Surinen✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full Mode
you have painted such an exquisite image behind the veil of my eyes! mace especially, imagine brain parts stuck between it, your massive boots bearing intenstines and squishy sound following you when you lay your heavy legs on the blood soaked earth. fully customisable!The thought of blood covering my Orcs armour and dripping from his mace has me drooling. Sadly we won't see it.
but yes, probably we won't.
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Sindala✭✭✭✭✭I'm sure more of this will be added over time now. It was only a few weeks before release that the game was slapped with a Teen rated.
Luckily it does now allow them to go wild and let the ES innuendoes and gore fly
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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full ModeAfter reading the OP again I wouldn't have a problem with anything except the dead body mutilation and cutting women breasts of. They are not something that would result from normal combat and since this isn't be a deviant sim they have no place in it. On the other hand where the hell are the burning enemies running in all directions when they start to burn and why don't they leave burned corpses.ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes - Blood - just blood; blood pools, bloodied weapons and bodies
what else, did you expect? no- because I prefer blue over red?
Exactly - the OP wants some type of blood and gore in the game, and he wants to "prove" that everyone else does too, so he only presents 1 option without it, and does it in a ridiculously biased fashion. It's dishonest and pathetic.
you call it ridiculously biased fashion, I call it 'reality'.
depends on the rating:AlexDougherty wrote: »You won't get any more than pools of blood and maybe blood on clothes. The reason, the 15 rating on the game, the first two options would instantly reclassify it as an 18 rating.
Oh and the last option is insulting, people might just not want to see blood, it doesn't make them weak. It might be for aesthetic reasons, try not to prejudge in the future, or people might start judging you right back.
ESRB: M
PEGI: 16 <-- here would be a little bit of problem. but you can sell it in cash shop as 'dlc' and quite easily overcome the problem (just like CA did with Rome II)
To some truth might look as an insult. In my eyes they are weak. what do you mean by aesthetically? as if the bloody body parts should compose a pretty looking painting? if it is because they cannot bear the sight of it, well, the answer is simple: weakness.
By Aesthetically I mean they simply prefer the game without the blood, they are probably strong enough to see it, especially with todays tv and movies, but simply prefer that they don't see it.
In fact apart with people with phobias or the like, most of us have no problem with the sight of blood, except when we're eating.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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Surinen✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full Mode
Dead body mutiliation? there is none of it there but I do not mind some proper head stomping! And about breasts, well, depends on their size and armour. but with magick and swords everything is possible and considering their, depends, size on the chest then they are quite easily exposed to damage!After reading the OP again I wouldn't have a problem with anything except the dead body mutilation and cutting women breasts of. They are not something that would result from normal combat and since this isn't be a deviant sim they have no place in it. On the other hand where the hell are the burning enemies running in all directions when they start to burn and why don't they leave burned corpses.
but yes, running burners are definately missing.
and what might be the reason behind their preferences? I will tell you: weakness! they wish to not expose themselves to tension and intensive feelings. they dislike it, they are uncomfortable with it. they are weak! for them it is an unpleasant sight. negative stress.AlexDougherty wrote: »By Aesthetically I mean they simply prefer the game without the blood, they are probably strong enough to see it, especially with todays tv and movies, but simply prefer that they don't see it.
In fact apart with people with phobias or the like, most of us have no problem with the sight of blood, except when we're eating.
those who revel in it, they feel positive stress, tension and even conflict within themselves. rush, ecstasy even sometimes. but it does not work destructively on their psyche
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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full Mode
Dead body mutiliation? there is none of it there but I do not mind some proper head stomping! And about breasts, well, depends on their size and armour. but with magick and swords everything is possible and considering their, depends, size on the chest then they are quite easily exposed to damage!After reading the OP again I wouldn't have a problem with anything except the dead body mutilation and cutting women breasts of. They are not something that would result from normal combat and since this isn't be a deviant sim they have no place in it. On the other hand where the hell are the burning enemies running in all directions when they start to burn and why don't they leave burned corpses.
but yes, running burners are definately missing.
"Would you like to pierce holes in their bodies..."
I kind of assumed you meant corpses on both counts. I have no problem with blood , gore etc as a result of combat but there is something to deliberate , F up and wasteful about corpse mutilation In my opinion. It is also the kind of crap that makes games really hard to sell and publish.Edited by PBpsy on July 1, 2014 2:40PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
AlienSlof✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full ModeFull-on blood, gore and guts! I usually use mods that add this in my single player games. I'm not remotely squeamish and war/fighting/etc is not pretty when blades are involved.RIP Atherton, my beautiful little gentle friend, my Shining Light. I will miss you forever. Without you I am a hollow shell.0 -
AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes - Blood - just blood; blood pools, bloodied weapons and bodiesand what might be the reason behind their preferences? I will tell you: weakness! they wish to not expose themselves to tension and intensive feelings. they dislike it, they are uncomfortable with it. they are weak! for them it is an unpleasant sight. negative stress.
those who revel in it, they feel positive stress, tension and even conflict within themselves. rush, ecstasy even sometimes. but it does not work destructively on their psyche
Leaving aside your unfounded assumptions about why people might not want blood in a game, and trust me they are unfounded.
There is the small matter that you can not say whether or not revelling in bloodshed (even digital bloodshed) has a destructive effect on your psyche. We can, you can't. Likewise I can't say whether it has a negative effect on me, other people can, but I myself can't.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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stabbykitteh✭✭✭✭Don't need it, but don't care if it's optional.
Performance would be my concern. I'd much rather my abilities fire when I need them over cartoon blood (and yes, your poll is biased).1 -
isengrimb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭This poll sounds like it was made by the sort of hunter who goes goofy at the sight or thought of HUMAN blood being spilled.(which is why they don`t join the army and shoot things that actually deserve to die). Probably one of those folks who see nothing wrong in enslaving Khajit and Argonians because they don't look like monkeys.
Sounds like the guy I once saw who lamented that bodies and blood in Diablo 2 offline didn`t persist beyond 15 minutes. What, he wanted to run around on top of an eventual sea of corpses?
Go watch "Hard Boiled" (it's a really sick John Woo movie from Hong Kong) if you want that stuff.
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Mordria✭✭✭✭No - I'm weak and such horrible things are not for me. our world is already brutal. I do not want to see it in my games!Can a mod close this very obvious flame bait post.5
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NakedSnake✭✭✭Yes - Blood - just blood; blood pools, bloodied weapons and bodiesBased on the fact that when vamps feed the get a bloody bib effects that lasts for a little while. I don't see why bloody weapons at the very least has not been implemented."Brilliant! Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?"1 -
AlienSlof✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full ModeAlexDougherty wrote: »There is the small matter that you can not say whether or not revelling in bloodshed (even digital bloodshed) has a destructive effect on your psyche. We can, you can't. Likewise I can't say whether it has a negative effect on me, other people can, but I myself can't.
^ This ^
I love blood and gore in games and movies. Does this make me a psychopath?
No.
In real life, I'm a little old cat lady who rescues kittens. I know to keep some things to fantasy.
RIP Atherton, my beautiful little gentle friend, my Shining Light. I will miss you forever. Without you I am a hollow shell.1 -
ItsMeToo✭✭✭✭✭Do I get fries with that?FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.Balance is a "Bad" thing.
Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.
Balance is a "Bad" thing.Is the glass half full or half empty?
I say, "Get a smaller glass."1 -
arena25✭✭✭✭✭No - I'm weak and such horrible things are not for me. our world is already brutal. I do not want to see it in my games!I see two problems if we plant blood and gore in the game:
#1: It will make the game get a Adults Only rating (and possibly become the new face of the age-old "Kids and the Internet: A Dangerous Combo?" debate.
#2: It will likely make some people throw up (I'm looking at Grant or Kary from Mythbusters). This means they have to get a new keyboard which costs them $50 (which is unnecessary), or get a keyboard cleaner which costs $25 (again, completely unnecessary).
In addition, that would mean UI headaches and Visual headaches for ZeniMax. So, a word of advice: Just imagine the blood and gore.
Oh, and I agree with you, Tr1cksh0t. Something is wrong with the person who posted the OP.If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!6 -
Mordria✭✭✭✭No - I'm weak and such horrible things are not for me. our world is already brutal. I do not want to see it in my games!I see two problems if we plant blood and gore in the game:
#1: It will make the game get a Adults Only rating (and possibly become the new face of the age-old "Kids and the Internet: A Dangerous Combo?" debate.
#2: It will likely make some people throw up (I'm looking at Grant or Kary from Mythbusters). This means they have to get a new keyboard which costs them $50 (which is unnecessary), or get a keyboard cleaner which costs $25 (again, completely unnecessary).
In addition, that would mean UI headaches and Visual headaches for ZeniMax. So, a word of advice: Just imagine the blood and gore.
Oh, and I agree with you, Tr1cksh0t. Something is wrong with the person who posted the OP.
Yes, and unnecessary. Don't need to cheapen the game by adding that garbage.1 -
Surinen✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full Mode
wouldn't it be corpses? well, you could always harvest ears or other parts for trophies, Diablo 2 style."Would you like to pierce holes in their bodies..."
I kind of assumed you meant corpses on both counts. I have no problem with blood , gore etc as a result of combat but there is something to deliberate , F up and wasteful about corpse mutilation In my opinion. It is also the kind of crap that makes games really hard to sell and publish.
No, sorry, I do not trust you. It is exactly the reason repeated by me.AlexDougherty wrote: »[
Leaving aside your unfounded assumptions about why people might not want blood in a game, and trust me they are unfounded.
There is the small matter that you can not say whether or not revelling in bloodshed (even digital bloodshed) has a destructive effect on your psyche. We can, you can't. Likewise I can't say whether it has a negative effect on me, other people can, but I myself can't.
it is quite simple to tell whether it has negative or positive effect on you: the way you feel while watching it. if you have doubts about your own feelings, PET and EEG tests help you. I was not talking about long term effects.
well, I cannot agree with your evaluation. but yes, there is nothing wrong with enslavement of the lesser races, and both khajiit and argonians deserve it.isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »thalmor snipmer
ah, so it is very obvious bait post because people who like blood and gore can write about it here? or because the 'no' option does not fit your sophisticated taste?Can a mod close this very obvious flame bait post.
1. not if sold in cash shopI see two problems if we plant blood and gore in the game:
#1: It will make the game get a Adults Only rating (and possibly become the new face of the age-old "Kids and the Internet: A Dangerous Combo?" debate.
#2: It will likely make some people throw up (I'm looking at Grant or Kary from Mythbusters). This means they have to get a new keyboard which costs them $50 (which is unnecessary), or get a keyboard cleaner which costs $25 (again, completely unnecessary).
In addition, that would mean UI headaches and Visual headaches for ZeniMax. So, a word of advice: Just imagine the blood and gore.
Oh, and I agree with you, Tr1cksh0t. Something is wrong with the person who posted the OP.
2. optional. no need to turn it on.
how would it be cheapening? how is it unnecessary if the people want it? the only garbage I see is a series of your posts and unfound accusations.
Yes, and unnecessary. Don't need to cheapen the game by adding that garbage.
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arena25✭✭✭✭✭No - I'm weak and such horrible things are not for me. our world is already brutal. I do not want to see it in my games!Surinen, did you not even glance at my speculated reason ZeniMax won't allow it? "UI headaches and Visual headaches"?
Anyway, everyone has their own opinions so these polls are a classic example of the adage "You agree to disagree".If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!0 -
Surinen✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full Mode
Yes, I have missed it in reply but as you see, there was few messages to /r . Nap after work delayed it.Surinen, did you not even glance at my speculated reason ZeniMax won't allow it? "UI headaches and Visual headaches"?
Anyway, everyone has their own opinions so these polls are a classic example of the adage "You agree to disagree".
I'm a customer, I want, I wish, I demand, Zenimax may or may not listen to what I have to say. Still, it is my consumer's very right to wish product improved in the image that I prefer. With enough popularity they may consider to add at least minimal amounts of blood. Really, I have no technical knowledge, I do not pretend to know how programming works and to be honest I do not bother myself with it. It is on their side, they are paid for it. My money, their headaches to put it bluntly.
At the beginning I thought about not including 'no' option because my proposition is completely optional. I was interested in shades of gore that people want to see. it looks as if healthy dose of population enjoys classic blood and gore deluxe. heart warming
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daneyulebub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭What the hell does wanting or not wanting to see blood and gore have to do with being weak?
Do you have any idea what the word even means?
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Surinen✭✭✭Yes - Blood and Gore - Full Mode
please, if you have spare time, read posts in this topic. I have explained my point of view on it. it is up to you to agree or disagree,daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »What the hell does wanting or not wanting to see blood and gore have to do with being weak?
Do you have any idea what the word even means?
yes, I have an idea. even two.
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