Do you feel like a betatester in ESO?

Riptide · June 2014

Only one facet of the game strongly reminds me of betas, both this one and many others. The guild bank and store interface and lack thereof. I'm really very surprised at why this hasn't been front burnered, it punches above its weight class in terms of making the game feel not just unfinished but beta-like.

It is the glaring area, for me. There are others, but it stands out.

I cannot imagine how console users will navigate these systems without intense frustration.

Auric_ESO · June 2014

ebondeath wrote: »

The only thing that bothers me is the quickslot wheel. It's super clunky and awkward with a keyboard. Other than that, Im a happy customer or tester or whatever I am.

Greyminds quickslot addon. No more clunky wheel

crislevin · June 2014

judging by how many bugs they are fixing, how many skill designs are being changed, how many functions they are adding,

hell yeah.

Blade_07 · June 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

I mean, for many people, the game stills being in beta. I agree because many of the bugs and problems the game had in beta times, continue existing.

So, do you feel you still betatesting the game? With the difference that now you pay for it?

I agree. We are paying them for a beta game for sure and they know it. They are laughing at use all the way to the big bank!

Kaytlin · June 2014

Blackwidow,
It sounds like ESO might not be the game for you! Why don't you go back to Wow or whatever game you feel is better than ESO. I don't see a single omission from your list above that adds meaningful content to the game. Maybe you should spend a little more time playing the game, or move on, instead of complaining.
Caytlynne of Skye
V12 EB Sorceress

CTraveler · June 2014

No. ESO is definitely not feeling like a Beta to me. In the beta, I didn't feel a sense of permanent progression or consequences to my actions or the different things that the Devs had us testing. With live, every action, be it player made or dev made, has a definite weight and purpose to it. It maintains the feel of a game that is going somewhere- of a world that is constantly evolving and changing.

It's refreshing to see that in a game where as so many others (Be they single player or MMOs) often times just try to have "Everything" in at once, and only offer small expansions to the existing content afterwards.

Ragekniv · June 2014

If you're playing an OP DK or Sorc, your likely happy as you are still relevant to trials etc.

Try playing a Templar from Beta!

Zenimax hates Templars or doesn't care... no other plausible explanation for leaving the class with broken resource mechanic and worst sustained DPS from Beta to present!

Its like a nightmare, I wish this was beta, it would make sense but three months past Beta without sustained DPS and resource mechanic balance for all classes is ridiculous!

justsimon_ESO · June 2014

yes - and i love it! if i love a game enough, the core idea and actual gameplay, i'll keep playing no matter how many bugs are chomping at me.

twev · June 2014

'Feel like'?

I thought I was....

Rylana · June 2014

I was a beta tester in ESO.

Jokes on you, OP.

If you think this game is "like a beta" you should have seen the beta.

Come to think of it, have you ever seen a beta?

Mordria · June 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

I mean, for many people, the game stills being in beta. I agree because many of the bugs and problems the game had in beta times, continue existing.

So, do you feel you still betatesting the game? With the difference that now you pay for it?

No. This game is no where near the state of previous beta's I have tested.

RazielSR · June 2014

Rylana wrote: »

I was a beta tester in ESO.

Jokes on you, OP.

If you think this game is "like a beta" you should have seen the beta.

Come to think of it, have you ever seen a beta?

I was in 4 betas and i have betatested some games for your information. This game nowadays seems in beta (not officially of course).

Laura · June 2014

oh look RazierSR is string the pot again. how unusual.

Rylana · June 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I was a beta tester in ESO.

Jokes on you, OP.

If you think this game is "like a beta" you should have seen the beta.

Come to think of it, have you ever seen a beta?

I was in 4 betas and i have betatested some games for your information. This game nowadays seems in beta (not officially of course).

Then youd know it is completely impossible for a game to launch without missed bugs.

Not once in history has a truly "polished in the eyes of the beholder" game been released.

inb4 comparison to x y z corporation or game and my resounding and pithy rebuttal of false statements.

Lets play.

Gremlis · June 2014

I have been playing mmo's ever since DAoC and I can tell you we are ALL beta testers. An MMO is an evolving entity. Most devs couldn't even dream of where their mmo's evolved to since their time of concept. I have never been in an mmo without bugs. It is going to happen, its how you deal with it that defines who and how you are.

Stonesthrow · June 2014

Innocente wrote: »

And, WoW was literally 4 times the size (or more) of ESO when it released.

What are you talking about?

Wow was NO WHERE NEAR the size of ESO. Auridon alone is the size of 3+ WoW zones, and that's just one zone of one faction.

One ESO faction is closer to the size of ALL of WoW at it's release.

OK, maybe that's a stretch... but if you add all 3 factions, its way bigger than WoW content and size wise on a 1 to 1 basis.

SFBryan18 · June 2014

No because they didn't give me the pet monkey dammit!!!

The real question is, do people who constantly dwell on negative thoughts and whine about pointless nonsense feel they are living a healthy life?

Get meds. They work.

jazon1972_ESO · June 2014

Ragekniv wrote: »

If you're playing an OP DK or Sorc, your likely happy as you are still relevant to trials etc.

Try playing a Templar from Beta!

Zenimax hates Templars or doesn't care... no other plausible explanation for leaving the class with broken resource mechanic and worst sustained DPS from Beta to present!

Its like a nightmare, I wish this was beta, it would make sense but four months past Beta without sustained DPS and resource mechanic balance for all classes is ridiculous!

should add nightblade to that list..some of the solo content for this class was like a cruel joke.

jazon1972_ESO · June 2014

Rylana wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I was a beta tester in ESO.

Jokes on you, OP.

If you think this game is "like a beta" you should have seen the beta.

Come to think of it, have you ever seen a beta?

I was in 4 betas and i have betatested some games for your information. This game nowadays seems in beta (not officially of course).

Then youd know it is completely impossible for a game to launch without missed bugs.

Not once in history has a truly "polished in the eyes of the beholder" game been released.

inb4 comparison to x y z corporation or game and my resounding and pithy rebuttal of false statements.

Lets play.

dont think anyone is or was expecting a flawless game from launch but some of these bugs like not being able to log in for days at a time,and major imbalances in classes and broken boss's that were all present in beta should have been addressed before the launch of the game,for some these are game breaking.

personally i will stick with eso for awhile longer to see what is done with some of these issues. i have already seen the population plummet especially in the Vet zones were it is now nearly imposable to get group dungeons done due to the lack of players.i can only hope some of our lost players return to the game once most of the larger issues are resolved.

Blackwidow · June 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

The real question is, do people who constantly dwell on negative thoughts and whine about pointless nonsense feel they are living a healthy life?

I don't know. Do you feel you are living a healthy life?

Lalai · June 2014

All games have issues where groups of people can't patch, can't login, or have things that prevent them from playing. It's kind of a luck of the draw thing. All MMOs also have threads about how the developers are incompetent, the beta was too short, the game was released too early, xyz bugs should have been fixed by now, shortage of players, and so on.

So, basically.. no, I don't feel like I'm playing a beta anymore than past MMOs have felt like a beta version during launch. My definition includes the majority (not all) of people being able to log on, and get through quests in the game, level up, and experience content with ease. ESO seems to meet that criteria. The first six months or so of any MMO tends to house a lot of down time and tons of bug fixes, as well as learning how to deal with gold spammers and botters.

Mortosk · June 2014

Rylana wrote: »

I was a beta tester in ESO.

Jokes on you, OP.

If you think this game is "like a beta" you should have seen the beta.

Come to think of it, have you ever seen a beta?

No silly, you were an Alpha tester in Beta. Now you are a Beta tester!

BTW, I've beta tested at least a dozen MMO's now, and I have to say, ESO had the most bugs and glitches of any of them.

At least the servers didn't crash or lock people out for days on launch. That's the only positive I can give them. The game itself was buggy as hell though.

Blackwidow · June 2014

Mortosk wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I was a beta tester in ESO.

Jokes on you, OP.

If you think this game is "like a beta" you should have seen the beta.

Come to think of it, have you ever seen a beta?

No silly, you were an Alpha tester in Beta. Now you are a Beta tester!

BTW, I've beta tested at least a dozen MMO's now, and I have to say, ESO had the most bugs and glitches of any of them.

At least the servers didn't crash or lock people out for days on launch. That's the only positive I can give them. The game itself was buggy as hell though.

Actually it did. There was a 301 error that locked a lot of people out of the game for weeks.

Gremlis · June 2014

I had an alt in STO that I could log into but couldn't get out of the space zone I was in for like 2 weeks. I just made an alt. and waited till they fixed. That char made the most ground dps of any I seen in that game. She is on youtube ground pvp as Renny. My point is, because its delayed it still wont ruin your plans, or enjoyment when maxed.

Captain_Scheisse · June 2014

super beat.. well the feedback is preprepre alpha.. its so slugish to the point you are *** pissed because its reakting like tar.. button feedback and reaktion is horror.. really the worst iv ever plaed.. was fun at the beginning but u mostly die because of this slugish laggy fightning.. u diiiiiieee and when u ressurect ...baaaeeemmm your ultimate activates.. "just in time"...

Mortosk · June 2014

Blackwidow wrote: »

Mortosk wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I was a beta tester in ESO.

Jokes on you, OP.

If you think this game is "like a beta" you should have seen the beta.

Come to think of it, have you ever seen a beta?

No silly, you were an Alpha tester in Beta. Now you are a Beta tester!

BTW, I've beta tested at least a dozen MMO's now, and I have to say, ESO had the most bugs and glitches of any of them.

At least the servers didn't crash or lock people out for days on launch. That's the only positive I can give them. The game itself was buggy as hell though.

Actually it did. There was a 301 error that locked a lot of people out of the game for weeks.

Technically that didn't really escalate until after launch though! When they made the game even more buggy with the first major content patch. Thought that was when that issue really exploded. Only a small percentage were effected by this at launch. Guess I was one of the lucky ones.

I did get locked out of the game for 2 days though once when Cyrodil crashed I got stuck on "Loading Character Info..."

twev · June 2014

Lalai wrote: »

All games have issues where groups of people can't patch, can't login, or have things that prevent them from playing. It's kinda of a luck of the draw thing. All MMOs also have threads about how the developers are incompetent, the beta was too short, the game was released too early, xyz bugs should have been fixed by now, shortage of players, and so on.

So, basically.. no, I don't feel like I'm playing a beta anymore than past MMOs have felt like a beta version during launch. My definition includes the majority (not all) of people being able to log on, and get through quests in the game, level up, and experience content with ease. ESO seems to meet that criteria. The first six months or so of any MMO tends to house a lot of down time and tons of bug fixes, as well as learning how to deal with gold spammers and botters.

How long does a beta have to be before the devs start fixing some of the bugs the testers report?
So many bugs were missed or ignored, are you implying that there is some magic point in time where the devs decide to pay attention?

Just asking.

Captain_Scheisse · June 2014

ohhh yes i forgot the ..JOKE INCOMING.... the guildbank SEARCH FUNCTION... haahahahahahahaha well .. not really.. waste of time basher3000.. why the hell can i search the *** i sell .. but the """filters"" dondt even work 50% of em... best search ever !!! *GGG

Salyyn · June 2014

Has anyone ever played the Forsaken World?... I mean, that game, after it was LIVE for almost 6 months, completely wiped everything and started everyone over, and then the game was almost completely different.

Edit: Guess I should have specified. While, yes, I do feel like it's beta still, there's nothing wrong with that. It's OPEN beta in my eyes. Most games aren't concrete even a year into play.

Areoth · June 2014

The game is further along than most MMO's at this time after release. Played a lot of them over the years and they ALL had problems after release, ESO seems to have less than most.

I have a pretty good computer and a good connection. So far the only real bugs I have had during game play since launch are minor. Game balance issues between classes are normal to every MMO and nothing unusual, hell some games that have been out for years are still trying to get it right.

With games getting ever more complex with increasing layers of detail added, it is very naive and unrealistic to expect a complete polished version after launch, or even within a year of launch.

It comes down to simple questions.

Is it fun?
Do you feel like paying $15/month for that fun?

If no, then find something else, if yes then relax.