Even nowadays (3 years later)Is maybe Skyrim having more players by day than ESO?
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BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭So as it seems the only one surprised is me, then don't worry.
Eso will be successful, you will never see this game going f2p.
A lot of people is creating new subs everyday. The whole forums and empty guilds are just wrong. The game is amazing, vet zones rules. Plenty of groups, plenty of people to group. Nobody rerolling because have nothing to do.
All well balanced, the game is perfect. No need for a forum, just continue paying the beta game we have.
It is just my imagination, so go ahead and have fun, veterans.
Don't worry, in a few weeks you will be the only ones talking here in your pararell world and knowing that the rest of the community was wrong and people cancelling subs were wrong.
Stay strong! You will always have more vet levels to enjoy and buffed mudcrabs to kill.
Don't be so melodramatic. The game has issues to resolve, but that doesn't mean the state of the game isn't fun, it's just not fun for you - which is fine.
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RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭
haha no, really. Maybe you misunderstood me. I never tried to go against TESO. In fact, I was one of the defenders back in beta times. Maybe you will leave the game before me.So as it seems the only one surprised is me, then don't worry.
Eso will be successful, you will never see this game going f2p.
A lot of people is creating new subs everyday. The whole forums and empty guilds are just wrong. The game is amazing, vet zones rules. Plenty of groups, plenty of people to group. Nobody rerolling because have nothing to do.
All well balanced, the game is perfect. No need for a forum, just continue paying the beta game we have.
It is just my imagination, so go ahead and have fun, veterans.
Don't worry, in a few weeks you will be the only ones talking here in your pararell world and knowing that the rest of the community was wrong and people cancelling subs were wrong.
Stay strong! You will always have more vet levels to enjoy and buffed mudcrabs to kill.
Don't be so melodramatic. The game has issues to resolve, but that doesn't mean the state of the game isn't fun, it's just not fun for you - which is fine.
I WAS having fun. Read my posts and do not point your fingers on my like if I was just trolling.0 -
Csub✭✭✭✭✭Skyrim has more dragons than ESO. Get your stuff together, ZOS!!"The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn2 -
Whisper292✭✭✭dafraorb16_ESO wrote: »
stop eating Nutella pls
Stop eating Nutella??? Them's fightin' words!
The thing is, the OP is comparing apples to oranges. Both Skyrim and ESO are great in their own way, and aside from lore, they don't have a lot to do with each other. Skyrim is my first love, and I'll probably always have a game going (totally addicted to the mods), but that doesn't make me like (or play) ESO any less. I play Left 4 Dead as well, but that doesn't mean I prefer it over the other two.
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Love all, trust few, do wrong to no one. - William Shakespeare0 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Skyrim has more dragons than ESO. Get your stuff together, ZOS!!
And then this...people telling me to explain my opinion (and I did) and then you have posts talking about nutella and nonsense like this.
But seems the pro-nowadaysTESO fans, do not judge post like this one.
Regarding the dovahkids some user said up there...If you want to think I came here from Skyrim...it's ok...Continue in your pararell world, the rest of people is just wrong. The only ones knowing the truth are the ones saying ESO is GREAT.Edited by RazielSR on June 24, 2014 3:13PM0 -
Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can see it, JUST in Steam. Every day (around 50.000-65.000 people playing Skyrim. Nowadays, 3 years later. Enter nexus mods, hundreds of mods everyday.
So, is maybe even today, a lot of time before Skyrim release, being more played than the brand new TESO?
I think yes, and that’s not even normal.
Well you can play your way is Skyrim, like say being a heavy armor 1h and shield user.0 -
Flynch✭✭✭✭Is it not more likely that because ESO is both an MMO and part of the ES series, those that came to ESO who came for the MMO part, may have simply decided to splash out on the other games in the series as well, to entrench themselves and 'catch up' as it were?
Those who are here for the ES part of ESO would have come here MMO or not, i'd imagine. And most likely already own Skyrim et al anyway.0 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Is it not more likely that because ESO is both an MMO and part of the ES series, those that came to ESO who came for the MMO part, may have simply decided to splash out on the other games in the series as well, to entrench themselves and 'catch up' as it were?
Those who are here for the ES part of ESO would have come here MMO or not, i'd imagine. And most likely already own Skyrim et al anyway.
Hey I was talking about the pararell world you live in an ironic way, but with you seems its real...the details I posted are happening since the beginning. Of course being a lot more in the first year. Those 50-65.000 users playing is happening since a year before Skyrim was released, not since april 2014...
Don't worry, I'm blind, you are right.0 -
Flynch✭✭✭✭Is it not more likely that because ESO is both an MMO and part of the ES series, those that came to ESO who came for the MMO part, may have simply decided to splash out on the other games in the series as well, to entrench themselves and 'catch up' as it were?
Those who are here for the ES part of ESO would have come here MMO or not, i'd imagine. And most likely already own Skyrim et al anyway.
Hey I was talking about the pararell world you live in an ironic way, but with you seems its real...the details I posted are happening since the beginning. Of course being a lot more in the first year. Those 50-65.000 users playing is happening since a year before Skyrim was released, not since april 2014...
Don't worry, I'm blind, you are right.
Don't take this as an offence, but I don't know what you're talking about here so i'm going to have to guess
. I simply threw a possible idea as to why it shows more people playing Skyrim recently. And chances are that's due to more people becoming aware of the series from the MMO crowd dipping their toes in the ESO water.
We don't have the sales figures for ESO to compare to at the moment anyway? Or did I miss something?
edit: typoEdited by Flynch on June 24, 2014 3:32PM2 -
Spiritreaver_ESO✭✭✭So as it seems the only one surprised is me, then don't worry.
Eso will be successful, you will never see this game going f2p.
A lot of people is creating new subs everyday. The whole forums and empty guilds are just wrong. The game is amazing, vet zones rules. Plenty of groups, plenty of people to group. Nobody rerolling because have nothing to do.
All well balanced, the game is perfect. No need for a forum, just continue paying the beta game we have.
It is just my imagination, so go ahead and have fun, veterans.
Don't worry, in a few weeks you will be the only ones talking here in your pararell world and knowing that the rest of the community was wrong and people cancelling subs were wrong.
Stay strong! You will always have more vet levels to enjoy and buffed mudcrabs to kill.
I had started to give you the benefit of the doubt until this post.
How is the bolded bit even possible? Unless he quit before you did yesterday."RazielSR wrote:I WAS having fun. Read my posts and do not point your fingers on my like if I was just trolling.
By some definitions, your OP was pretty much setting the stage for this to be a troll thread. And your posts that i quoted above go a long way toward backing up the appearance that was what you were aiming for.Edited by Spiritreaver_ESO on June 24, 2014 3:36PM1 -
joanjett✭✭✭whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭malikwalker_ESO wrote: »So as it seems the only one surprised is me, then don't worry.
Eso will be successful, you will never see this game going f2p.
A lot of people is creating new subs everyday. The whole forums and empty guilds are just wrong. The game is amazing, vet zones rules. Plenty of groups, plenty of people to group. Nobody rerolling because have nothing to do.
All well balanced, the game is perfect. No need for a forum, just continue paying the beta game we have.
It is just my imagination, so go ahead and have fun, veterans.
Don't worry, in a few weeks you will be the only ones talking here in your pararell world and knowing that the rest of the community was wrong and people cancelling subs were wrong.
Stay strong! You will always have more vet levels to enjoy and buffed mudcrabs to kill.
I had started to give you the benefit of the doubt until this post.
How is the bolded bit even possible? Unless he quit before you did yesterday."RazielSR wrote:I WAS having fun. Read my posts and do not point your fingers on my like if I was just trolling.
By some definitions, your OP was pretty much setting the stage for this to be a troll thread. And your posts that i quoted above go a long way toward backing up the appearance that was what you were aiming for.
But that is just in your mind, not mine. Maybe is that you have a little troll in you and are thinking and reading in a bad way about my posts?0 -
SK1TZ0FR3N1K✭✭✭It is not normal that a game that costs maybe 3 times more to produce and that was going to be the AAA mmo is played less than a game using the same franchise and released 3 years ago. It is not normal, if it is, then ZOS should be VERY happy about it.
First, show me the numbers that say less than 65,000 people are playing ESO. Second, 65,000 people is not that much tbh. 65,000 is a small city. I would be willing to bet there are alot more people playing ESO than that. Whether they like it or not is for another thread. Heck, 65,000 people probably live in my small section of the city that I live in, as there are 1.38 million people here.“There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” -Will Rogers1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Whisper292 wrote: »
Because as i told you, you are all right and the wrong ones are the rest of the people saying "bad" things about TESO.0 -
fromtesonlineb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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As I said, youi have no facts to back up this hypothetical so this thread has no useful purpose.fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »
Not sure what "and that's not even normal" means, if you're trying to say more players playing a three-year-old game than a brand new one isn't 'normal', since you have no facts to base you theory on then your conclusion is kind of fatally flawed, no?
It is not normal that a game that costs maybe 3 times more to produce and that was going to be the AAA mmo is played less than a game using the same franchise and released 3 years ago.
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Falmer✭✭✭✭I do love it when players think that they can see ALL the other players in the world that are playing too.
There is this whole concept of instances....
In fact, I had a glitch back in my DC campaign a while ago, where I am pretty sure every player in the world that was experiencing the 'Falchou' flashback dungeon all got dumped into just one instance. There was literally like 400 people in this tiny dungeon making a solid line from the entrance to the boss. You couldn't even see where to go.0 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭SK1TZ0FR3N1K wrote: »
First, show me the numbers that say less than 65,000 people are playing ESO.
First of all, show me the numbers that say more than 65.000 people are playing ESO.
Edited by RazielSR on June 24, 2014 4:16PM1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »
As I said, youi have no facts to back up this hypothetical so this thread has no useful purpose.fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »
Not sure what "and that's not even normal" means, if you're trying to say more players playing a three-year-old game than a brand new one isn't 'normal', since you have no facts to base you theory on then your conclusion is kind of fatally flawed, no?
It is not normal that a game that costs maybe 3 times more to produce and that was going to be the AAA mmo is played less than a game using the same franchise and released 3 years ago.
If you say so...OK.1 -
Digiman✭✭✭✭✭You can see it, JUST in Steam. Every day (around 50.000-65.000 people playing Skyrim. Nowadays, 3 years later. Enter nexus mods, hundreds of mods everyday.
So, is maybe even today, a lot of time before Skyrim release, being more played than the brand new TESO?
I think yes, and that’s not even normal.
Well in two words, STEAM SALE! But honestly, the game doesn't cost anything to play and doesn't go on maintenance or heavy grinding. Also, most ES players are amateur artists and designers and that game is an amazing outlet for such talent.
You can basically use the same argument with ESO for addon developers. If this game was really worth the money they are charging to keep people interested in playing.0 -
Khami✭✭✭✭Bah, I quit playing Skyrim 2 months after release.
Too many bugs and glitches that ruined the game for me.
To this day, I can't touch it.
Compared to ESO, it looks horrible.4 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭You can see it, JUST in Steam. Every day (around 50.000-65.000 people playing Skyrim. Nowadays, 3 years later. Enter nexus mods, hundreds of mods everyday.
So, is maybe even today, a lot of time before Skyrim release, being more played than the brand new TESO?
I think yes, and that’s not even normal.
Well in two words, STEAM SALE! But honestly, the game doesn't cost anything to play and doesn't go on maintenance or heavy grinding. Also, most ES players are amateur artists and designers and that game is an amazing outlet for such talent.
You can basically use the same argument with ESO for addon developers. If this game was really worth the money they are charging to keep people interested in playing.
So it is that easy to explain? I don't think so...
Maybe it would be better to explain why ZOS is not talking about how many active subs they have nowadays.Edited by RazielSR on June 24, 2014 4:24PM0 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bah, I quit playing Skyrim 2 months after release.
Too many bugs and glitches that ruined the game for me.
To this day, I can't touch it.
Compared to ESO, it looks horrible.
With mods, it's a whole different game. My version had a Death Star in the night sky and light sabers.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bah, I quit playing Skyrim 2 months after release.
Too many bugs and glitches that ruined the game for me.
To this day, I can't touch it.
Compared to ESO, it looks horrible.
You should go back and try it. The modding community has made skyrim what it is, It's scores more atmospheric, less buggy, looks better, fixes some gameplay mechanics and adjusts the UI enough to make it a really amazing game.1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Bah, I quit playing Skyrim 2 months after release.
Too many bugs and glitches that ruined the game for me.
To this day, I can't touch it.
Compared to ESO, it looks horrible.
You should go back and try it. The modding community has made skyrim what it is, It's scores more atmospheric, less buggy, looks better, fixes some gameplay mechanics and adjusts the UI enough to make it a really amazing game.
Amazing? ASTONISHING I would say.
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Slash8915✭✭✭✭✭I love Skyrim, don't get me wrong. But in some ways, it seems like the "Call of Duty" of the ES franchise. What I mean by that is, a lot of people started playing Skyrim that never played any other TES games. Hell, a lot of them didn't even know there WERE other TES games. Yet these people try to act like they are lifelong hardcore TES fans. The result is these same people trying to compare every other ES game to Skyrim, and getting pissed when it's not exactly the same.1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭I love Skyrim, don't get me wrong. But in some ways, it seems like the "Call of Duty" of the ES franchise. What I mean by that is, a lot of people started playing Skyrim that never played any other TES games. Hell, a lot of them didn't even know there WERE other TES games. Yet these people try to act like they are lifelong hardcore TES fans. The result is these same people trying to compare every other ES game to Skyrim, and getting pissed when it's not exactly the same.
I understand. I started playing with Daggerfall. But well, this use to happen with every game having more sales in the series.0 -
Slash8915✭✭✭✭✭I love Skyrim, don't get me wrong. But in some ways, it seems like the "Call of Duty" of the ES franchise. What I mean by that is, a lot of people started playing Skyrim that never played any other TES games. Hell, a lot of them didn't even know there WERE other TES games. Yet these people try to act like they are lifelong hardcore TES fans. The result is these same people trying to compare every other ES game to Skyrim, and getting pissed when it's not exactly the same.
I understand. I started playing with Daggerfall. But well, this use to happen with every game having more sales in the series.
I just wonder what it was about Skyrim that brought in so many new people. Marketing? Exposure? What was different about it as opposed to other TES games that made it so popular with new players?1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭I love Skyrim, don't get me wrong. But in some ways, it seems like the "Call of Duty" of the ES franchise. What I mean by that is, a lot of people started playing Skyrim that never played any other TES games. Hell, a lot of them didn't even know there WERE other TES games. Yet these people try to act like they are lifelong hardcore TES fans. The result is these same people trying to compare every other ES game to Skyrim, and getting pissed when it's not exactly the same.
I understand. I started playing with Daggerfall. But well, this use to happen with every game having more sales in the series.
I just wonder what it was about Skyrim that brought in so many new people. Marketing? Exposure? What was different about it as opposed to other TES games that made it so popular with new players?
IMHO, marketing campaing, that fantastic video....and mainly the FREEDOM. And then of course the settings, the fantastic remastered engine that made a lot of people release fantastic mods. So it would be a combination of everything. Beth experience too, they know how to reach everybody, and that's not easy. Some new mechanics, the dragons (that now we all are sick of haha), etc, etc...It is a bit of everything. Beth knows how to do it.
And of course is not as rpg like Morrowind, or even Oblivion. With Oblivion they change a little bit. Are more action-rpg oriented if you just play the main quest. I don't know...then you have mods that can make the game the most hardcore ever (frostfall, etc, etc)...So new players and experienced ones can enjoy the game, even today.
Edited by RazielSR on June 24, 2014 4:41PM1
