Lazy Clannfear

Magdalina · June 2014

I'm a vet 8 sorcerer and I rely a lot on my Clannie to tank enemies for me, it's very convenient(especially seeing as he seems to get a much better health bonus every level than I do), and he's always been bug-free for me.
That was up until recently. I'm unsure when exactly this started, but every once in a while he'll just ignore me and stand there while I fight/die. Sometimes he pitches in in a few seconds, sometimes he doesn't. Resumonning him sometimes fixes it, sometimes doesn't, but I don't usually have time to resummon him in the middle of the battle, anyway, when I had based my strategy on him distracting an enemy for me.

This is ridiculous. Vet trash is stupidly overbuffed, abilities/potions don't work half the time and my pet just ignores me. It's like a bad joke, really.

Anyone else had same problem?

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

This has been seen since release by many, you seem to have been lucky up till now, I saw it before I left Bleakrock on my first Sorc.

freespirit · June 2014

My sorc is VR7 and so far the only problem my little darling has caused me is....... when I summon him too close to a mob, he just charges on in whether I'm ready or not!! He has been called some very choice names recently but I suppose I'd rather this than him doing nothing

Slash8915 · June 2014

Isn't it obvious? He's tired of being the punching bag.

Ashtaris · June 2014

freespirit wrote: »

My sorc is VR7 and so far the only problem my little darling has caused me is....... when I summon him too close to a mob, he just charges on in whether I'm ready or not!! He has been called some very choice names recently but I suppose I'd rather this than him doing nothing

I know what you mean. I summoned Clannie not far from a big Boss when I wasn't exactly ready for the fight yet. He goes charging off and I'm yelling, "NO, NOT YET!!" I had to nuke him before he reached it or I would have been toast.

Taleof2Cities · June 2014

My Clannie has been getting "battle advice" from Lyris ... it seems a lot can be learned about 'passive' fighting skills when you take on your own doppelganger ...

RedMiniStapler · June 2014

this happens quite often.

*aggro'd a group of mobs*
me : Clannfear? I'm getting hammered here!
Clannfear : I just stubbed my toe on that rock back there, it really hurt...
me : I'm dying!
Clannfear : give me a moment!!
me : screw you! Storm Atronach, SAVE MEH!!!!
Storm Atronach : ya know,i would love to, but uh.... do you see that ultimate box? and how it's not flashing? can't help ya there, call me back when you built up ultimate.
me : you sunnuvuh.... *dead*

*resurrected and spawns Clannfear*
Clannfear : I'll avenge you! CHARRRRRRGE!
*aggro's same mobs*
me : I... HATE... YOU!

Magdalina · June 2014

freespirit wrote: »

My sorc is VR7 and so far the only problem my little darling has caused me is....... when I summon him too close to a mob, he just charges on in whether I'm ready or not!! He has been called some very choice names recently but I suppose I'd rather this than him doing nothing

Oh, yeah, he loves doing that, too. Especially after I die and will resummon him after resurrecting. This one's been there a while and is less deadly - I just desummon him before he reaches enemies, back off, turn around and summon again. Usually he doesn't charge then. But if he just decides to ignore me in a fight...uh huh...not much I can do. Except the dying part, that is.

But while sorcerer certainly isn't the most bugged class, it would be very nice to get those fixed, too>.<

ArcaneBlue · June 2014

my clannfear often stops following me.
he doesn't engage in a combat until 10+ seconds into the battle.
he sometimes disappears in the middle of the field for no reason.
he charges in on bosses when I am not ready.
he is not that powerful and can be defeated easily depending on the situation.

...but I still love my clannfear. a lot.

Seravi · June 2014

They removed the latest patch notes for some editing but in the patch coming out today, you will be able to mark a target for your clannfear etc to attack. I believe the notes said hit Y then left click the mouse on the target. Hopefully the notes will be back up soon and you can see what they have about it.

Magdalina · June 2014

Seravi wrote: »

They removed the latest patch notes for some editing but in the patch coming out today, you will be able to mark a target for your clannfear etc to attack. I believe the notes said hit Y then left click the mouse on the target. Hopefully the notes will be back up soon and you can see what they have about it.

That is a very good option, but I don't know if it's going to do anything about this bug. Calling him back when he charges in? Yes. Showing him a target? He might just as well ignore being directed to attack specific target as he now sometimes ignores being auto-directed to attack SOMETHING.
We shall see soon enough, tho=)

Conifur · June 2014

Mine has been bugged since I first cast him. Routinely stands around doing nothing like he is working on some state road construction crew.

raudfsfolley · June 2014

This bug drives me crazy! I'm in a fight, my winged twilight is trying her crunchy best, and what does my clannfear do? Stand there right beside me with the look of, "Need help?" Or better, he'll run up to the mob and then just stand there. Yeah.. at least in this case, he's drawing them, while Wingy and I pick 'em off.

Ashtaris · June 2014

I haven't had too much trouble with my Clannfear, except for the need to go after a mob sometimes when I'm not ready. Usually as soon as I make the first hit, he goes charging off into the crowd. I think of him as my personal tank willing to take the hits up close while I'm trying to do some ranged damage with the staff and other spells. I understand however that the summoned creatures are not very effective once you reach the VR levels, but we will see.

BTW, one thing I've noticed is that if I do a weapon swap with my Clannfear and Twilight active, they are nuked. Is this normal? And how do you prevent it? Keep the same summon creature icons on both sets?

Yam_of_the_Center · June 2014

Ashtaris wrote: »

Is this normal? And how do you prevent it? Keep the same summon creature icons on both sets?

Yep.

Magdalina · June 2014

Ashtaris wrote: »

I haven't had too much trouble with my Clannfear, except for the need to go after a mob sometimes when I'm not ready. Usually as soon as I make the first hit, he goes charging off into the crowd. I think of him as my personal tank willing to take the hits up close while I'm trying to do some ranged damage with the staff and other spells. I understand however that the summoned creatures are not very effective once you reach the VR levels, but we will see.

BTW, one thing I've noticed is that if I do a weapon swap with my Clannfear and Twilight active, they are nuked. Is this normal? And how do you prevent it? Keep the same summon creature icons on both sets?

As has already been said, yes. My Clannie is on both sets usually.

Btw, does anyone know if same goes for Atronach? If I summon him and then switch to another set of abilities with another ulti, will he still be there? I keep forgetting to check that one xD

Also, far as vet content goes, I like my Clannie still. His damage sucks(and doesn't seem to scale with level, tho he does seem to be getting a nice health boost with every level up), but as a tank he's priceless. Aside from the bugs part. Twilight now...well, she dies from one missed heavy hit in veteran, so go figure. I have seen a pretty cool sorc running around with both tho, she was pretty awesome - we pwned some world boosses together, so guess there're ways;)

Ageless · June 2014

Yup, since patch 1.2.3 Timmy, my Clannfear will follow me for a while and then lose interest in what we're doing. He'll just despawn without me knowing it. I don't even hear the sound of him leaving, he just leaves.
I notice it because my magicka is 100%. Thank the Nine for the Foundry tactical Combat add-on showing me that.

And then there's the times that he's no longer on my side in fights.
Have a fight upcoming?
With a bear? Timmy charges in.
With a troll? Timmy charges in.
With a pack of wolves? Timmy charges in.
With a herd of crocs? Timmy charges in.

With any daedra? Timmy watches on, preferably from a distance.
With a humanoid NPC? Timmy stays by my side and watches me die.
Time and time again.

Tammy, my Restoring Twilight, will attack whatever gets in her area of interest. Until she also vanishes without saying goodbye. Also happens every now and then. I switch staves, Tammy disappears. And no, that's not because I don't have her on both staves action keys. Both Timmy and Tammy take up keys 4 and 5 on each staff. No, she just leaves. I don't know, getting an ice cream when she wants to? Shrug.

One thing I have noticed since 1.2.3 is that the Twilights have a new bathing suit on. They're now more distinguished, and (sadly?) less naked. Perhaps that she finds that disturbing and so no longer wants to be visible to all while requiring to wear that suit. Who can blame her?

Cously · June 2014

Don't rely on pets. I always have Twilight Mat and Clannie on my PVE adventures, but there's only so much they can do. Honestly the heal of the mat is awesome and saved my ass 90% of times and clannie was able to tank *Spoiler* that last boss on main quest by himself whilst I just sat and watched Game of Thrones. He dies, resummon, dies, resummon, fight done.

That much said I don't rely on them, it's like an additional flavour, a wild card. Don't use them in PVP, ever. I can guarantee to do any quest or public/solo dungeon with pets without dying but have a hard time doing it without pets, still I don't rely on them because said bugs.

To answer the OP, your problem likely related to the new commands added to pets on latest update. Fiddle in the patch notes to see a solution. I never had this problem before or after the patch, also didn't find what the *** they said about press mouse + Y, what the *** is Y? The key? I didn't try afraid of bug me out.

Yes, they seriously need to fix the reckless clannie behaviour, as work around summon him last.

Eiregirl · June 2014

I have had problems with goofball, my clannfear since I first put him on my action bar at level 5 give or take.

Use to he would often just stand there and laugh as a bunch of mobs beat the crap out of me. There is no telling how many thousands of gold he has cost me in repair bills. I submitted several tickets on this problem with the reply that it was a known issue they were working on.

Now he randomly disappears when I start attacking a mob and I have to waste magicka to summon him back not to mention the fact that each pet takes away 10% of your magicka the moment you put a skill point in to get them. I have checked and it does not matter whether you have them on your action bar or not the magicka is gone.

I might just get rid of the useless creature but he is cute in an ugly kind of way. Resetting my skill points to get rid of him will cost thousands of gold but the fact is I should not have to because he is not working as he is suppose to. I think we should be refunded the skill points for the pets.

DrywFiltiarn · June 2014

The clannfear seems to be buggy last couple of days indeed. I'm having a lot of issues with it as well. Like you say, the clannfear just standing around, doing nothing while in combat, sometimes he just disappears on me when I just start a fight and he hasn't even gone into combat yet (so it didn't die, that's for sure). And sometimes I need to summon him 2 or 3 times before I actually get him.

AngryWolf · June 2014

Probably has to do with the command system they put in place. I haven't tried it, but hopefully there is a command to put them back to normal.

DogFaceInBananaPatch · March 2015

Magdalina wrote: »

every once in a while he'll just ignore me and stand there while I fight/die. Sometimes he pitches in in a few seconds, sometimes he doesn't.

SnarkyQB wrote: »

my clannfear often stops following me.
he doesn't engage in a combat until 10+ seconds into the battle.

Is there an EST when this is going to be resolved? My clannfear often just decided it no longer wants to attack and will NOT ever attack again until it's unsummoned and resummoned.

Kragorn · March 2015

No ETA at all, seems ZOS have either given up trying to fix it or simply don't consider it worth bothering .. which is more than a little ironic considering 1.6 nerfed sorcs into largely use-a-pet-or-rolll-something-else territory.

Panda244 · March 2015

He derped.

Thelon · March 2015

Hah! I love this thread, full of pet sorcs. I've been working extensively on my Pet build, but haven't run into the issue as often as some of you describe. I'll keep a close eye on this and see if anything changed with the recent patch.

If you're looking for an experienced theory crafter's advice on pet builds, the link is in my signature.

Clannfear rawr!