can we please have an open world PvP server now?

Rylana · June 2014

PF1901 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

OP, the last thing you want is to turn a player like me loose on an open world PvP server.

Dead serious. I was a player killer before the term PK was even popular.

I would kill noobs, I would kill afkers, I would kill people doing a quest, I would kill people trying to beat a really tough boss, and I would do it all just because I could. Everyone is a target, everyone is a mark. Period.

Screw honor, screw fair play. In a world in which id fully expect anyone to be doing the same, id be a ruthless destroyer of everyone I saw.

You have no idea how evil open world really is until youve actually played it. I say me, but there are so many like me, you would be opening up a pandoras box of grief the likes of which youve never once experienced before.

Just the kind of guy one needs to spawn camp from dusk 'till dawn.

Youd have to kill me first.

Shaun98ca2 · June 2014

Rylana wrote: »

PF1901 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

OP, the last thing you want is to turn a player like me loose on an open world PvP server.

Dead serious. I was a player killer before the term PK was even popular.

I would kill noobs, I would kill afkers, I would kill people doing a quest, I would kill people trying to beat a really tough boss, and I would do it all just because I could. Everyone is a target, everyone is a mark. Period.

Screw honor, screw fair play. In a world in which id fully expect anyone to be doing the same, id be a ruthless destroyer of everyone I saw.

You have no idea how evil open world really is until youve actually played it. I say me, but there are so many like me, you would be opening up a pandoras box of grief the likes of which youve never once experienced before.

Just the kind of guy one needs to spawn camp from dusk 'till dawn.

Youd have to kill me first.

Gauntlets been thrown meet in Cyrodiil alone at such and such time at such place, spectators welcomed.

Best 2 out of 3....Rezers required.

Polyscikosis · June 2014

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

PF1901 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

OP, the last thing you want is to turn a player like me loose on an open world PvP server.

Dead serious. I was a player killer before the term PK was even popular.

I would kill noobs, I would kill afkers, I would kill people doing a quest, I would kill people trying to beat a really tough boss, and I would do it all just because I could. Everyone is a target, everyone is a mark. Period.

Screw honor, screw fair play. In a world in which id fully expect anyone to be doing the same, id be a ruthless destroyer of everyone I saw.

You have no idea how evil open world really is until youve actually played it. I say me, but there are so many like me, you would be opening up a pandoras box of grief the likes of which youve never once experienced before.

Just the kind of guy one needs to spawn camp from dusk 'till dawn.

Youd have to kill me first.

Gauntlets been thrown meet in Cyrodiil alone at such and such time at such place, spectators welcomed.

Best 2 out of 3....Rezers required.

unless you are BOTH the same alliance...lol

wllstrt75b14_ESO · June 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

those of us who prefer and cannot live without an open world PvP server have waited and been silent about this since launch. but i know for me and many others that were here during beta and long even before beta started, have been asking for TESO, (eso), elderscrolls online to allow an open world PvP server for those of us who want to play that way. i requested it for almost 2 years on the only forum we could make our voice heard IE: the bethesda forums, as well as on eso facebook, and also thier eso twitter before eso even launched.
now that the general population has had thier fun and playtime and are WELL into veteran levels, how about allowing us open world PvP lovers. to have our own server.

please

did ESO ever say or promise an open world server? NO
Why would you buy a game that never claimed an open world PvP server like you are requesting?

I mean seriously if it is a must in a game for you why would you spend the time and money in a game that had no intentions of doing this?

The whole PvP design revolved around RvR from day 1?
Then you come into the forums and demand this?

I fail to understand your reasoning and logic and I am really curious.

Shaun98ca2 · June 2014

Polyscikosis wrote: »

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

PF1901 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

OP, the last thing you want is to turn a player like me loose on an open world PvP server.

Dead serious. I was a player killer before the term PK was even popular.

I would kill noobs, I would kill afkers, I would kill people doing a quest, I would kill people trying to beat a really tough boss, and I would do it all just because I could. Everyone is a target, everyone is a mark. Period.

Screw honor, screw fair play. In a world in which id fully expect anyone to be doing the same, id be a ruthless destroyer of everyone I saw.

You have no idea how evil open world really is until youve actually played it. I say me, but there are so many like me, you would be opening up a pandoras box of grief the likes of which youve never once experienced before.

Just the kind of guy one needs to spawn camp from dusk 'till dawn.

Youd have to kill me first.

Gauntlets been thrown meet in Cyrodiil alone at such and such time at such place, spectators welcomed.

Best 2 out of 3....Rezers required.

unless you are BOTH the same alliance...lol

OH GOD lets hope they aren't in the same alliance.

SFBryan18 · June 2014

So most people just ignore the idea of having an option to turn it on and off. K. All problems with the implementation can be easily solved by toggle options but most of you would not try to negotiate and compromise. Pretty ignorant.

One example is the alliance issue. Easily solved by setting your default faction on when you turn friendly combat on, and setting the local alliance when you turn friendly combat off. This isn't a black and white, yes or no idea. There would be many ways to improve pvp in the game without breaking the pve, and looking at all the possibilities instead of just shooting it down is how things get improvements.

PF1901 · June 2014

zhevon wrote: »

Gisgo wrote: »

It would be awful and open the door to all kinds of exploits.
Man up and welcome the risk, its part of the fun.

PF1901 wrote: »

zhevon wrote: »

bugulu wrote: »

A PvP toggle on open world PvP would be great.
Those who do not wish to participate in that simply don't toggle it on.
As another user above me said, use the phasing for this. If you have it on, you are phased to the same zone as other players who also have it toggled on.

I would be awesome to have a PvP toggle on Cyrodiil so us non-PvPs can wander around without getting ganked.

As silly an idea as asking for an open world pvp server.

I really need to start using emoticons - so they get that its a joke.

Don't back down now.

PS. You got me there.

Hiply · June 2014

Rylana wrote: »

PF1901 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

OP, the last thing you want is to turn a player like me loose on an open world PvP server.

Dead serious. I was a player killer before the term PK was even popular.

I would kill noobs, I would kill afkers, I would kill people doing a quest, I would kill people trying to beat a really tough boss, and I would do it all just because I could. Everyone is a target, everyone is a mark. Period.

Screw honor, screw fair play. In a world in which id fully expect anyone to be doing the same, id be a ruthless destroyer of everyone I saw.

You have no idea how evil open world really is until youve actually played it. I say me, but there are so many like me, you would be opening up a pandoras box of grief the likes of which youve never once experienced before.

Just the kind of guy one needs to spawn camp from dusk 'till dawn.

Youd have to kill me first.

Pretty ignorant. Looking at all the possibilities instead of just shooting it down is how things get improvements. [/quote]

Shooting down suggestions that are unworkable, overly expensive, and catering to a minority of people who want to change the game into something it was never designed for is how we get improvements...to things that need improving. This isn't one of those.

hk11 · June 2014

I am all for open world PvP. Im not sure how that would work out in ESO considering that when you get to another faction's area you are already level 49.

Hiply · June 2014

FrauPerchta wrote: »

Hiply wrote: »

FrauPerchta wrote: »

Will never happen. And if it did happen it would be the same lame PvP system currently in place. If you're going to do PvP then you need towns with NPC guards that kill PvP'ers as soon as they are seen (depending on their world rep) Also if I kill you I get to loot your corpse of anything I wish before it rots into the ground. Without at least those two things PvP is for wussy wannabe PvP'ers

You've aptly demonstrated one of the many reasons this is a bad idea...thanks for dropping by.

This is how PvP used to be in MMOs till all the whining cry baby peepee pants constantly moaned and groaned about losing stuff when killed. Don't have the boyz to play PvP as intended then get off the train because otherwise you are just a wannabe.

I cut my PvP baby teeth on Darktide. There is nothing about cut-throat PKing you have to teach me.

That isn't this. That server came with a warning popup which basically said "abandon hope all ye who enter here, there are no rules and we wouldn't enforce them on this server if there were.", so you can put your e-peen back in your short pants now. Been there, done that, burned the t-shirt.

This game is not that, it's not what people bought this one for, and it's not going to be remade into a hardcore PK-lover's wet dream. Get over it and go find one where you can corpse-camp noobs to your heart's content so you can feel like a "real" PKer. This ain't it.

kieso · June 2014

anyone who played AC Darktide remember that UA melee guy named OG? good memories..

GreySix · June 2014

Hiply wrote: »

That isn't this. That server came with a warning popup which basically said "abandon hope all ye who enter here, there are no rules and we wouldn't enforce them on this server if there were."

Don't see why ESO developers couldn't include a separate instance for those types; then they could kill off each other, camp each other's corpses, and strut about all they wanted, out of sight and out of mind for those of us who want nothing to do with them.

FrauPerchta · June 2014

kieso wrote: »

anyone who played AC Darktide remember that UA melee guy named OG? good memories..

Darktide was fun at first.

Speaking of AC they had PvP available on all servers, if you wanted to PvP you changed your status to Red/PvP then hunted around for another Red/PvP player to kill. Problem was one of my characters was bugged and often just switch Red for no reason. Always loved the arguments in Sub that ended with 'Go Red mofo'

tim99 · January 2020

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Cirantille · January 2020

6 years old necro

wolfbone · January 2020

no. pvp open world would be terrible. I'm guessing you never played fallout 76 when that launched and saw how *** it was. people would attack you for no reason what so ever, and hound you to hell and back just to take your caps. a open world pvp server would seriously screw the game up, and we'd end up with fallout 76 -eso edition.

Iccotak · January 2020

The reason they didn't implement Open World PvP in Tamriel was because it caused far too many balance issues.
Open world PvP exists in Cyrodil & Imperial City

Now if you wanted another DLC like Imperial City that'd be another thing

TheFM · January 2020

The irony. People want the Devs to spend tons of time on redoing all dungeons for their story mode, but when we ask for something it's " no cuz would take too much time ". Equality is pesky apparently

Geekgirl · January 2020

I feel that the justice system - which we have been waiting for for quite a while - will help scratch this itch.

It is not the same as over world PVP, I know. The hard truth is there are not enough players to want constant over world PVP to keep it sustainable.

Have a look at WoW and how their PVP realms saw attrition until they just closed them all. On Classic the PVP realms are already imbalanced and the PVPers are unhappy.

This is how it almost always goes, long term. As an investment, a PVP server wouldn't be sustainable/profitable in the long run.

The Justice System, which promised game-supported/action-supported PVP, would have opened up a sort of open world PVP via bounties, and then the folk who truly love the hunt could get to do this, all of the time, and reap rewards for doing so. The hunted players would have actively participated in activities whose outcomes could mean the player is flagged and hunted by others, for profit.

I think the quickest way to get part, not all I know, of what you want is to push for the Justice System that they are purportedly already working on.

Ladislao · January 2020

Geekgirl wrote: »

I feel that the justice system - which we have been waiting for for quite a while - will help scratch this itch.

It is not the same as over world PVP, I know. The hard truth is there are not enough players to want constant over world PVP to keep it sustainable.

Have a look at WoW and how their PVP realms saw attrition until they just closed them all. On Classic the PVP realms are already imbalanced and the PVPers are unhappy.

This is how it almost always goes, long term. As an investment, a PVP server wouldn't be sustainable/profitable in the long run.

The Justice System, which promised game-supported/action-supported PVP, would have opened up a sort of open world PVP via bounties, and then the folk who truly love the hunt could get to do this, all of the time, and reap rewards for doing so. The hunted players would have actively participated in activities whose outcomes could mean the player is flagged and hunted by others, for profit.

I think the quickest way to get part, not all I know, of what you want is to push for the Justice System that they are purportedly already working on.

The Justice System was officially canceled a few years ago. And I doubt they will ever return to this.

essi2 · January 2020

No, it's not worth the investment of time and money to make and maintain.

Iccotak · January 2020

@Geekgirl
The PvP justice system was taken out for balance reasons.

They ran into too many problems during internal testing.

FierceSam · January 2020

Well necroed

And, no, we don’t need open world PvP

Geekgirl · January 2020

Iccotak wrote: »

@Geekgirl
The PvP justice system was taken out for balance reasons.

They ran into too many problems during internal testing.

Bah!

I had missed this. See? This is unfortunate. Those unbalanced issues crop up continuously in PVP, which is partially why I think it's so hard to maintain something that everyone remains happy with - both across PVP and PVE.

It kind of stinks when part of the player base can't play the way they'd prefer, but again, I have yet to see overland PVP work well enough long-term in a game designed initially for a PVE focus.

SpacemanSpiff1 · January 2020

Cirantille wrote: »

6 years old necro

at least they used the search function. that's a small victory for the forum community

Alinhbo_Tyaka · January 2020

This is what happens when you bring necromancy to a game. Things that should be dead don't stay dead.

Zelos · January 2020

Can we not gravedig posts from 6 years ago please.... you absolute idiot.

Sevn · January 2020

TheFM wrote: »

The irony. People want the Devs to spend tons of time on redoing all dungeons for their story mode, but when we ask for something it's " no cuz would take too much time ". Equality is pesky apparently

Not even comparable and you know it. Spending resources on a tiny portion of the population is not comparable in any way. Look at the available numbers and you'll see you're a tiny fraction of the population. I'm pretty sure Zos has more data than we have and what we have doesn't bode well for your group.

Dusk_Coven · January 2020

I'd rather see Asia / Oceania get their own server first.

Wherever you put down a single server for PvP, more than half the world will have unacceptable ping compared to those close to it and won't bother going there.

ZOS_Volpe · January 2020

Greetings,

We have closed this topic as it was originally created in 2014 and the information contained within may longer be relevant to the game. In many cases, it's better to create a new thread on a topic that you want to discuss as opposed to bumping one that is rather old.

Thank you for your understanding.