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can we please have an open world PvP server now?
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Hiply✭✭✭OP, the last thing you want is to turn a player like me loose on an open world PvP server.
Dead serious. I was a player killer before the term PK was even popular.
I would kill noobs, I would kill afkers, I would kill people doing a quest, I would kill people trying to beat a really tough boss, and I would do it all just because I could. Everyone is a target, everyone is a mark. Period.
Screw honor, screw fair play. In a world in which id fully expect anyone to be doing the same, id be a ruthless destroyer of everyone I saw.
You have no idea how evil open world really is until youve actually played it. I say me, but there are so many like me, you would be opening up a pandoras box of grief the likes of which youve never once experienced before.
I started my PK experiences on Darktide, in Asheron's Call. I get it. You sound like you did too.0 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Don't see any problem with an open PvP server.
Give players choice.Crotchety Old Man Guild
"Hey you, get off my lawn!"0 -
Morticielle✭✭✭
I usually play on PvP-Servers too for the same reasons you mentioned. But I can accept that Zenimax has made a decision for an Megaserver without Open-PvP. And they won't bring an Open-PvP-Server because the costs are to high in relation to possible earnings. But PvP-junkies can't understand this, as we can see in this thread.Not always in the mood for it but some of the most fun gaming I've ever done was open world PvP.Lady Morticielle d'Aragòn |VR12| Sorcerer | PvP Rank 21 (Major Grade I) | EU-Megaserver | AD
Subscription cancelled due to the following facts:
- Zenimax implements more bugs from patch to patch
- Zenimax does not care about the increasing instability of the game. People have more and more crashes Fix of memory bug decreased number of crashes considerably
- Zenimax has still not fully fixed the fps drops they (!) implemented with patch1.2.3
- Zenimax does nothing to fix the massive ability lags in PvP
- Zenimax gives more attention to unnecassary 'content' like dyes for armors than fixing issues
- In patchnotes Zenimax lies about bugs allegedly fixed
- Zenimax has no plan as to how balance population in Cyrodiil campaigns
- Support is ineffective and does not even speak in a way one can linguistically understand3 -
Lodestar✭✭✭✭
Actually not so sure, people who stop subbing are still posting.
At any rate, what he meant, was that it is a matter of resource management. With a good number of things requiring urgent attention, is taking on something like this, for a game that was never meant to have it a worthwhile?
It will not stop there, devs will have to constantly monitor, and change things there to make it fun. And for such a minority that would just go elsewhere after not getting what they wanted. Case in point. We have seen comments like many players would like it. But, these many players have these things in games designed around that premise. Yet here they are, demanding it here to be shoehorned on.4 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Do we have hard numbers for those who want PvP only play, vice those who want PvE play? I don't think we do, especially in light of the fact that ZOS releases no such data.
Keep in mind that a forum poll isn't indicative of overall player preference.Edited by GreySix on June 20, 2014 1:10PMCrotchety Old Man Guild
"Hey you, get off my lawn!"0 -
Reldun✭NO. In any MMO PvPr's are the minority. A minority that barks loudly, makes constant demands, causes changes across the board to all players, and no matter what they are given are never satisfied with it.
The less they are catered to the better off everyone else is. Treat them like mushrooms.5 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
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Yes I am, and not for an open-world PvP game either...thanks for pointing that out.
You're paying for whatever ZOS regurgitates into your patched game, whether you approve of the patched content or not - including PvP-only server/instance, if they decided to implement it.Crotchety Old Man Guild
"Hey you, get off my lawn!"0 -
AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »In my opinion they will not create another megaserver. If anything the US and EU will merge
While I agree they won't create another server, merging the two megaservers would probably cause a mass EU exodus.
As would forcing open-world PVP on everyone, if they make open-world PVP a possibility, they need to give us an opt out toggle. And if they do create that toggle for God's sake don't make it reversible by us accidently attacking another player, I hated that in Swtor.Edited by AlexDougherty on June 20, 2014 1:41PMPeople believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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zhevon✭✭✭✭
I would be awesome to have a PvP toggle on Cyrodiil so us non-PvPs can wander around without getting ganked.A PvP toggle on open world PvP would be great.
Those who do not wish to participate in that simply don't toggle it on.
As another user above me said, use the phasing for this. If you have it on, you are phased to the same zone as other players who also have it toggled on.1 -
Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭
I would be awesome to have a PvP toggle on Cyrodiil so us non-PvPs can wander around without getting ganked.A PvP toggle on open world PvP would be great.
Those who do not wish to participate in that simply don't toggle it on.
As another user above me said, use the phasing for this. If you have it on, you are phased to the same zone as other players who also have it toggled on.
It would be awful and open the door to all kinds of exploits.
Man up and welcome the risk, its part of the fun.
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AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
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I would be awesome to have a PvP toggle on Cyrodiil so us non-PvPs can wander around without getting ganked.A PvP toggle on open world PvP would be great.
Those who do not wish to participate in that simply don't toggle it on.
As another user above me said, use the phasing for this. If you have it on, you are phased to the same zone as other players who also have it toggled on.
It would be awful and open the door to all kinds of exploits.
Man up and welcome the risk, its part of the fun.
No, I don't do open-world PVP, and if you tell me to man up, I'll tell you something unprintable in response.
I am a guy, but that man up rubbish just peeves me off, it's the sign of a weak arguement.Edited by AlexDougherty on June 20, 2014 1:48PMPeople believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
Wizard's tenth rule2 -
AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And you getting nervous about it is the sign i wasnt that wrong.
No, I hate open world PVP, it's favoured by people who only do PVP, I want to explore and do the quests, PVP is way down on the list for me, and the current system of PVP is fine for that.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
Wizard's tenth rule2 -
kieso✭✭✭✭✭
✭OP, the last thing you want is to turn a player like me loose on an open world PvP server.
Dead serious. I was a player killer before the term PK was even popular.
I would kill noobs, I would kill afkers, I would kill people doing a quest, I would kill people trying to beat a really tough boss, and I would do it all just because I could. Everyone is a target, everyone is a mark. Period.
Screw honor, screw fair play. In a world in which id fully expect anyone to be doing the same, id be a ruthless destroyer of everyone I saw.
You have no idea how evil open world really is until youve actually played it. I say me, but there are so many like me, you would be opening up a pandoras box of grief the likes of which youve never once experienced before.
I started my PK experiences on Darktide, in Asheron's Call. I get it. You sound like you did too.
wow me too!
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kieso✭✭✭✭✭
✭Morticielle wrote: »
I usually play on PvP-Servers too for the same reasons you mentioned. But I can accept that Zenimax has made a decision for an Megaserver without Open-PvP. And they won't bring an Open-PvP-Server because the costs are to high in relation to possible earnings. But PvP-junkies can't understand this, as we can see in this thread.Not always in the mood for it but some of the most fun gaming I've ever done was open world PvP.
This ^ Exactly this.1 -
Hiply✭✭✭
Yes I am, and not for an open-world PvP game either...thanks for pointing that out.
You're paying for whatever ZOS regurgitates into your patched game, whether you approve of the patched content or not - including PvP-only server/instance, if they decided to implement it.
I'm paying for whatever I decide to pay for...and when the game goes in a direction I don't agree with, I'll stop. I hope that's clear enough for you.
I don't want money being wasted...yes, wasted...on this initiative when the core game's functionality, balance, and content scaling are as lacking as the are right now.
So no, you pay for it. Collect the market demographics that show this to be a net gain, prove that the juice is worth the squeeze and that there will be no negative impact on the majority who are paying the bills.2 -
FrauPerchta✭✭✭Will never happen. And if it did happen it would be the same lame PvP system currently in place. If you're going to do PvP then you need towns with NPC guards that kill PvP'ers as soon as they are seen (depending on their world rep) Also if I kill you I get to loot your corpse of anything I wish before it rots into the ground. Without at least those two things PvP is for wussy wannabe PvP'ers0
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Hiply✭✭✭FrauPerchta wrote: »Will never happen. And if it did happen it would be the same lame PvP system currently in place. If you're going to do PvP then you need towns with NPC guards that kill PvP'ers as soon as they are seen (depending on their world rep) Also if I kill you I get to loot your corpse of anything I wish before it rots into the ground. Without at least those two things PvP is for wussy wannabe PvP'ers
You've aptly demonstrated one of the many reasons this is a bad idea...thanks for dropping by.Edited by Hiply on June 20, 2014 2:18PM1 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭FrauPerchta wrote: »Will never happen. And if it did happen it would be the same lame PvP system currently in place. If you're going to do PvP then you need towns with NPC guards that kill PvP'ers as soon as they are seen (depending on their world rep) Also if I kill you I get to loot your corpse of anything I wish before it rots into the ground. Without at least those two things PvP is for wussy wannabe PvP'ers
You've aptly demonstrated one of the many reasons this is a bad idea...thanks for dropping by.
If everyone (or most) on an all-PvP server/instance prefers the same (or similar) things ... why?Crotchety Old Man Guild
"Hey you, get off my lawn!"0 -
Lodestar✭✭✭✭Do we have hard numbers for those who want PvP only play, vice those who want PvE play? I don't think we do, especially in light of the fact that ZOS releases no such data.
Keep in mind that a forum poll isn't indicative of overall player preference.
No, I have years of previous experience, of seeing this debate migrate from forum to forum. Always a small vocal minority. Always mentioning how wonderful this type of game is, and sometimes give examples of them, but fail to mention why they don't play them.1 -
Hiply✭✭✭Do we have hard numbers for those who want PvP only play, vice those who want PvE play? I don't think we do, especially in light of the fact that ZOS releases no such data.
Keep in mind that a forum poll isn't indicative of overall player preference.
No, I have years of previous experience, of seeing this debate migrate from forum to forum. Always a small vocal minority. Always mentioning how wonderful this type of game is, and sometimes give examples of them, but fail to mention why they don't play them.
"If only this car I bought was a truck!"1 -
PF1901✭✭✭
As silly an idea as asking for an open world pvp server.
I would be awesome to have a PvP toggle on Cyrodiil so us non-PvPs can wander around without getting ganked.A PvP toggle on open world PvP would be great.
Those who do not wish to participate in that simply don't toggle it on.
As another user above me said, use the phasing for this. If you have it on, you are phased to the same zone as other players who also have it toggled on.Edited by PF1901 on June 20, 2014 4:47PM0 -
PF1901✭✭✭
Just the kind of guy one needs to spawn camp from dusk 'till dawn.OP, the last thing you want is to turn a player like me loose on an open world PvP server.
Dead serious. I was a player killer before the term PK was even popular.
I would kill noobs, I would kill afkers, I would kill people doing a quest, I would kill people trying to beat a really tough boss, and I would do it all just because I could. Everyone is a target, everyone is a mark. Period.
Screw honor, screw fair play. In a world in which id fully expect anyone to be doing the same, id be a ruthless destroyer of everyone I saw.
You have no idea how evil open world really is until youve actually played it. I say me, but there are so many like me, you would be opening up a pandoras box of grief the likes of which youve never once experienced before.0 -
zhevon✭✭✭✭It would be awful and open the door to all kinds of exploits.
Man up and welcome the risk, its part of the fun.
I really need to start using emoticons - so they get that its a joke.
As silly an idea as asking for an open world pvp server.
I would be awesome to have a PvP toggle on Cyrodiil so us non-PvPs can wander around without getting ganked.A PvP toggle on open world PvP would be great.
Those who do not wish to participate in that simply don't toggle it on.
As another user above me said, use the phasing for this. If you have it on, you are phased to the same zone as other players who also have it toggled on.
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'd imagine the real reason why you wont ever see this is because there are no ways to cross into the rivals factions zones right now. They would need to code entirely new rules for letting you choose to enter a VR version or a normal version.
Also open world PVP only encourages ganking of low level defenceless players who would stand no chance against a VR12 PVP player (as has been seen in Cyrodiil). Better options for them and the community/game would be to make Cyrodiil more worth while as a zone for PVP or adding new adventure zones which have a VR requirements and are access by all factions at the same time with PVP flagged on.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."0
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