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ESO wants us to hate this game
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isengrimb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭How do you pick up this quest to kill Bal anyway? I hit 50/VR1, and no prophet; I went to the Harbourage, no quest. But I haven't finished all of Coldharbour yet, I'm just doing the orchard so far (at the quest Harvest Heart). Do I have to work my way through the rest of the CH quests to get the Bal quest?
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DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »How do you pick up this quest to kill Bal anyway? I hit 50/VR1, and no prophet; I went to the Harbourage, no quest. But I haven't finished all of Coldharbour yet, I'm just doing the orchard so far (at the quest Harvest Heart). Do I have to work my way through the rest of the CH quests to get the Bal quest?
Yes, you have to save Hollow City and then march north.0 -
AelyinESO✭✭✭It's not so hard to kill Molag since you know your build, and have all gears updated.
I was playing with a SORC.
There's a lot of videos that explain how to kill him, and for me was one of the best fight in the game! an Epic Fight ('till I reach VR Zone, and become Boring Stage).- IF you're playing with a SORC, you need to use a Restoration Staff (second weapon switch), to recover your Magicka and Health while he's trying to reach you;
- When Titans appears you need to block (in front of them) to reverter their lighting power to them and kill fast;
- After it, you just need to "orchestrate" till he dies.
- Take a Time and some time, but you can beat it.
- Trying to kill him using another classes, is the same ... just make sure you're using the right skills powers, a good weapon and "protection skills".
- Don't forget to buy some Health Potions and Repairs Kits.
- Videos Links: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzWQtcscgOE, www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BVlCk-oSis and you can get more typing: "how to kill molag bal elder scrolls online in your Search Provider"
I hope this can help you!, unfortunately you need to kill him to access the Veteran Content.
Edited by AelyinESO on June 17, 2014 12:40PMNA PC Server - CP810 - Played Since Beta 2014, but left for 4 years, coz games got unbalancing, boring and too much expensive (still?)
- MagSorc (50) - DPS
- MagTem (50) - Healer
- StamDK (50) - Tank
- StamNecro (50) - DPS
- StamTem (developing) - DPS
- MagNecro (developing) - DPS
- MagWard (developing) - Healer
- Stamblade (developing) - DPS
"Stop nerfing Sorcerers please"
"Stop putting most interesting items inside a lucky Crate costing money"0 -
isengrimb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »How do you pick up this quest to kill Bal anyway? I hit 50/VR1, and no prophet; I went to the Harbourage, no quest. But I haven't finished all of Coldharbour yet, I'm just doing the orchard so far (at the quest Harvest Heart). Do I have to work my way through the rest of the CH quests to get the Bal quest?
Yes, you have to save Hollow City and then march north.
Ok. I saved the city, made a lot of new friends, and yeah, I'm on the northward push now. I just have to get past those damn harvesters, and the undead that follow them and get me via exhaustion. I guess if I keep trying, I'll get past it, like everything else so far.
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DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »How do you pick up this quest to kill Bal anyway? I hit 50/VR1, and no prophet; I went to the Harbourage, no quest. But I haven't finished all of Coldharbour yet, I'm just doing the orchard so far (at the quest Harvest Heart). Do I have to work my way through the rest of the CH quests to get the Bal quest?
Yes, you have to save Hollow City and then march north.
Ok. I saved the city, made a lot of new friends, and yeah, I'm on the northward push now. I just have to get past those damn harvesters, and the undead that follow them and get me via exhaustion. I guess if I keep trying, I'll get past it, like everything else so far.
Just sneak past them, I did
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Lunerdog✭✭✭✭✭Just done him with my Khajiit DK using dual wield and found it easier than I was expecting, have mapped my abilities to the spare buttons on my mouse (Razer Naga Hex) which means I can keep my other paws on the WASD keys.
He turns quite slowly which means you can stay behind him and avoid most of his attacks until he tries to jump on your head, then it's dodge time.
As others have said, some trash mobs in the Vet zones hit harder and faster than old Molag.0 -
AinGeal✭✭✭floweringmind wrote: »FIX THE *** GAME
Did it first try with a Medium Armor + DW Nightblade. One of the weakest setups at the time.
Learn to *** Play2 -
Hiply✭✭✭Thechemicals wrote: »leonardo.contrerasviub17_ESO wrote: »Shaun98ca2 wrote: »Final battle sounds Epic. Sorta like fighting against a Daedric Prince.
it's not even epic... I felt like I was hitting a small child with a stick.
Bs, you are no prodigy. Everyone who did this fight for the first time went to google or ran the whole fight. How do i know this? Because i know the design mechanics and phases of this fight on a statistical level. There are things you can and cant do. So don't try to act like you or anyone here steamrolled Molag Bag *first time you met him.
I beat MB the first time, without google or the forums. I did not, however, steamroll him. Resto-staff, full cloth templar. I kited a lot, I LoS'd a lot, I kept his big ugly mug on fire, and I was enjoyably amped up the whole time.
Most enjoyable fight in the game so far for me, it felt epic.
Started VRs, ran into two beetles, died in 10 seconds. Did not feel epic.1 -
WilliamTee✭✭✭ESO wants us to hate this game
Not true. They just want us to be uncomfortable enough playing it to all hop to the console version that it's really being designed for.
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✭✭✭✭✭Thechemicals wrote: »leonardo.contrerasviub17_ESO wrote: »Shaun98ca2 wrote: »Final battle sounds Epic. Sorta like fighting against a Daedric Prince.
it's not even epic... I felt like I was hitting a small child with a stick.
Bs, you are no prodigy. Everyone who did this fight for the first time went to google or ran the whole fight. How do i know this? Because i know the design mechanics and phases of this fight on a statistical level. There are things you can and cant do. So don't try to act like you or anyone here steamrolled Molag Bag *first time you met him.
I beat the fight on my 3rd try (two deaths because I was a vampire, and Titans just don't appreciate my sensitive skin).
I didn't use Google. I didn't run except when I had to move out of a specific AoE. The previous quests in your main line had all been leading up to a fight like this, so if you hadn't learned how to block, dodge and interrupt by this point, I can see why this might have felt hard. But then, I can't see how you would get to that point without having learned those mechanics.----
Murray?1 -
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✭✭✭Thechemicals wrote: »leonardo.contrerasviub17_ESO wrote: »Shaun98ca2 wrote: »Final battle sounds Epic. Sorta like fighting against a Daedric Prince.
it's not even epic... I felt like I was hitting a small child with a stick.
Bs, you are no prodigy. Everyone who did this fight for the first time went to google or ran the whole fight. How do i know this? Because i know the design mechanics and phases of this fight on a statistical level. There are things you can and cant do. So don't try to act like you or anyone here steamrolled Molag Bag *first time you met him.
I beat MB the first time, without google or the forums. I did not, however, steamroll him. Resto-staff, full cloth templar. I kited a lot, I LoS'd a lot, I kept his big ugly mug on fire, and I was enjoyably amped up the whole time.
Most enjoyable fight in the game so far for me, it felt epic.
Started VRs, ran into two beetles, died in 10 seconds. Did not feel epic.
I beat Molag Ball First time. Didn't feel like I was even trying. DK Heavy Armor Sword and board. No forums or Youtube video help here either. I just stayed out of the red and kept hitting him.1 -
frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭Are you kidding me?
Does no one like a challenge anymore?
He wasnt even that hard. Once you learn his mechanics your golden.3 -
ebondeath✭✭✭✭✭I'm not sure that your post title is melodramatic enough.╔═════════════⌈Alannah Corvaine⌋══════════════╗
Rise, rise! To freedom, rise! Arise, ye Breton sons and daughters.
Ride, ride! To freedom, ride! Truth and glory to the brave!
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isengrimb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »How do you pick up this quest to kill Bal anyway? I hit 50/VR1, and no prophet; I went to the Harbourage, no quest. But I haven't finished all of Coldharbour yet, I'm just doing the orchard so far (at the quest Harvest Heart). Do I have to work my way through the rest of the CH quests to get the Bal quest?
Yes, you have to save Hollow City and then march north.
Ok. I saved the city, made a lot of new friends, and yeah, I'm on the northward push now. I just have to get past those damn harvesters, and the undead that follow them and get me via exhaustion. I guess if I keep trying, I'll get past it, like everything else so far.
Just sneak past them, I did
It's a "defend the mage while she casts a spell" thing, so that's not an option. Otherwise, yeah, my NB has as much sneak as I could give him, and I use it to my benefit and convenience whenever possible.
My problem there is partly tactics; I may have to put that stabby-stabby ability back on my main bar .. and the fact that my concentration and patience go right out the window when I'm out of "medication", and I'll be dry for about a week. Yuk.
Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on June 17, 2014 1:43PM0 -
Witar✭✭✭✭✭Veteran leveling will get you a lot of fights that are much more complicated then this easy molag bal beatdown.It cannot be seen, cannot be felt,
Cannot be heard, cannot be smelt,
It lies behind stars and under hills,
And empty holes it fills,
It comes first and follows after,
Ends life, kills laughter.0 -
AinGeal✭✭✭frwinters_ESO wrote: »Are you kidding me?
Does no one like a challenge anymore?
He wasnt even that hard. Once you learn his mechanics your golden.
Pretty much this. Dodge rolls, blocks, and interrupts.2 -
Adramelach✭✭✭I beat him on the first try with my "Zenimax-blessed" build of sorc/light/destro/resto at V1, and it wasn't that difficult. However, I did know one tip that I'd been told, regarding that pack of titans, so it wasn't completely "cold" and had I not known that, they may have been able to take me out (though perhaps not, as I do have almost 60% spell crit and make liberal use of Crit Surge).I learned that you once you have the "powerup" from the ritual, that blocking also 100% reflects spells. So, all you do is mash the block key when the titans show up, and do nothing else. So, I stood there for a couple minutes while they all destroyed themselves on my shield, while recharging my health and magicka, and was ready to go with Molag after that refreshing "break" with the titans. Was actually kind of funny.Edited by Adramelach on June 17, 2014 1:57PM0 -
Ulalume✭I honestly don't get why people have to come here and comment that the fight the OP admittedly struggles with was so easy for them. Who cares that you won the final fight on your first try using only light attacks? Bragging about your gaming prowess when someone explicitly stated that he/she is having a hard time is just bad style.
They give you so many (useless) NPC followers throughout the game, they may as well give players the option to use one for the final fight.
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AinGeal✭✭✭I honestly don't get why people have to come here and comment that the fight the OP admittedly struggles with was so easy for them. Who cares that you won the final fight on your first try using only light attacks? Bragging about your gaming prowess when someone explicitly stated that he/she is having a hard time is just bad style.
They give you so many (useless) NPC followers throughout the game, they may as well give players the option to use one for the final fight.
If nobody came on here to say such and simply let those that have an issue have their way, this can create more harm than good. If 3/4 don't have an issue and 1/4 does but that 1/4 complains about it while the 3/4 stay silent, then ZoS may think that it's too hard and needs to be made easier. Meanwhile that 3/4 that did it, enjoyed it because it presented a sufficient challenge for them to be enjoyable.
So ZoS makes the change and now it's no longer enjoyable by the 3/4 since it's just too easy.
There is a difference between something that is broken and something that is simply a L2P issue. I'd much rather not see the game be changed based on a L2P issue. If the current OP builds can do it but the current UP builds can't, then that is a balance issue. If it can be beaten fairly easily using the UP builds, then it is certainly a L2P issue.
Instead of treating the boss like a regular mob, treat it as a boss. Know that you won't be able to just repeatedly light attack while face tanking it. Also make proper use of combat maneuvers (block, dodge, interrupt, etc.).
Red on the ground and you're in it? Dodge roll out. You can also block. For example if an enemy is about to charge you, stay in the red and block. You will stop their charge and you won't get knocked down.
Looks like they are casting a long spell or attack? Try interrupting. If it turns out to be a heavy attack, you won't interrupt but you'll still block.
Looks like they are making a heavy attack? Sometimes you can dodge roll away and not take any damage at all instead of blocking.
Just because you have combat hints turned on and the game didn't tell you to use it doesn't mean the situation doesn't call for one. Don't be over reliant on it since it is rather unreliable.1 -
Adramelach✭✭✭I honestly don't get why people have to come here and comment that the fight the OP admittedly struggles with was so easy for them. Who cares that you won the final fight on your first try using only light attacks? Bragging about your gaming prowess when someone explicitly stated that he/she is having a hard time is just bad style.
In my own case, I was offering advice in my spoiler section. Also, in general, there's a difference between someone simply saying "I find this difficult, can anyone help" and "the game is broken, and has to be fixed".
In the second case, it's valid for people to retort, and explain that for some, including themselves, it's perhaps not as difficult, and the solution may not be to "fix" the game as much as try a different approach (hence my spoiler advice).
That said, I am one of those who DOES feel that there are many actual fixes that have to be made regarding difficulty (like VR stuff), and I do agree that all quests, including "solo" boss fights, should be groupable if it helps players get through the story in a more enjoyable way.0 -
Dekkameron✭✭✭✭✭I thought the Molag Bal fights were too easy. Whilst i was fighting him i kept thinking "Right, he must be just teasing me, any moment he's gonna drop the bomb!..." Oh he's dead and i've won the game yaaayy!.. Hmmm... Is that it?- Veteran Combat Librarian -0 -
Dekkameron✭✭✭✭✭Thechemicals wrote: »leonardo.contrerasviub17_ESO wrote: »Shaun98ca2 wrote: »Final battle sounds Epic. Sorta like fighting against a Daedric Prince.
it's not even epic... I felt like I was hitting a small child with a stick.
Bs, you are no prodigy. Everyone who did this fight for the first time went to google or ran the whole fight. How do i know this? Because i know the design mechanics and phases of this fight on a statistical level. There are things you can and cant do. So don't try to act like you or anyone here steamrolled Molag Bag *first time you met him.
Rubbish. Molag Bal is one of the easiest boss fights in the game. The resurrected Sword master guys for example were about 10 times more difficult than fighting the Daedric Prince. ALL world bosses in the game for example are at the very least twice as hard as Molag Bal.
Anyone who has to google the boss fight is quite frankly..er.. silly. It isn't like he does any complicated strategies.
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steveb16_ESO46✭✭✭✭✭Dekkameron wrote: »I thought the Molag Bal fights were too easy. Whilst i was fighting him i kept thinking "Right, he must be just teasing me, any moment he's gonna drop the bomb!..." Oh he's dead and i've won the game yaaayy!.. Hmmm... Is that it?
'No wait. What's that clicking sound? No, please God, no. Mud-crab! Nope, wait, there's two of them!
Tell Mummy I was thinking of her'.1
