I'm curious what faction all the people are that think the game is doing fine? you DO know there is only one server right? EP is like one of the more empty SWTOR servers at its worst point ON ONE SERVER.
I rolled an AD out of curiosity last night and WOW people everywhere! it was almost annoying! I haven't tried DC yet but if you think the game is doing fine go try EP out for a while - there is more going on a random EQ1 server than EP NA
You can't even get a group for anything in EP not outside of guilds (and that is fading away now) in AD people were spamming LFG... I hope ZoS does population transfers at some point.
this thread should be renamed to "Is This Thread Making a Comeback?"
I can be since I have paid for a subscription. Really, its not rocket science in figuring out why anyone with a negative view is still here.
Change my vote to NO COMEBACK every.Maybe a slow comeback as things continue to get fixed and balanced. But it will depend on exactly what keeps coming too. For instance if the rest of the new maps only concern guilds and groups and PvP then I'm out as soon as I finish all I can with the existing PvE. This could be a rich perfect experience for the Solo gamer if they could have only held off for a year after release--and the reviewers too.
Every player who has made it beyond Level 50 and hasn't raised an objection to the game's construct let the developers get away with it.Do you realize ZOS has redefined MMOs to mean single player only boss battles? Who let them get away with that?
Change my vote to NO COMEBACK every.Maybe a slow comeback as things continue to get fixed and balanced. But it will depend on exactly what keeps coming too. For instance if the rest of the new maps only concern guilds and groups and PvP then I'm out as soon as I finish all I can with the existing PvE. This could be a rich perfect experience for the Solo gamer if they could have only held off for a year after release--and the reviewers too.
Do you realize ZOS has redefined MMOs to mean single player only boss battles? Who let them get away with that?
Change my vote to NO COMEBACK every.Maybe a slow comeback as things continue to get fixed and balanced. But it will depend on exactly what keeps coming too. For instance if the rest of the new maps only concern guilds and groups and PvP then I'm out as soon as I finish all I can with the existing PvE. This could be a rich perfect experience for the Solo gamer if they could have only held off for a year after release--and the reviewers too.
Do you realize ZOS has redefined MMOs to mean single player only boss battles? Who let them get away with that?
Just beat the bosses and move on, I'm not seeing a problem.
Huckdabuck wrote: »
3. I seriously doubt anyone will be saying "yeah those first 3 months were rough but boy gee golly everything is just swell now" without
a. Templars getting dps buffs
b. NB's having passives fixed where they actually work
c. DK's not being nerfed into the ground
d. Sorcs not being nerfed into the ground
e. Vampire passives working properly
f. WW line getting some love
g. Cyrodiil lag becoming nonexistent
h. Insert other pertinent needs from any of the QQ threads
Change my vote to NO COMEBACK every.Maybe a slow comeback as things continue to get fixed and balanced. But it will depend on exactly what keeps coming too. For instance if the rest of the new maps only concern guilds and groups and PvP then I'm out as soon as I finish all I can with the existing PvE. This could be a rich perfect experience for the Solo gamer if they could have only held off for a year after release--and the reviewers too.
Do you realize ZOS has redefined MMOs to mean single player only boss battles? Who let them get away with that?
Just beat the bosses and move on, I'm not seeing a problem.
Of course you don't, since you fit in one of the two categories I mentioned above. The problem is that many who found they could not remained grouped in an MMO said, "WTF?!" and have already unsubscribed, without uttering a word why.
Of course, if ZOS doesn't care about bleeding subscriptions, then I suppose it really isn't a problem.
Change my vote to NO COMEBACK every.Maybe a slow comeback as things continue to get fixed and balanced. But it will depend on exactly what keeps coming too. For instance if the rest of the new maps only concern guilds and groups and PvP then I'm out as soon as I finish all I can with the existing PvE. This could be a rich perfect experience for the Solo gamer if they could have only held off for a year after release--and the reviewers too.
Do you realize ZOS has redefined MMOs to mean single player only boss battles? Who let them get away with that?
Just beat the bosses and move on, I'm not seeing a problem.
Of course you don't, since you fit in one of the two categories I mentioned above. The problem is that many who found they could not remained grouped in an MMO said, "WTF?!" and have already unsubscribed, without uttering a word why.
Of course, if ZOS doesn't care about bleeding subscriptions, then I suppose it really isn't a problem.
Shrug, I neither prefer single player nor am I a 'leet speed leveler'. But I also just don't have a problem with solo boss fights. My fiance and I just temporarily join these solo instances, beat them, talk about what we choose, laugh, and move on. There's never been a rage, table flip moment because we don't get to press buttons against the same red bar.
Change my vote to NO COMEBACK every.Maybe a slow comeback as things continue to get fixed and balanced. But it will depend on exactly what keeps coming too. For instance if the rest of the new maps only concern guilds and groups and PvP then I'm out as soon as I finish all I can with the existing PvE. This could be a rich perfect experience for the Solo gamer if they could have only held off for a year after release--and the reviewers too.
Do you realize ZOS has redefined MMOs to mean single player only boss battles? Who let them get away with that?
Just beat the bosses and move on, I'm not seeing a problem.
Of course you don't, since you fit in one of the two categories I mentioned above. The problem is that many who found they could not remained grouped in an MMO said, "WTF?!" and have already unsubscribed, without uttering a word why.
Of course, if ZOS doesn't care about bleeding subscriptions, then I suppose it really isn't a problem.
Shrug, I neither prefer single player nor am I a 'leet speed leveler'. But I also just don't have a problem with solo boss fights. My fiance and I just temporarily join these solo instances, beat them, talk about what we choose, laugh, and move on. There's never been a rage, table flip moment because we don't get to press buttons against the same red bar.
Well, many do have a problem with being forced into a solo instance, and its simply preposterous that an MMO would choose that route, especially for main story quests. Unlike me, most of them simply unsubscribe without uttering a word. Now y'all may not think that's a problem, but perhaps you will once the game goes F2P.
If so, then it is a bad design. How would it adversely affect your game-play, if you choose to solo an instance that others can group?Requiemslove wrote: »@GreySix You really are a melodramatic so and so. Did it ever occur to you maybe the main quest line and possibly the faction quest line was designed to be solo and was done like that for a reason?
I never asserted a group requirement, but rather that is should be allowed where currently prohibited. Again, how would it adversely affect your game-play, if you choose to solo an instance that others can group?Requiemslove wrote: »I get your point I really do but just because this is supposed to be a MMO does not mean you have to be in a group all the time.
Of course, but we can't know the reasons, can we? We can be sure that among them is the forced-solo requirementS of this particular MMO.Requiemslove wrote: »Those who have left [and no doubt there are many] did so for many and varied reasons but the root cause is dis-satisfaction.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. The forced-solo aspect of this MMO is stupid, and folks are unsubscribing because of it.Requiemslove wrote: »As is the cause of your own comments but the reality is you don't understand why they wanted the main quest to be solo.
... and I get the same illusion when assisting my wife's character in her main story instances in SWTOR, so not buying it.Requiemslove wrote: »That reason is to give players the illusion that their actions matter and make a positive difference and that they are [in fact] the hero, that and the story.
Then the fix is easy: Continue to permit solo instancing, without forcing it.Requiemslove wrote: »Sound business strategy is to cater to as many specific kinds of MMO gamer as possible. If they just went solo's it would be bad for business. If they just went group's it would be bad for business, if they just went raids it would be bad for business, if they just went RPers it would be bad for business, so have something for all.
I can't "just beat the bosses and move on...". If I could I wouldn't be pissing, moaning, and groaning about these single player only boss battles have ruined the MMO normal play style of the genre. If you aren't hardcore; if you aren't full of strategy; if you need group help in ANY battle; if unknown to you your character or skills are nerfed then its no problem for a solo player in a real MMO--you group. ZOS has bastardized MMO and you shouldn't let them get away with it and I dare say you aren't.Just beat the bosses and move on, I'm not seeing a problem.
Blackwidow wrote: »Bryong9ub17_ESO wrote: »
Are YOU the one trolling here? Its not in any "discount bins" where I'm from
http://www.amazon.com/Elder-Scrolls-Online-PC/dp/B0081Q58AW/ref=sr_1_1_title_0?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1402713202&sr=1-1&keywords=elder+scrolls+online
Make up your own mind, but I have never seen an MMO drop in price this fast before. Have you?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0081Q58AW/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1402713202&sr=1-1
More people are leaving than new people are joining. "Everyone" is leaving in the VR levels...you can tell because the zones are empty.
Zeni's top 3 priorities right now:
- Continue working on Cyrodiil lag. ESO has no endgame and you need to keep your VR players busy.
- Allow grouping for main questline and implement a system so that people can actually quest together with their friends. People who can't progress will find another game that lets them progress.
- Rebalance VR content so that people will actually want to play it.
Class rebalancing stuff and new content stuff is unimportant right now. They need to sew up the gaping wound in the game's chest first before it dies.