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Is the game making a comeback?
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Loco_Mofo✭✭✭✭✭No, the number of issues this game has at its current state indicates it is still struggling and losing the battleNone of the big issues have been addressed.1 -
Mablung✭✭✭✭✭No, the game mechanics cannot be overcome to redeem this game.
I am not the one that thinks the player base is strong and people will return to this garbage.
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Shaun98ca2✭✭✭✭✭Other remarks.Huckdabuck wrote: »1. Game design and play are severely lacking in most basic MMO aspects. Want to change that UI? Grouping? QoL issues? Combat mechanics? Target of Target? Targeting of heals? Is there an AoE taunt? Veteran Ranks?
Most MMOs don't let you change the UI need an addon for that. The grouping is this game is more organic than any other game(Except GW2). You fighting next to another person/s is a group.
Target of Target is not needed in this game as you have to aim to select your target. As for the targeting of heals I have to say I actually like this games healing method MUCH better as its easier to heal people NOT in your "party". The person that needs the heal gets the heal.
The lack of an AoE taunt is a good thing as it would be stupid to this type of game. The tanks in this game are not meant to hold all the mobs in a dungeon at once. The taunt a tank DOES get you can easily use on 2-3 mobs if your a good tank.
Everything about this games mechanics have made it way more enjoyable than any other MMO I have play. Healers are more than just heal bots. Tanks are more than just meatshields. DPS need to do more than just roll their faces on the keyboard.
As for Veteran Ranks well I would have made a VERY odd decision of no more leveling after 50 just hit Veteran Rank and the rest of the game would be played without level increases.
But for what Veteran Ranks are theres very little gain for the Ranks themselves which is good as we don't need excessive power creep.1 -
Shiroro✭✭✭No, the number of issues this game has at its current state indicates it is still struggling and losing the battleThe game is in freefall due to VR being a horrible experience. Every day the game loses thousands of players permanently and doesn't replace them. The game is lying glass-eyed on the canvas and only has a few seconds left to get up before it's done.4
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Tavore1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other remarks.Overall the game is OK but it does have a lot of buggy things that can ruin an otherwise enjoyable few hours of play.
They need to fix combat skills and combat lag - if they can sort those two then I think people would tolerate the odd glitched quest.
After that making the VR areas less grindy and random.
I'd rather see them devoting all their time to polishing the game right now, they released with a lot of content and already added one area, slow down... fix what you have and don't risk introducing new bugs to unsettle the players more.4 -
liquid_wolf✭✭✭✭Yes, I feel the population is strong and many users will sub/return in the coming months as more fixes/content is released.Comeback?
1. return to success: a return to a successful position or activity
2. sharp reply: a sharp or witty reply
It has been out for... what.... 8 weeks? did it drop from first to second place? Is it now only running at 6.8 miles per hour instead of 7.0 miles per hour?
Two months... seriously?! And you use the word comeback?
We had Final Fantasy XIV return to success after 3 years. It's original 2010 release was terrible, but the FFXIV:ARR release is all sorts of fantastic.
THAT is a comeback.
You do not use the word COMEBACK two months after release because it never had time to go anywhere!Edited by liquid_wolf on June 13, 2014 9:20PM3 -
PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, I feel the population is strong and many users will sub/return in the coming months as more fixes/content is released.Yes.
We also got rid of a lot of the initial whiners so the actual state and quality of the game begins to be more clear.
PS Nice trick in splitting the yes into 2 groups. Is not like everyone in those two groups agrees with both options./facepalmEdited by PBpsy on June 13, 2014 9:31PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)3 -
AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other remarks.Making a Comeback???
It's barely out, just as it's too soon to say whether it's a success or failure, it's also far too early to be asking about comebacks.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
Wizard's tenth rule0 -
pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭Other remarks.It will. This game is lightyears beyond other MMOs in all areas except class balance, build variety, and PvP fun-factor. All of which are resolved by changes based on community feedback.
The problem is that Zenimax takes 10 times as long to make changes or acknowledge and resolve issues as other game developers. This alone has caused the playerbase to plumet.
Delay in acknowledging and resolving the bank bug? People quit.
Delay in resolving mistform/batswarm ultimate gain abuse? People quit.
Delay in any balance changes to fix dragon knights and sorcerers? People quit.
These examples and many others could and should have been fixed within days, not weeks or months.
End the tedious inventory management game.2 -
Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, the game mechanics cannot be overcome to redeem this game.A lot needs to change.
1-9 skill bar.
Less rapid gear decay.
Top tier provisioning ingredients added to loot and chest tables.
Much shorter campaigns.
Auction House.
Reduced Respec Cost to 50g per skill.
These changes alone could actually go quite far actually. Everyone I know who quit cited these reasons and everyone I know who plays finds these "features" the worst in any MMO. Zenimax is more concerned about continuing the stupidity, nerfing everything that isn't already useless and creating fascist forum rules.Edited by Soloeus on June 13, 2014 9:47PM
Within; Without.2 -
Yes, I feel the population is strong and many users will sub/return in the coming months as more fixes/content is released.In all honesty i feel it will start growing now. Not to mention, for me, i left the game thinking eh it was nothing special and went to wildstar. and here i am re-subbed and closed my wildstar because at the end of the day the game here has more appeal...1
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Bryong9ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭Other remarks.Is the game making a come back?? It never even left....heck, its still considered a new game. It hasn't even had time to go anywhere.2 -
Bryong9ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭Other remarks.Not sure if trolling or just st..err fanboi. TESO is in the discount bins un under 90 days. ZOS is slashing staff and you still want to dig for people to lie to you and say there is a come back? Not a chance in hades.
Are YOU the one trolling here? Its not in any "discount bins" where I'm from and what fact/proof do you even have that zenimax is cutting staff AND you do know that every mmo cuts after the release right? They have temps that work only during the production of the game. Just like every video game ever..Edited by Bryong9ub17_ESO on June 13, 2014 10:14PM1 -
Csub✭✭✭✭✭Yes, the DEV are quick to address issues when compared to other MMOs. This gives me confidence that the game is on the up and up.
And you are here because...?"The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn3 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other remarks.As soon as ESO stops forcing solo instances, it will get a positive vote from me.
But I've been beating that particular drum since beta.Crotchety Old Man Guild
"Hey you, get off my lawn!"0 -
Kalann_Pander✭✭✭Other remarks.From what the forums show, it seems to me that ZoS is losing the bet to pull both ES and MMO players into the same game.
To oversimplify, the MMO crowd are the complainers, while the ES crowd profess their satisfaction. The logic goes that ES players will soon be the majority of the playerbase, as the MMO crowd moves on to the next big thing.
So, the only real question is : will there be enough of us to support the game ?
Opinions are like buttholes : Everybody has one, and they usually stink.
3 things to reduce stamina/magicka imbalance :
- Use magicka to block abilities costing magicka, instead of stamina.
- Add % damage reduction to heavy armor.
- Add block penetration to 2H.5 -
Mablung✭✭✭✭✭No, the game mechanics cannot be overcome to redeem this game.
I can be since I have paid for a subscription. Really, its not rocket science in figuring out why anyone with a negative view is still here.3 -
Mablung✭✭✭✭✭No, the game mechanics cannot be overcome to redeem this game.Kalann_Pander wrote: »From what the forums show, it seems to me that ZoS is losing the bet to pull both ES and MMO players into the same game.
To oversimplify, the MMO crowd are the complainers, while the ES crowd profess their satisfaction. The logic goes that ES players will soon be the majority of the playerbase, as the MMO crowd moves on to the next big thing.
So, the only real question is : will there be enough of us to support the game ?
I think that there is a lot of truth in this post. MMO players are extremely dissatisfied with the game while the single player RPG crowd love the game.
Of course I am not trying to speak for everyone so please do not jump down my throat, just an observation.2 -
Lynnessa✭✭✭✭Other remarks.Seems to me that the game has been doing just fine, and will continue to do so.1 -
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✭✭✭This just seems premature. The game is two months old. Most of the people just half interested are gone. This happens in every game, par for the course, nothing to see here. Will some of those people eventually come back? Maybe. I'm not particularly concerned about them though either, and I'm fairly certain that ZOS projected some loss after the first month or two, followed by hopefully gradual growth after the fact. In short, I think this poll is pointless.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
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<And plenty more>0 -
Mablung✭✭✭✭✭No, the game mechanics cannot be overcome to redeem this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8IBnfkcrsM 3 -
Csub✭✭✭✭✭Yes, the DEV are quick to address issues when compared to other MMOs. This gives me confidence that the game is on the up and up.
Well, since you called the game garbage, I assumed you hated it so why keep playing with something if you hate it, even if you paid for it? The cost of, I don't know, 3 months sub really worth spending time with something you consider garbage?
I can be since I have paid for a subscription. Really, its not rocket science in figuring out why anyone with a negative view is still here.
It's like if you order some food and you are already full halfway through but you will shove the rest down your throat just because you paid for it.Edited by Csub on June 14, 2014 1:25AM"The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn3 -
Mablung✭✭✭✭✭No, the game mechanics cannot be overcome to redeem this game.
Well, since you called the game garbage, I assumed you hated it so why keep playing with something if you hate it, even if you paid for it? The cost of, I don't know, 3 months sub really worth spending time with something you consider garbage?
I can be since I have paid for a subscription. Really, its not rocket science in figuring out why anyone with a negative view is still here.
It's like if you order some food and you are already full halfway through but you will shove the rest down your throat just because you paid for it.
I don't play the game. I play the forums. Way more entertaining than the game itself. I plan on getting my moneys worth and so far so good.
Not real sure what you are trying to say with your analogy. You calling me fat?3 -
No, the number of issues this game has at its current state indicates it is still struggling and losing the battleto much to fix, fixes take to much time and introduce new (major) bugs
- even now PVE Quest are still flawed (just some)
- grouping (thats what a MMO is about) is not fixed
- guilds suffer the same bugs as at start (Ranks, rights, guildbanks)
- bot are just gone, because there are no players that buy something (maybe to harsh)
- no direct and honest communication (aka "we made a mistake")
- support is just a "we forward that" or "we know about that" (dwemer robots)
- nerfing instead of fixing and buffing
- disabling instead of fixing
- not kept promises and still do false advertising (just read the perks of imperial edition)
- gametimecards are way cheaper than subs (i payed 16 bucks for one "real" 60 day card i bought ... not just a key) ... what a insult
- gamecost (game+30 days) dropped after 60 days to 1/4th or lower (as low as 9,99$ right now for physical copies because shelfspace has to be cleared for products that sell)
- people payed to much a difference at start (i bought my key from Nuuvem/Brazil for 48€ EU/imperial .... from zeni that would be 79€ - same game)
- client gets flawed (memory leaks, shutter, unknown errors) - came with patches
- people that assist in fixing are not rewarded (and even worse have to use flawed ingame and non responsive channels) .... some of my guild invested 40+ hours ingame time to hunt bots .... some of them still are active and they received not even 1 day of free playtime)
..... 100+ other things (skillbugs, pvp issues, provisioning, crafting, exploits and many more)
but the worst of all: trust lost by me
that post (written before prestart) came true: http://errantpenman.com/2014/03/22/a-farewell-to-teso/ (read "A lousy exterminator")
Post date: March 22, 2014Edited by andreas.rudroffb16_ESO on June 14, 2014 2:46AM2 -
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✭✭No, the game mechanics cannot be overcome to redeem this game.Shaun98ca2 wrote: »Is the game PERFECT NO, but 3 more months and all the hardships most of us still around had to endure will be nothing but a distant memory.
I hope you are right. Experience and history say otherwise.
QFT.
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Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, the game mechanics cannot be overcome to redeem this game.Bryong9ub17_ESO wrote: »
Are YOU the one trolling here? Its not in any "discount bins" where I'm from
http://www.amazon.com/Elder-Scrolls-Online-PC/dp/B0081Q58AW/ref=sr_1_1_title_0?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1402713202&sr=1-1&keywords=elder+scrolls+online
Make up your own mind, but I have never seen an MMO drop in price this fast before. Have you?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0081Q58AW/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1402713202&sr=1-1Edited by Blackwidow on June 14, 2014 2:36AM4 -
No, the number of issues this game has at its current state indicates it is still struggling and losing the battleBlackwidow wrote: »Make up your own mind, but I have never seen an MMO drop in price this fast before. Have you?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0081Q58AW/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1402713202&sr=1-1
they resell the 9,99$ physical copys from Walmart/Best Buy (Walmart one even with explorer pack and a map ^^)
Edited by andreas.rudroffb16_ESO on June 14, 2014 2:42AM1
