The resource camper exploit

Rylana

There is currently an issue in the game involving the small forts around the resources.

They have one door. Only one.

The issue is, that an OPFOR can enter this tiny fort, place multiple oils, caltrops, and any variety of magic spam at the doorway and farm kills with complete ease with zero risk because the walls cannot be destroyed.

Due to this, you can only go in through the heavily trapped up door, and practically no one can survive this.

it is completely possible for just TWO players to troll a whole large group or more with this tactic and it ought to be addressed.

One very specific group of players has taken a liking to say steal an elder scroll and sit in one of these invincible forts for hours.

Clever perhaps, but obviously a total exploit of the system. Make the walls destroyable and in the case of them camping a fort that actually belongs to your faction, make their presence eventually take it so then it could be destroyed anyway.

This needs to end.

Bunk

sounds like a l2p issue to me

LadyChaos

Rylana wrote: »

There is currently an issue in the game involving the small forts around the resources.

They have one door. Only one.

The issue is, that an OPFOR can enter this tiny fort, place multiple oils, caltrops, and any variety of magic spam at the doorway and farm kills with complete ease with zero risk because the walls cannot be destroyed.

Due to this, you can only go in through the heavily trapped up door, and practically no one can survive this.

it is completely possible for just TWO players to troll a whole large group or more with this tactic and it ought to be addressed.

One very specific group of players has taken a liking to say steal an elder scroll and sit in one of these invincible forts for hours.

Clever perhaps, but obviously a total exploit of the system. Make the walls destroyable and in the case of them camping a fort that actually belongs to your faction, make their presence eventually take it so then it could be destroyed anyway.

This needs to end.

if they are camping in it with a scroll it isn't l2p... it is just a trollfest.

I doubt game designers said I hope someone thinks to take an objective that really can't "just be let go" like a scroll, and have them go to a tower and the rvr of getting it back is unbalanced. The only thing said tower players are getting is farmed AP and laughs, not any actual game objectives.

This falls under the "disrupts normal game-play" TOS criteria and I suspect it will be what makes the devs do something about pots now. Using the scroll kicked it up a notch from l2p to "disrupts normal game-play".

dagnome

I doubt they thought anyone would grab a scroll and commit suicide via slaughterfish either.

reggielee

bound to happen as more people get bored with the same zergs for keeps and resources

i do believe they will address this and oil pots in a future update

xhrit

You can already destroy a tower's walls.

LadyChaos

xhrit wrote: »

You can already destroy a tower's walls.

not when you own it.

Oblongship

To add to this my own faction has been taking scrolls into them. Forcing the others to come to them and just trololololing them with oil.

Malufus

sounds like tower/lord room/bridge camping in daoc.... it was effective but beatable.... l2p

Bloodvax

You can destroy the tower with trebs. your welcome. And to the person that said not when you own it. Why would you cap a resource with them in the tower? You basically just made it harder on yourself.

Lexander

Bloodvax wrote: »

You can destroy the tower with trebs. your welcome. And to the person that said not when you own it. Why would you cap a resource with them in the tower? You basically just made it harder on yourself.

here's news: there are a lot of people out there who make up for a simple zerg and dont really bother themselves with sophisticated matters such as how to deal with people in tower and why they shouldnt cap resources

and they are going to capture the resource objective regardless

Cydone

Zomg, I can't defeat the tactic these ppl are using, so it must be an exploit. And not L2P.

firestorm_rmb16_ESO

I can confirm this is a problem when AD did this to DC by sitting in one of their resource towers. We had planned ahead of time and all bought 5 Oil Pots. We managed a good 30k AP in about an hour from people trying to get in.

Hoiyay

Scrolls automatically reset after 1 hour of being taken (if it isn't capped before then obviously)

So....stop exaggerating.

And yes, it is a learn to play.

If 2 people are destroying your entire raid in a tower that they are stuck in....then LEAVE THEM ALONE. It's pretty simple. And if they have the scroll in the tower....then camp them for about 45min or so and they will automatically lose the scroll.

Yes, yes, it is a learn to play.

thefreezingvoid

Hoiyay wrote: »

Scrolls automatically reset after 1 hour of being taken (if it isn't capped before then obviously)

So....stop exaggerating.

And yes, it is a learn to play.

If 2 people are destroying your entire raid in a tower that they are stuck in....then LEAVE THEM ALONE. It's pretty simple. And if they have the scroll in the tower....then camp them for about 45min or so and they will automatically lose the scroll.

Yes, yes, it is a learn to play.

You try telling that to mindless brain dead zerglings. I swear EP has the worst players possible.

Savitar

That's cause they all thought they were gonna get to be dohvakiin

bsheffield2008ub17_ESO

l2p

Halrloprillalar

Ry, go to bed, this is clearly a weak effort on the troll front

eMTeeR

Bunk wrote: »

sounds like a l2p issue to me

Haha true.

You can counter it easy tho its nice way of fighting big groups

Minnesinger

Not the first thread about the same issue. Add some more threads about the usage of oils and you can find a lot of information how to handle/mess with this oil potting a resource.

1st advice I give is to even that tower down to the ground zero. If you have people with skills they can clear the tower easily.

There is no bad game mechanics if you are using the skills what you have been given. Otherwise, stay out of the place. ;D

bitaken

So - how many did you farm with oil Rylana?

seriously...

ArconSeptim

What you think will happen when they implement Imperial City entries.

DontBeAfraid

1 guys spamming purge - another popping barrier -> run in and kill.

whoever cannot do this -> L2p

Engelin

Camping ressources has been done for a loooong time and there is no exploit involved.. people need to stop using the E word about everything that kills them.

It's not that hard to flush them out, immovable, purge, stun, done.

Or just leave them in there they are only there to farm.

eliisra

I still think it's way funnier to just leave them sitting in the tower. It's such a party pooper lol.

Because I know from personal experience how much it sucks when you invested time making this deadly oil trap, built up ultimate, prepared the floor with runes and caltroops, for nothing. You patiently wait while dreaming about the AP rolling in. Waiting some more...even longer. Falling asleep. But no one enters the damn tower

martinhpb16_ESO

l2p it's the spice of life that makes it interesting and doesnt qualify as an exploit.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

I've seen groups overcome this, though it certainly isn't easy. Seems like a feature, not a bug.

What does grabbing a scroll and then getting killed by slaughterfish do exactly?

TomLukman

It's also possible to place trebuchetes around the tower and fire at oilers. And yes, this tower mechanic is stupid (just as all other oil abuses in game).

Artemiisia

two men enter a door, first one tank, second one sorcerer, put up negate and rest just keeps going inside.......spamming ultis and aoe

nothing OP about it, its a good tactic for those inside, if they are trapped and put into a corner

aksyong

Purge is your best friend. I can purge for dayz.

RedTalon

At-least not has bad, when the oil also went through the walls of the tower has well.