Does the IMP motif exists?
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I have all other 9 races, just missing Ancient elves, primal, dwener, daedric, elemental
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Valethar✭✭✭✭It does. I traded a Khajiit motif to another player for the Imperial several days ago. I've also seen people crafting gear from the other motifs.
The motifs from Imperial on up are all located in higher level zones, however. You won't see them showing up in Daggerfall, etc.. by opening chests and such.
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South_of_Heaven✭✭✭So you have the elemental, the dwemer and daedric motifs as well?Edited by South_of_Heaven on April 24, 2014 10:32PM0 -
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Anyway, yeah, Imperial exists. I think it might be only in Cyrodil, I'm not sure. I've seen them pop up for sale in zone from time to time.
The others, Barbaric, Ancient Elf, Primal, and Daedric are all veteran level only, and require having a crafter who can make vet level items.0 -
felixgamingx1✭✭✭✭South_of_Heaven wrote: »So you have the elemental, the dwemer and daedric motifs as well?
No and I need imp too0 -
felixgamingx1 wrote: »I have all other 9 races, just missing Ancient elves, primal, dwener, daedric, elemental
there is no Dwemer or Elemental styles..
here are the styles:
1:breton
2:Redguards
3:Orcs
4:Dumer(Dark elves)
5:Nords
6:Argonians
7:Altmer (High Elves)
8:Bosmer (Wood Elves)
9:Khajiit
10:Ancient Elves
11:Barbaric
12:Primal
13:Daedric
14:ImperialN1 For LifeNothing is true; Everything is permitted.Imperial Templar ωΩωΩω Ebonheart Pact ωΩωΩω NA MegaServer0 -
elxdark✭It's random loot, don't listen to these people who "think" the drop is this and that.
I got it at lv 20 from a dresser.0 -
felixgamingx1✭✭✭✭N1LegionXDeath wrote: »
there is no Dwemer or Elemental styles..
here are the styles:
1:breton
2:Redguards
3:Orcs
4:Dumer(Dark elves)
5:Nords
6:Argonians
7:Altmer (High Elves)
8:Bosmer (Wood Elves)
9:Khajiit
10:Ancient Elves
11:Barbaric
12:Primal
13:Daedric
14:Imperial
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Valethar✭✭✭✭South_of_Heaven wrote: »So you have the elemental, the dwemer and daedric motifs as well?
Nope. I'm still missing 4 to complete the set on my tailor, and 5 to complete them on my blacksmith. I have the first 9 on both, and the Imperial on the tailor, but still have to acquire the rest.
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✭✭✭✭✭N1LegionXDeath wrote: »
there is no Dwemer or Elemental styles..
here are the styles:
1:breton
2:Redguards
3:Orcs
4:Dumer(Dark elves)
5:Nords
6:Argonians
7:Altmer (High Elves)
8:Bosmer (Wood Elves)
9:Khajiit
10:Ancient Elves
11:Barbaric
12:Primal
13:Daedric
14:Imperial
I don't think those numbers are right...
1: Altmer
2: Dunmer(?)
3: Bosmer
4: Nords
5: Bretons
6: Redguard
7: Khajiit
8: Orcs
9: Argonians
10: Imperial
11:
12: Primal or Barbaric, not sure which.
13:
14: Daedric?
Khajiit and Orcs might be backwards too...0 -
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Nope. I'm still missing 4 to complete the set on my tailor, and 5 to complete them on my blacksmith. I have the first 9 on both, and the Imperial on the tailor, but still have to acquire the rest.
I'm guessing your tailor and blacksmith are two different toons then, which is weird but to each their own lol.0 -
starkerealm wrote: »
I don't think those numbers are right...
1: Altmer
2: Dunmer(?)
3: Bosmer
4: Nords
5: Bretons
6: Redguard
7: Khajiit
8: Orcs
9: Argonians
10: Imperial
11:
12: Primal or Barbaric, not sure which.
13:
14: Daedric?
Khajiit and Orcs might be backwards too...
dure.. my numbers are always right... ._.
anyway, there are in that order on my list...Edited by N1LegionXDeath on April 24, 2014 10:52PMN1 For LifeNothing is true; Everything is permitted.Imperial Templar ωΩωΩω Ebonheart Pact ωΩωΩω NA MegaServer0 -
Valethar✭✭✭✭chantry.hammondub17_ESO wrote: »
I'm guessing your tailor and blacksmith are two different toons then, which is weird but to each their own lol.
Yup. From what I understand, it's not possible to max everything with the available skill points, so I use an alt for blacksmithing. May or may not be accurate, but given the ridiculously high cost of respecs, I decided to play it safe.Resistance is not futile! Say no to the Greed Collective™. Boycott Crown Crates.0 -
South_of_Heaven✭✭✭N1LegionXDeath wrote: »
there is no Dwemer or Elemental styles..
Yea, it's just that the op mentioned dragon and alien styles at first and I thought I'd continue the trolling
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✭✭✭✭✭N1LegionXDeath wrote: »
dure.. my numbers are always right... ._.
anyway, there are in that order on my list...
Oh, you're talking about in game. I was talking about the motif book numbering. That's part of why I wasn't sure on the 11 - 14, I've seen those books in chat a few times, but not enough to remember reliably.0 -
Imperial motifs are not "only" found in veteran zones, this is a misconception. They are in fact incredibly rare drops in all zones that regular motifs are found, and thus their value is much greater than that of a regular motif. Said rarity is most likely the result of Imperial style only being craftable by those that buy the Imperial pack unless you find that motif.
To the second poster, either you ripped that new player off or you got a great deal, suffice to say an Imperial is still worth 5 to 10 times the amount of a regular motif, though they are still considerably more rare than just 5 or 10 regular motifs, as evidenced by posts in this thread.
There is a lot of false info in this thread, you shouldn't comment if you don't know for sure as it only confuses people further. I am one of those that have found an Imperial motif, and it was in Stonefalls.
Don't take this to mean that Imperial motifs don't drop in Vet zones, if regular motifs drop there, so can Imperial, but the rarity is definitely the same if not even lower due to the new motifs that can also drop.Edited by AngryOlek on April 24, 2014 11:15PM0 -
Fyrakin✭✭✭Based on my observations books 10 (Imperial) ,11 (Ancient Elves) , 14 (Daedric) can be found in a second alliance zones (veteran rank 6+). Books 12 (Barbaric) and 13 (Primal) can be found in a first alliance zones (veteran rank 1-5). As far as I can tell book 10 is very rare item.NA Megaserver (810) - Fyrakin, Loremaster Fyrakin, Cartographer Fyrakin, Taskmaster Tobin, Zergas, Texa, Furnacius, Hextex
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Yup. From what I understand, it's not possible to max everything with the available skill points, so I use an alt for blacksmithing. May or may not be accurate, but given the ridiculously high cost of respecs, I decided to play it safe.
It is quite possible to max out alot if you collect them skyshards, do public dungeon group challenges, participate in pvp and do all of the story quests for all 3 alliances. you can max out all class skills, guilds, crafting and several weapon line skills. there is a big stash of skillpoints there.
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It is quite possible to max out alot if you collect them skyshards, do public dungeon group challenges, participate in pvp and do all of the story quests for all 3 alliances. you can max out all class skills, guilds, crafting and several weapon line skills. there is a big stash of skillpoints there.
Don't neglect to think of the future. New skill trees, new guilds and new crafting profs will pop up. Investing your main or secondary character in all crafting professions seems like a poor idea when you have access to 8 characters.
The question is: are you willing to respec your crafting skills in the future to put those points in new combat skills?
Yes there will be new skyshards, new skill point quests and etc, but there is no way to be sure they'll be equal to the amount of new trees that will open up. As it stands, only enchanting gives achievements, so there is no real reason to raise all of them on a single character.Edited by AngryOlek on April 24, 2014 11:26PM0 -
Valethar✭✭✭✭To the second poster, either you ripped that new player off or you got a great deal
I ripped no one off. He made the offer to me. As both people got what they wanted, I would say it's a fair trade. Both items were worth exactly what the people involved decided they were. Basic economics. You should probably take a class to expand your understanding of the concept, rather than making groundless accusations about a situation you neither participated in nor know anything about.
To put things in perspective, here's a relevant quote for you.you shouldn't comment if you don't know for sureEdited by Valethar on April 24, 2014 11:58PMResistance is not futile! Say no to the Greed Collective™. Boycott Crown Crates.0 -
I ripped no one off. He made the offer to me. As both people got what they wanted, I would say it's a fair trade. Both items were worth exactly what the people involved decided they were. Basic economics. You should probably take a class to expand your understanding of the concept, rather than making groundless accusations about a situation you neither participated in nor know anything about.
To put things in perspective, here's a relevant quote for you.
I see you chose only to read the first part of what I said instead of both, which implies something to me. I've seen many players attempting to do exactly what you did, and all of them have had the same excuse.
Your choice to assume guilt instead of a simple "Oh well I didn't know, so I guess it was a good deal!" says more than all of the paragraph you responded with.
Not only that, but you gave incorrect info in your initial post, and chose to play semantics and defend your internet honor rather than address said false information. This also says something to me.
Feel free to reread what you quoted, there was an "or" in there. I think the real question here is, why would you assume I meant only the first half of what I said? If I had reversed the order, would you have felt different?
Also, trying to give a pseudo lecture on economics is interesting and all, but I can't help but think you don't see the irony in such a statement..when it comes from the player that didn't know the price of an item that has had a relatively steady price since early release.
PS - Guilty or not, the resources are available to check pricing on rare items, as any good "economist" such as yourself would well know.Edited by AngryOlek on April 25, 2014 1:24AM0 -
Malufus✭✭what is disturbing is that when we pre-odrered the imperial edition it was said multiple times that we'd have access to the imperial craft style account wide
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Gelston✭✭✭It never said the words "account wide" though I do agree a reasonable person would see the separate box advertising the crafting style and assume it.0 -
Valethar✭✭✭✭It never said the words "account wide" though I do agree a reasonable person would see the separate box advertising the crafting style and assume it.
At least one retailer actually advertised it that way. The blurb stated 'gain new crafting styles', so I can see where the confusion comes from. Like the pre-order and other bonuses, nothing anywhere ever stated it was for one character only that I can recall.
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✭✭✭✭✭Imperial motifs are not "only" found in veteran zones, this is a misconception. They are in fact incredibly rare drops in all zones that regular motifs are found, and thus their value is much greater than that of a regular motif. Said rarity is most likely the result of Imperial style only being craftable by those that buy the Imperial pack unless you find that motif.
To the second poster, either you ripped that new player off or you got a great deal, suffice to say an Imperial is still worth 5 to 10 times the amount of a regular motif, though they are still considerably more rare than just 5 or 10 regular motifs, as evidenced by posts in this thread.
There is a lot of false info in this thread, you shouldn't comment if you don't know for sure as it only confuses people further. I am one of those that have found an Imperial motif, and it was in Stonefalls.
Don't take this to mean that Imperial motifs don't drop in Vet zones, if regular motifs drop there, so can Imperial, but the rarity is definitely the same if not even lower due to the new motifs that can also drop.
Fair enough. I remember chatter from prerelease that said the Imperial style would require you to travel to Cyrodil and find a book. So that was where I was making the assumption that it was only available there.0 -
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Also, trying to give a pseudo lecture on economics is interesting and all, but I can't help but think you don't see the irony in such a statement..when it comes from the player that didn't know the price of an item that has had a relatively steady price since early release.
Please , professor, quote where I stated anything about pricing, correct or otherwise. Not once, in any of the posts, have I made mention of pricing. There's no irony to be had here, just your lack of reading comprehension skills.
I have no need to re read anything. Regardless of the order in which it appeared, you accused me of ripping someone off. There was no 'Oh well, I didn't know, it was a great deal' involved. As I stated, this player came to me with the offer, not the other way around. All he wanted was the Khajiit in trade.I've seen many players attempting to do exactly what you did, and all of them have had the same excuse.
Please, professor, enlighten us. Since you were clearly involved in the transaction and know all, tell us, what really happened? Please be prepared to cite your evidence and provide transcripts, since you seem to have all the answers to life, the universe and everything.Resistance is not futile! Say no to the Greed Collective™. Boycott Crown Crates.0 -
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Please , professor, quote where I stated anything about pricing, correct or otherwise. Not once, in any of the posts, have I made mention of pricing. There's no irony to be had here, just your lack of reading comprehension skills.
Oooh, I know this, it was right... there:Both items were worth exactly what the people involved decided they were. Basic economics.0 -
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And that's perfectly valid. Nothing there indicates anyone having incorrect knowledge of current pricing as angrytroll seems to think.Edited by Valethar on April 25, 2014 3:05AMResistance is not futile! Say no to the Greed Collective™. Boycott Crown Crates.0 -
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Oooh, I know this, it was right... there:
And that's perfectly valid. Nothing there indicates anyone having incorrect knowledge of current pricing as angrytroll seems to think.
Yeah... that's not how quote tags work...
It's also not how economics works.0 -
Valethar✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »It's also not how economics works.
Sure it is. Unless you think you can prove thousands of years of trading invalid.Resistance is not futile! Say no to the Greed Collective™. Boycott Crown Crates.1
