Paying $2000

Free.Block

I swear i will donate two grand to zenimax, if you can make open world pvp, and a better pvp system that is not all about zerg. This game is starting to go carebear quickly.

Oblongship

2000 whole dollars for hundreds of man hours worth of work?

Wooooooooooow big spender.

Free.Block

I'm sure others would donate :P

Naguur86

2000$ ?
I don't think they would need that much. The things you ask for can be easely done with 750$ max.

Oblongship

Free.Block wrote: »

I'm sure others would donate :P

Doubtful anyone would donate enough to cover the man hours it would take.

Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts

I have trouble paying 14.99 let alone 2000 for this sub par game.

crush83

Average developer gets about $30-35/hr.

So, let's say 500 hours * $35/hour = $17,500

Of course, ZOS would probably consider this consulting work, at which the going rate is usually more like $100/hr (yeah, that's right. the suits pimp us out to their clients).

Klarick

Free.Block wrote: »

I swear i will donate two grand to zenimax, if you can make open world pvp, and a better pvp system that is not all about zerg. This game is starting to go carebear quickly.

1/3rd of Tamriel is PvP. Cyradill is huge. Typically those that QQ for "open world" PvP, are looking only to grief, harass, and gank those that are much lower in level.

This PvP system, adopted from DAOC, is awesome for those of us that love the PvP but hate the ganking found rampant in any game that touts "open world" PvP.

Once you learn the Cyr PvP system, and once more people hit 50, then you will see that you dont need your ganking of lower levels to enjoy a true pvp environment.

crush83

Klarick wrote: »

Once you learn the Cyr PvP system, and once more people hit 50, then you will see that you dont need your ganking of lower levels to enjoy a true pvp environment.

What about special needs children who just want to get the satisfaction of "killing" another player?

Bazzakrak

And there will most likely always be a a mass of people congregating towards a certain campaing for their alliance where they are winning with little to no opposition.

Daverios

I already donated. 160$ . Also why dont the people crying foe every aspect of everygame to be made into ESO just go play those other games.

/thread

Free.Block

Not to kill lowbies, you have the idea all wrong, its more like to challenge other high end guilds, in small 5v5's and 10v10 in the open world. OR a PVP system that has a bit of competition. I could care less for greifing.

Malediktus

I dont want pvp in any of the current pve areas

epoling

Please no open world PvP. In my experience PvP tends to draw too many sociopaths and psychopaths who only live to spoil other people's game. You turn off all the people who only want limited or no PvP and you kill the a big part of the customer base. Call us all the names you want (carebear, etc.) but not everybody gets a thrill from killing another real person's character or by being killed while we are busy just playing. It spoils my fun a lot when somebody 20 levels higher than me named "Noobslayer" swoops down on me while i am harvesting and one shots me.

crush83

epoling wrote: »

Please no open world PvP. In my experience PvP tends to draw too many sociopaths and psychopaths who only live to spoil other people's game. You turn off all the people who only want limited or no PvP and you kill the a big part of the customer base. Call us all the names you want (carebear, etc.) but not everybody gets a thrill from killing another real person's character or by being killed while we are busy just playing. It spoils my fun a lot when somebody 20 levels higher than me named "Noobslayer" swoops down on me while i am harvesting and one shots me.

Then they mock you and spawn camp you.

codyyoungnub18_ESO

You have open world PvP, and you can have guild vs guild, set it up. And you can gank PvEr's who choose to go into Cy to quest. So lets be honest about what you REALLY want.

One thing though is the Cy pve quests should give far better experience since the risk is a lot higher, it should be desirable.

edit: Cy quest should be THE rewards quest to fight over.

Knottypine

There would be too much griefing. Imagine the armor I would be going through as other players ganking while trying to quest around PvE.

JKorr

Free.Block wrote: »

I swear i will donate two grand to zenimax, if you can make open world pvp, and a better pvp system that is not all about zerg. This game is starting to go carebear quickly.

Wouldn't be enough to make up for all the people who would quit if they did make it open world pvp.

That would be one of two things they could do that would make me drop my sub instantly.

Bunk

Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »

I have trouble paying 14.99 let alone 2000 for this sub par game.

Can you stop cyber bullying ZOS please

n.englishb14_ESO

First...how would that work? Would people in their own alliance attack each other? That doesn't sound right. Now if they had a justice and crime system I suppose you could justify it, but atm it doesn't fit in with the setting.

ImaginaryDimension

Why should we donate? That is the entire point of a monthly subscription, for ZOS to develop new content. Give it time guys the game has been out for less than 1 month!

I'm sure they'll develop pvp arenas and pvp worlds. To be honest Aion did a great job with end game pvp content. Tiamaranta and stuff worked great and it adds an element of risk when questing.

The pvp worlds should have world bosses which spawn randomly around the map along with quests and other incentives. Basically all three alliances are fighting over boss spawns and other rich pickings.

Not many people like zerg v zerg and not many people like grinding in zerg v zerg for 3 million ap to buy V10 epics. Give us more ways to earn ap.

Dalriaden

I heard a rumor they were planning to implement 5v5 and 1v1/dueling but atm can't find anything to back it up.

Phyrdrin

Klarick wrote: »

Free.Block wrote: »

I swear i will donate two grand to zenimax, if you can make open world pvp, and a better pvp system that is not all about zerg. This game is starting to go carebear quickly.

1/3rd of Tamriel is PvP. Cyradill is huge. Typically those that QQ for "open world" PvP, are looking only to grief, harass, and gank those that are much lower in level.

This PvP system, adopted from DAOC, is awesome for those of us that love the PvP but hate the ganking found rampant in any game that touts "open world" PvP.

Once you learn the Cyr PvP system, and once more people hit 50, then you will see that you dont need your ganking of lower levels to enjoy a true pvp environment.

Thank you. Very well said!

WilliamTee

I can solve this for you.

Step 1: Go to one of the multiple PVE quest hubs in Cyrodiil.

Step 2: Attack people.

Can I have my $2000 now please?

Gwarok

Klarick wrote: »

This PvP system, adopted from DAOC, is awesome for those of us that love the PvP but hate the ganking found rampant in any game that touts "open world" PvP.

Once you learn the Cyr PvP system, and once more people hit 50, then you will see that you don't need your ganking of lower levels to enjoy a true pvp environment.

Pretty much summed it up right there.

Typically those that QQ for "open world" PvP, are looking only to grief, harass, and gank those that are much lower in level.

If they cant play with the big dogs and learn their lessons by take their lickings from said big dogs in the process, then they should stay on the porch.

rayvn03b14_ESO

PvP is all good it isn't my thing except for when I decide I want to do it, so I'm happy with it the way it is. People who want a really brutal PvP experience including open dungeons ought to try Wizardry online. If you can get past the cutesy-poo anime type characters, there's open world pvp, pvp in dungeons (imagine downing a boss only to get ganked and your stuff taken before you can recover from the fight, yes, there's gear thievery in that game) and most of all permadeath. I tried it for about half an hour then quit due to the fiddle-farty weird controls prevalent in Asian MMOs. Now that's some hardcore pvp.

TESO is about right for me. I don't like being hassled while questing, etc. but I love the idea of jumping into the big battles when I feel like it.

Socratic

Give me the 2 grand and we can have open world PVP IRL.

7788b14_ESO

crush83 wrote: »

Klarick wrote: »

Once you learn the Cyr PvP system, and once more people hit 50, then you will see that you dont need your ganking of lower levels to enjoy a true pvp environment.

What about special needs children who just want to get the satisfaction of "killing" another player?

Therapy.

Free.Block

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n.englishb14_ESO wrote: »

First...how would that work? Would people in their own alliance attack each other? That doesn't sound right. Now if they had a justice and crime system I suppose you could justify it, but atm it doesn't fit in with the setting.

A crime system, now thats exactly what the game needs. With bounty's etc, Good thought good thought.

UrQuan

Keep PVP in Cyrodill. It's huge, there's tons of room for it there, and there's already a mechanism to keep complete noobs from being roflstomped (ie. you have to be at least level 10 to even go there). I like the PVE zones pretty much the way they are. The only reason I sometimes wish this was open world PVP is so I could attack bots.

Now having said that, it would be cool if there was a challenge mechanism in the PVE zones. You could challenge a single character for a one-on-one fight, and if they accept then you can attack each other (but nobody else could intervene). There could be a similar thing for groups where regular size (ie. up to 4 players) groups could challenge other regular size groups, and large groups (ie. up to 24 players, or whatever the limit is) could challenge other large groups. This would be different from the experience in Cyrodill in that you wouldn't end up with zergs because nobody outside of the challenge could fight in it.

Nazon_Katts

I'm sure your two grand would be very welcome over here: http://www.camelotunchained.com

Still 10k to go for giants. And I want giants. Who does not?!