Are macros in Razer Synapse allowed?
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QuadroTony✭✭✭✭✭but addons are allowed
and addons has very close to marcoses functions
some addons
like craft 170 daggers with 1 click
automatically use drink or food when your buff is over
completely change all gear in one second and all skills too
etcEdited by QuadroTony on May 27, 2015 5:14PM0 -
StrangerFull✭✭✭If the devices is produced, allowing macros to do, then this devices and these macros should be allowed. Otherwise, why pay money for this devices? There is no adequate reason to prohibit the use of macros. The developers need to implement in the game proper and adequate protection from bots, which will be able to distinguish the boat from the person using macros. There is no excuse any bans on macros only because developers can not create antibot, able to distinguish bots from macro users.0 -
LaughingJack✭✭read the fine print people. you can use the device but not its extended functionality. if you are dumb enough to spend money on a piece of kit that is macro capable, with the sole intention of using macros, when the EULA/CoC prohibits use of marcos (etc.), thats your problem, stop crying about it.
also, addons are restricted via the API.Seeker of Shiny Objects
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glak✭✭✭LaughingJack wrote: »read the fine print people. you can use the device but not its extended functionality. if you are dumb enough to spend money on a piece of kit that is macro capable, with the sole intention of using macros, when the EULA/CoC prohibits use of marcos (etc.), thats your problem, stop crying about it.
also, addons are restricted via the API.
QEDQuadroTony wrote: »but addons are allowed
and addons has very close to marcoses functions
some addons
like craft 170 daggers with 1 click
automatically use drink or food when your buff is over0 -
QuadroTony✭✭✭✭✭i can run Multicraft addon to craft 170 daggers
i can write a macros to craft 170 daggers
result and action are the same
but i will banned for 2nd, and not banned for 1st?
ridiculous
many other mmo-games macroses are allowed
i believe ZOS need to review old and archaic TOSEdited by QuadroTony on May 28, 2015 12:13AM0 -
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So Wykkyd's macro addon is OK?QuadroTony wrote: »i can run Multicraft addon to craft 170 daggers
i can write a macros to craft 170 daggers
result and action are the same
but i will banned for 2nd, and not banned for 1st?
ridiculous
many other mmo-games macroses are allowed
i believe ZOS need to review old and archaic TOS
http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info736-WykkydsMacros.html0 -
QuadroTony✭✭✭✭✭all addons is ok
exclude some cases when addon can sent your gold to stragnger automatically by code(fixed in December)0 -
QuadroTony✭✭✭✭✭Go to 44:10
That part in the video actually says that macroing it is ok also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSjxZZTS1Uw
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Bouvin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Korereactor wrote: »Are we allowed to use macros in Razer Synapse? I'm thinking a cancel cast (using add-on) and then dodge, but I don't want to get banned for using it if it's not allowed.
Nope.
They've said in other threads you're allowed to use gaming mice and keyboards.
But you're not allowed to use the automation software that comes with them.
They even went so far as to say you're now allowed to use macros for EMOTES for RPing.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1827438/#Comment_1827438ZOS_MollyH wrote: »Hello @Casdha !
To clarify this a bit, using a third party program - in this case it would be your keyboard's profile software - to perform any game function is a violation of the ESOTU terms of service.
The phrase "change the game play experience" includes having third party software macros that automatically perform emotes. The game play experience in this case would be that it is designed to have you - the player - performing these actions manually, and by using a macro you are changing the game play experience.
Using macros, and using unapproved third party applications, programs, scripts or any other game modifying mechanic is a violation of the Terms of Service, and as such continuing to do so would put you at risk for having your account actioned.ZOS_MollyH wrote: »Hi @Casdha !
The use of gaming keyboards and mice are not prohibited, but the use of third-party software or other means of creating macros to automate in-game functions is a violation. I apologize for the confusion!
Just to clarify further, part of the Terms of Service document includes an agreement to follow other Supplemental Terms pertaining to Your Service and/or Game, such as a Code of Conduct, provide guidance on behavior that ZeniMax deems to be inappropriate and specify restrictions on Your Account, Your use of the Game, or Your participation in the Services.
There is a paragraph in the Terms of Service agreement that is as follows:
You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of ‘bots’, “speed hacks”, “deep-link”, “page-scrape”, “robot”, “spider”, algorithm or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums), software that transmits, manipulates, or distributes (including, but are limited to, “mirroring”) the data stream or any aspect of the Services to another computer, server websites or other publication or distribution media, or software that permits You to use Services without human input are examples of methods not authorized by ZeniMax
Whether it provides an advantage or not, utilizing macros do fall under this category and are prohibited. Please be sure to let us know if you still have any further questions or concerns!Edited by Bouvin on May 28, 2015 5:58PM0 -
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✭Rotherhans wrote: »The question isn´t if macros are botting, the question is ..are macros allowed?
I have the the pre-Razer n52te Speedpad and don´t use any macros either.
Quite frankly I always get slightly antsy about getting banned because of a badly set up banning rule if some MMO client detects the mandatory Razerapp.
No software that mimics a user input is allowed.
See above quotes.
Even binding a single EMOTE to a key with a macro is not allowed according to ZoS response.0 -
QuadroTony✭✭✭✭✭Case reopened.
They do it's just really really easy to miss. I missed it as well. The guy asking the question says that customer service said using macros to automate light attack weaving was ok. It's kind of nestled in there deep, after that they just talk about animation canceling. Start at 44:28. Now we don't have the original customer service ticket so it's still kind of up in the air.0 -
pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭Macros that simply press multiple keys at the same time are perfectly fine. Macros that use repeats or delays are NOT fine (that's botting).
Sorry but I can't help but laugh at the ignorance of this statement. You're incorrect. Botting means both automated and unattended, typically not at a computer or not requiring attention for automation to function. Controlling an input device in a more efficient way has never been cheating or botting. All input device control is software driven, be it a simple 2-button crap mouse and basic 104 key-keyboard layout or high-end gaming keyboard with all the programmable functions you can dream of.
I've been using logitech, razer, and ttesports keyboard & mouse software for keystroke, clicks, repeat sequences, including with timed delays for many years. I've also been using auto-it and other scripting programs for even more advanced sequences including clicking on specific parts of my screen with macros and even controlling multiple computers with one mouse & keyboard via KVM over IP control software. I started this with multi-boxing several characters at once in the original everquest and then advanced movement and 180º twitch-control macros for half-life and unreal over 15 years ago. I went on to multi-box two rogues at once for several years in WoW with players repeatedly accusing me of cheating after being a finalist in the 2004 leveling stress-test content then becoming my server's first rank14 Grand Marshal in 2005. Never been banned from any online game ever, not suspended, not sent a warning, not even reminded of code of conduct or anything. The only game or anti-cheat which has ever had an issue with my macros and scripts has been punkbuster, and that was in counter-strike 1.5 a long long time ago, and all it did was kick me until I turned off a bunny-hop macro.
To give you a taste of what i've done with ESO I have created a macro sequence that works in tandem with several add-ons that will swap equipment sets and skills then use the appropriately-slotted duration buffs (evasion, defensive posture, restoring aura, etc). Bound to F1-F8 I can swap gear and skills, then use buff abilities before pulling in group-dungeons by pressing 1 button. Takes all of 3 seconds. I do it before each difficult pull to always have the most appropriate skills and gear for each type of enemy that is being engaged.End the tedious inventory management game.0 -
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If a gun is produced, allowing shooting random people, carrying a gun and shooting random people should be allowed. Sound logic you have there.StrangerFull wrote: »If the devices is produced, allowing macros to do, then this devices and these macros should be allowed. Otherwise, why pay money for this devices? There is no adequate reason to prohibit the use of macros. The developers need to implement in the game proper and adequate protection from bots, which will be able to distinguish the boat from the person using macros. There is no excuse any bans on macros only because developers can not create antibot, able to distinguish bots from macro users.
The problem with macros is that they're more precise and more reliable than any human can be. You can execute a perfect skill combo with minimal delay and be more effective than a player doing it manually. This puts you at an unfair advantage. That said, am I really going to get banned for using MultiCraft and emote macros?
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