Ex Employee or Troll?

gordonbennett

Re: OP

The technique of 'trolling' described is one used in the real world (what's that???) by journalists, private investigators and people who wish to spread rumour and gossip-- your actual troll/disgruntled employee/rival company etc..

The former two use it to fish for information by positing a dire scenario and waiting for the denial. The last type spreads illness and disease.

All three are dealt with by silence.

Nordak

dbennett707cub18_ESO wrote: »

Not buying this as legit, because he says there is no item logging. I spoke on the phone to a support rep. who could see every item I had ever deleted and even read them back to me.

I call BS unless you recorded it.

Vlas

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi folks,

We don't believe the person who made those posts is a former or current member of the ZeniMax Online Studios development team; there have been no such layoffs.

I thought about applying, but the lack of communication to the public tells me there are some internal struggles going on that I dont want to be apart of.

Good luck with that search, I know your network needs the attention.

Kyotee0071

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

I think Zenimax is like SE in the regards theyd rather shut the game down than go F2P

Which company is SE?

robacooperb16_ESO

Ahhhh... was wondering how long it'd be before the "past employee" trolls appeared to make their attacks/trolling attempts. They are a slightly more "evolved" (using the term very lightly) to the professional curmudgeon that usually hit in the first wave of a game's release.

Vlas

Kyotee0071 wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

I think Zenimax is like SE in the regards theyd rather shut the game down than go F2P

Which company is SE?

Square Enix

Zolyok

Here come the dysinformational troll squad.
They're poping like gold spammer and bot i see
The first month is almost over "Hate is coming"( )
As usual some frustated player trying to convince themself that they made the good choice by dropping the game because they cant just stop and leave.And trying to convince everybody that the game is worthless.

starkerealm

Perseas wrote: »

Its not good to go F2P, because this guy claims that... decrease the sub fee to half and implement some sandbox content, that you could add some micro-transactions... Add some unique treasures and sells treasure packs... Like the ones in Swtor (a chance to get a super treasure.. and stuff like this)... Add some more styling in the crafting, that you could EXTREMELY hard gain by playing, or buying it via ur store..

f2p, all people who paid, will leave

No. *** no! If This game goes in for the kind of *** nickle and diming that TOR did, I'm out. I did not pay 80 bucks so that I could then turn around and have to buy the ability to equip legendaries for 20 dollars. I didn't spend 80 bucks so I could turn around and have to cough up more so I could run.

Rainbow

starkerealm wrote: »

Perseas wrote: »

Its not good to go F2P, because this guy claims that... decrease the sub fee to half and implement some sandbox content, that you could add some micro-transactions... Add some unique treasures and sells treasure packs... Like the ones in Swtor (a chance to get a super treasure.. and stuff like this)... Add some more styling in the crafting, that you could EXTREMELY hard gain by playing, or buying it via ur store..

f2p, all people who paid, will leave

No. *** no! If This game goes in for the kind of *** nickle and diming that TOR did, I'm out. I did not pay 80 bucks so that I could then turn around and have to buy the ability to equip legendaries for 20 dollars. I didn't spend 80 bucks so I could turn around and have to cough up more so I could run.

Well, Rift became F2P and isn't Pay to win, they make all their cash from cosmetics and the armour they sell for cash is really bad, can get better stuff from a dungeon/crafting lol

Evergreen

starkerealm wrote: »

Perseas wrote: »

Its not good to go F2P, because this guy claims that... decrease the sub fee to half and implement some sandbox content, that you could add some micro-transactions... Add some unique treasures and sells treasure packs... Like the ones in Swtor (a chance to get a super treasure.. and stuff like this)... Add some more styling in the crafting, that you could EXTREMELY hard gain by playing, or buying it via ur store..

f2p, all people who paid, will leave

No. *** no! If This game goes in for the kind of *** nickle and diming that TOR did, I'm out. I did not pay 80 bucks so that I could then turn around and have to buy the ability to equip legendaries for 20 dollars. I didn't spend 80 bucks so I could turn around and have to cough up more so I could run.

I'm not defending the f2p model TOR did but if ESO does go f2p I hope they at least give subscribers the equivalent of cartel coins to spend in whatever cash shop they set up. In TOR at least as a subscriber you had full access to all features and received the cartel coin bonus to spend in the market. There were unique ships and mounts you could only get through the market. What I really hated about TOR's cash shop was the legalized gambling aspect of it with cartel packs. That was just too greedy even unethical imo.

trooperrabbit_ESO

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Ketobbey wrote: »

As I have read on redit you are looking for more staff. Your hiring like crazy is what I read in network engineering.
Some people just cry wolf...

That's true, @Ketobbey. (Shameless plug)

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌
Your position is the one labelled Community Coordinator?

I find myself strangely drawn to that posting even though I'm already employed as a Software Engineer elsewhere. O:

crush83

I do know this though. Most of the senior developers will have already left or been let go simply because they don't need them at this point of the process. Now the company will bring on more maintenance and content developers. The framework has been put in place. So, it shouldn't be seen as a negative thing that the senior developers have been let go. The infrastructure is there for the content and maintenance developers to grow upon.

The question is will they do it right, or will they rush everything and push out a big buggy rat nest of crap.

You can get 2 content/maintenance developers for the price of 1 senior developer (sometimes 3 or 4 even).

They are a lot like television producers. They are there for the initial inception, then they are moving on to the next big project, passing the reigns off to someone else to maintain.

Arwyn

This happens with every new game, every time theres an "Ex employee" who says about the same stuff.

epoling

LOL -this seems like a fun game. "I am an ex-ZOS employee and I will tell you...." ummm... my contribution - I am an ex-ZOS employee and I can tell you that they are changing the game to only play on Commodore 64 computers as of June. It will be all 16-bit graphics and sprites. Ohh, and everybody gets a free in-game rainbow pony character that can solve all quests by blowing strawberries and kisses out their rear ends.

moxsapphire_ESO

How is this thread even allowed to exist? It is so in violation of forum rules it baffles the mind.

Swindrel

If ESO ever become Free to play, Hmm. I guess there would be 8 year old noobish fanboy kids that would ruin the game. I hope it never become f2p forever. This game is awesome. and I'm enjoying it with all the people.

Sakiri

starkerealm wrote: »

Khal_Kitte wrote: »

(a distinct lack of collect 20 bear arses where not all bears have the item style quests)

Leaving the age old question unanswered: What kind of a freak wants 20 bear asses...

Wait... that came out wrong.

The guy selling bear ass steaks, ground bear ass burger meat, bear ass roasts..

NordJitsu

Personally I don't care that much how they charge me. As long as the game is enjoyable I'll be happy.

I thought GW2 did the B2P thing in a reasonable way and it wouldn't upset me to see ZOS do the same.

I'd prefer they keep the sub though because a F2P move would be seen as a sign of failure.

Elember

Sounds to me he/she either used to work for Zenimax or applied to and got turned down, and now he/she is trying to make the company look bad due to what ever happened to them...simple case of wanton backlash due to what ever happened.

I have played just about every MMO there is out there and it has been a very long time since I have had this much fun in any of them. Why? you might be asking? Well I am finding the leveling experience to be somewhat of a challenge as I am usually pushing myself ahead of the content and trying to do quests that are several levels above me. This makes the game challenging and that is something severely lacking in MMO design now days.

The only thing I am concerned about is when I read about boss nerfs like the recent decrease in the abilities of Doshia, a boss in the fighters guild quest line. I don't like that the developer simply decides to nerf the boss when they could have just opened up that quest to grouping and then those who don't want the challenge can get some friends to help them and the ones who do want the challenge can analyze and change tactics and strategies to beat the boss...

Please Zenimax DO NOT just nerf bosses because that is the easiest thing to do it will ruin the game faster then anything else.

starkerealm

epoling wrote: »

LOL -this seems like a fun game. "I am an ex-ZOS employee and I will tell you...." ummm... my contribution - I am an ex-ZOS employee and I can tell you that they are changing the game to only play on Commodore 64 computers as of June. It will be all 16-bit graphics and sprites. Ohh, and everybody gets a free in-game rainbow pony character that can solve all quests by blowing strawberries and kisses out their rear ends.

There actually was a guy in Star Trek Online that would pretend to be a dev. He was actually semi-delusional and thought he was one, but for people who knew who he was, he was a constant source of unintentional entertainment. He used to claim the reason he'd been banned from the forums was because the moderators were "jealous" of his role.

Finally got himself banned for spoofing their website.

starkerealm

Rainbow wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Perseas wrote: »

Its not good to go F2P, because this guy claims that... decrease the sub fee to half and implement some sandbox content, that you could add some micro-transactions... Add some unique treasures and sells treasure packs... Like the ones in Swtor (a chance to get a super treasure.. and stuff like this)... Add some more styling in the crafting, that you could EXTREMELY hard gain by playing, or buying it via ur store..

f2p, all people who paid, will leave

No. *** no! If This game goes in for the kind of *** nickle and diming that TOR did, I'm out. I did not pay 80 bucks so that I could then turn around and have to buy the ability to equip legendaries for 20 dollars. I didn't spend 80 bucks so I could turn around and have to cough up more so I could run.

Well, Rift became F2P and isn't Pay to win, they make all their cash from cosmetics and the armour they sell for cash is really bad, can get better stuff from a dungeon/crafting lol

The issue is, he specifically cited TOR's model. Which was to just *** on the players until they coughed up cash.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

starkerealm wrote: »

Rainbow wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Perseas wrote: »

Its not good to go F2P, because this guy claims that... decrease the sub fee to half and implement some sandbox content, that you could add some micro-transactions... Add some unique treasures and sells treasure packs... Like the ones in Swtor (a chance to get a super treasure.. and stuff like this)... Add some more styling in the crafting, that you could EXTREMELY hard gain by playing, or buying it via ur store..

f2p, all people who paid, will leave

No. *** no! If This game goes in for the kind of *** nickle and diming that TOR did, I'm out. I did not pay 80 bucks so that I could then turn around and have to buy the ability to equip legendaries for 20 dollars. I didn't spend 80 bucks so I could turn around and have to cough up more so I could run.

Well, Rift became F2P and isn't Pay to win, they make all their cash from cosmetics and the armour they sell for cash is really bad, can get better stuff from a dungeon/crafting lol

The issue is, he specifically cited TOR's model. Which was to just *** on the players until they coughed up cash.

Most f2p models are like that.

crush83

Elember wrote: »

he/she is trying to make the company look bad due to what ever happened to them.

If that's the case, he/she could simply sit back and relax. They are doing a find job of making fools of themselves.

raglau

Garbrac wrote: »

He also goes on to claim that ZOS has laid off a lot of its Senior staff, now with ESO being as big as it is currently – least in the media sense – I would think we’d hear about any massive layoffs done by the studio.

We would hear about layoffs, that always makes news, even with the smaller players.

Rhian-Skybladeb16_ESO

If this is true... when this game goes FTP I am not playing it anymore, as much as it is going to pain me.
I have had terrible bad experience with FTP and I have seen what it does to good games. Even if they keep VIP / Subs intact - in the end it will still cost me more than a sub.

Plus, this "Free" to play is just one big bad joke and lie.
If you are a dedicated player who wants to advance and enjoy the content without any hinderance you have to pay... and FTP is very often far more expensive...and becomes very quickly a boring "Pay to Win".

This free To Play only applies to those goofy people who just fool around and do not really play the game itself - and use it more as a chat platform with pretty faces. Or those who successfully leech of VIPs

I do not mind if they offer some convenient stuff for real world money.
Like re-doing your looks, cosmetic stuff for clothes, colors for clothes... what not - everything that is just for the looks and fun.

Perseas

starkerealm wrote: »

Perseas wrote: »

Its not good to go F2P, because this guy claims that... decrease the sub fee to half and implement some sandbox content, that you could add some micro-transactions... Add some unique treasures and sells treasure packs... Like the ones in Swtor (a chance to get a super treasure.. and stuff like this)... Add some more styling in the crafting, that you could EXTREMELY hard gain by playing, or buying it via ur store..

f2p, all people who paid, will leave

No. *** no! If This game goes in for the kind of *** nickle and diming that TOR did, I'm out. I did not pay 80 bucks so that I could then turn around and have to buy the ability to equip legendaries for 20 dollars. I didn't spend 80 bucks so I could turn around and have to cough up more so I could run.

you mistranslate what I ve said.. I speak about equipment looks and style... cosmetics. Not abilities or stats. I would quit also, if they added vendors with epic tokens or sell the epics. Normally when they do that and it has a price, or its extremly hard to gain... And they also offer it via their store... They put more effort to look and feel nice...

I would love to have cape's. but this game even if it shows videos and pictures with capes, I havent found ANY cloth with cape... And thats an example.. They could add some motifs (purple or yellow) EXTREMELY hard to gain ingame.. or sell them, or make motif packs, treasure packs.

Gwarok

During my travels across the vastness of the internet in search of everything ESO, I have stumbled on some interesting posts.

Da propaganda iz be workin az intended.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi folks,

We don't believe the person who made those posts is a former or current member of the ZeniMax Online Studios development team; there have been no such layoffs.

If I had a gold coin for every one of those

posts is a former or current member of the ZeniMax Online Studios development team

I've ran across, I'd be hella rich.

starkerealm

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Rainbow wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Perseas wrote: »

Its not good to go F2P, because this guy claims that... decrease the sub fee to half and implement some sandbox content, that you could add some micro-transactions... Add some unique treasures and sells treasure packs... Like the ones in Swtor (a chance to get a super treasure.. and stuff like this)... Add some more styling in the crafting, that you could EXTREMELY hard gain by playing, or buying it via ur store..

f2p, all people who paid, will leave

No. *** no! If This game goes in for the kind of *** nickle and diming that TOR did, I'm out. I did not pay 80 bucks so that I could then turn around and have to buy the ability to equip legendaries for 20 dollars. I didn't spend 80 bucks so I could turn around and have to cough up more so I could run.

Well, Rift became F2P and isn't Pay to win, they make all their cash from cosmetics and the armour they sell for cash is really bad, can get better stuff from a dungeon/crafting lol

The issue is, he specifically cited TOR's model. Which was to just *** on the players until they coughed up cash.

Most f2p models are like that.

No. Most F2P models are "get the player invested, then lean on them to spend cash." TOR jumped the whole "get the player invested" part, and went straight to the leg breaking. Unless you know of another F2P that actually locked out HUD elements and tried to sell those back to the player.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Some guy was in the game saying he was a developer. He then retracted that and said he was close personal friends of the developers. He said stuff like he was allowed to keep his beta character and it was transferred to live. Then he claimed to have two masters degrees etc lol. So funny.

starkerealm

Perseas wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Perseas wrote: »

Its not good to go F2P, because this guy claims that... decrease the sub fee to half and implement some sandbox content, that you could add some micro-transactions... Add some unique treasures and sells treasure packs... Like the ones in Swtor (a chance to get a super treasure.. and stuff like this)... Add some more styling in the crafting, that you could EXTREMELY hard gain by playing, or buying it via ur store..

f2p, all people who paid, will leave

No. *** no! If This game goes in for the kind of *** nickle and diming that TOR did, I'm out. I did not pay 80 bucks so that I could then turn around and have to buy the ability to equip legendaries for 20 dollars. I didn't spend 80 bucks so I could turn around and have to cough up more so I could run.

you mistranslate what I ve said.. I speak about equipment looks and style... cosmetics. Not abilities or stats. I would quit also, if they added vendors with epic tokens or sell the epics. Normally when they do that and it has a price, or its extremly hard to gain... And they also offer it via their store... They put more effort to look and feel nice...

I would love to have cape's. but this game even if it shows videos and pictures with capes, I havent found ANY cloth with cape... And thats an example.. They could add some motifs (purple or yellow) EXTREMELY hard to gain ingame.. or sell them, or make motif packs, treasure packs.

Yeah, it comes with the example. If the game has to go F2P some day, then it has to go F2P... the problem is the TOR example.

I've never seen the same level of arrogance and contempt from a mainstream developer towards their customers as I did in TOR. Maybe not caring about EA Sports helps, but... ugh.

And that spilled all over the place in the F2P transition. Everything screamed to me, "you didn't understand our masterpiece? PAY US TRIBUTE PEONS!"