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Weapon swap delay
pecheckler
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I'm not seeing any mention about this problem in the "upcoming changes" details. Weapon swapping is very unreliable and can be between half a second to several seconds, completely random. Not even dependent on the animation of a previously used ability. Often mid-fight when swapping weapons I end up just standing there waiting for the weapon swap to occur. It's particularly serious an issue for healing. I see this issue frequently complained about to the point that nobody bothers to do so mid-combat.
End the tedious inventory management game.
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Hobotron✭✭✭Out of curiosity, are you using any actionbar or unitbar addons? If so, attempt disabling them and try again?2
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Anoteros✭✭✭✭it's not just weapon swapping that's delayed.
Abilities in general not firing off after a .5 delay is also occuring.5 -
Harkrider✭✭✭Yep.
Sometimes I've got to press the hotkey 2 or 3 times to switch weapons.
It's unresponsive at best and completely unreliable at worst.7 -
fassenkugelcub18_ESOSoul ShrivenWeapon swap delay-ed, u push it twice -> switch back to original weapon, GG. Other bad thing this 5 button actionbar. for example as sorcerer:
1. Cristal shard
2. Mage furry
3. Any weapon ability with cc, bow or desto staff
4. Bound Armor
5. Rune Prison
BUT I NEED TOO:
6.Weakness to Elements/poison arrow
7. Mageligth for spellcrit/snake detection
8. Annulment fo shilding: NEEEEEED!!!!!!
9. Soultrap or other funny stuff
This all need for effective pvp, or soloing wbosses and i can use only 2 weapon ability.
the static buff like mageligth or boud armor, pets must get a separate acitonbar and then the 5 button bar is ALMOST enough.6 -
Anoteros✭✭✭✭fassenkugelcub18_ESO wrote: »Weapon swap delay-ed, u push it twice -> switch back to original weapon, GG. Other bad thing this 5 button actionbar. for example as sorcerer:
1. Cristal shard
2. Mage furry
3. Any weapon ability with cc, bow or desto staff
4. Bound Armor
5. Rune Prison
BUT I NEED TOO:
6.Weakness to Elements/poison arrow
7. Mageligth for spellcrit/snake detection
8. Annulment fo shilding: NEEEEEED!!!!!!
9. Soultrap or other funny stuff
This all need for effective pvp, or soloing wbosses and i can use only 2 weapon ability.
the static buff like mageligth or boud armor, pets must get a separate acitonbar and then the 5 button bar is ALMOST enough.
That's what you get when playing a console mmorpg
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pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭Has anyone found an add-on that can magically fix the poor weapon swap responsiveness? I only ask because there are so many other simple add-ons which have fixed big problems or missing features with the game.End the tedious inventory management game.0
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Evergnar✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's awful for me at times. Especially in Cyrodiil. I've had really lag issues overall there though ever since two patches ago. Especially peak hours. NA server.1 -
I am pretty sure it is a delay. I have been testing it with a mechanical keyboard and the clicks are happening but the weapon swap is just not going through.
Pretty rough considering it is 50% of your abilities locked out (minus potions).3 -
babylon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I found this as well - really hard to deal with if you use two staff types as you can't really immediately tell which staff is currently active...you end up having to check the skillbar instead of being able to cast and pay attention to the environment.Edited by babylon on April 19, 2014 12:49AM2 -
fassenkugelcub18_ESOSoul Shrivenfassenkugelcub18_ESO wrote: »Weapon swap delay-ed, u push it twice -> switch back to original weapon, GG. Other bad thing this 5 button actionbar. for example as sorcerer:
That's what you get when playing a console mmorpg
well yes. but, the console version will have different realm, so the pc-console players will not mixed thats why. and i bet the 90% of subs will come from pc...1 -
JoxerHD✭Just a question for those people having these problems : which server, and where are you from?
I am from Europe (Netherlands), however I mainly play on the US server due to friends.
However when the US server was down I logged in to the EU server to muck around, and to my surprise i was having strange delays to my skills, exact same character build/race, same area I was in but... now with added skill delays.
Hopped back to US server, no delays, went to EU server, yup you guessed it... delays.
If your having delays try the "other" server, doesn't take long to make a character and grab a skill and see how you fare.2 -
Stonie✭✭Its a huge issue and its actually gotten worse for me.
Its THE main reason that gets me killed in the game while questing.
Another "bug" thats also connected to weapon switch is projectiles dissapearing mid-air when switching.
The bow abilitie "Snipe" has a long cast time and fires a projectile .. if you switch your weapon before the arrow has hit its target it just dissapears and no dmg is done.3 -
JoxerHD✭
I would have said I agree, IF however i was having lag on the US server, which... I do not.
At a guess the EU server is on a "lesser" server, older, or less powerful compared to the US server.
Edited by JoxerHD on April 21, 2014 7:09AM1 -
Nitratas✭✭✭Yes, it IS very unresponsive. I try to not rely on weapon swapping midfight in important fights because if i try to, that results in death or frustration most of the times.6
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When the EU server is finally there for EU players, also the weapon swap will not be existing anymore. I do hope so!
But I remember even Force has stated, playing in NA, that he experiences delays.
The responsiveness of skills and weapon-swaps needs to be addressed very, very soon - since these are key gameplay elements in how the player perceives "fun" in ESO.@Hrotha - EU3 -
Kraun✭✭It's highly unresponsive and unreliable to save your life (i got heal on my 2nd bar), also plenty of times, some skill will be like this too.
If the guy above is telling the truth, that he has no delays on US side from EU, then it's obvious we're being treated as second-hand customers in the EU side.2 -
R0M2K✭✭✭✭Im also experiencing that:
Delay in whatever i do: Skills & swapp
Sometimes i have to press the keys various times, sometimes the character plays the skill animation but the skill is not triggered...
Its becoming frustrating.1 -
Sakiri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Its unresponsive for me and Im in the US on NA server. Dont claim its just a EU thing.
Its gotten me killed. I keep all my defensives on my sword/board bar on my dk. Go to switch for dragons blood and spiked armor? GL.
No bar mod. No mods period.2 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Funny , i assumed mine is bad because i play from outside the states and thus i had a high ms.
Guess there is more to it eh.Edited by Nox_Aeterna on April 21, 2014 8:07AM"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
-Hanlon's razor1 -
patrikblb16_ESO✭✭✭pecheckler wrote: »I'm not seeing any mention about this problem in the "upcoming changes" details. Weapon swapping is very unreliable and can be between half a second to several seconds, completely random. Not even dependent on the animation of a previously used ability. Often mid-fight when swapping weapons I end up just standing there waiting for the weapon swap to occur. It's particularly serious an issue for healing. I see this issue frequently complained about to the point that nobody bothers to do so mid-combat.
It's the "MEGAServer™®©℗" that is lagging, nothing we can do about it, the connection between the servernodes is too weak to handle the amount of data in a timely manner.
Maybe they should have went for a "GIGAServer™®©℗" instead...1 -
i am (kinda) glad i am not alone. this delay is on weapon swapping, abilities, and i think even potions. i was spamming the "q" key and the pot never went off. i have even seen the abilities "depress" as if activated and nothing happens or when something does, its either the effect only or animation only. the real fun is when you hit it once-nothing, twice-nothing, double tap it and then it blasts out the ability two times in a row. all other surrounding activity isnt slowed/hiccuped/delayed so i cant say it is lag, but i cant say it isnt either.I will work. I will save. I will sacrifice. I will endure. I will fight cheerfully and do my utmost, as if the whole issue of the struggle depended on me alone.
Martin A. Treptow
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Decimatia✭✭Weapon swapping has been sluggish at best since as far back as I can tell (attended numerous beta weekends) and more often than not it seems that I will end up either- Mashing the swap key just as I am the other abilities causing me to swap twice or
- Consciously in the midst of mashing other keys hit weapon swap one time and wait patiently for my character to actually swap weapons and in the case of the latter about 10-20% of the time I do this my character wont even swap forcing me to hit the key a second time.
It's unfortunate because the entire point of the ability is at odds with its own performance. I'm assume the behavior has something to do with the way the client and server handle the action. For example -
You would assume the client would simultaneously take the action locally while sending the information about what was done to the server and allow the server to agree the action was taken and respond accordingly. Like the client saying "Hey, I just swapped weapons, ok?" and the server says "Acknowledged, you swapped weapons a moment ago."
It feels to me like the client is instead sending the information to the server and awaiting the response from the server BEFORE invoking any action locally. Like the client says "Hey, the player wants to swap weapons, is this cool?" and the server responds "Acknowledged, the player may swap weapons" and the client then says "Ok, server acknowledged the swap request so here you go dude, I'm swapping weapons NOW."
I may be completely wrong, but based on how muddy the ability feels I think something along these lines is responsible for the lack of responsiveness this ability really NEEDS in order to properly perform its intended function. Or maybe some milk drinker wrote the code for that one. I think we can all agree on one thing though - this ability needs some work under the hood desperately.Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a VERY delicate state of mind...3 -
I am NA server and get a bag lag delay in combat situations. Lag on my abilities firing, lag on my actions and movements. Whereas the NPC appears to have 0 lag. They swing at me just fine.
On certain occassions, i will stop moving, but the game obviously still thinks i am, because a monster 50 feet ahead of me will suddenly come running at where I stopped moving in a strange sliding fashing with no animations on the NPC until it reaches me. And If i backpeda, the mob will warp around wildly makign it impossible to target (like i could use an ability anyways) and all the while it still continues to hit me as if nothing out of the ordinary is taking place.1 -
I think the EU server is still temp. being housed here in the U.S.
So it probably is not a high quality server cluster. I imagine that once they actually have the EU server up in the EU, it should get better...1 -
Bushy808ub17_ESO wrote: »I am NA server and get a bag lag delay in combat situations. Lag on my abilities firing, lag on my actions and movements. Whereas the NPC appears to have 0 lag. They swing at me just fine.
On certain occassions, i will stop moving, but the game obviously still thinks i am, because a monster 50 feet ahead of me will suddenly come running at where I stopped moving in a strange sliding fashing with no animations on the NPC until it reaches me. And If i backpeda, the mob will warp around wildly makign it impossible to target (like i could use an ability anyways) and all the while it still continues to hit me as if nothing out of the ordinary is taking place.
same here. its not the norm but it does happen, and it does kill just not the mobs =/I will work. I will save. I will sacrifice. I will endure. I will fight cheerfully and do my utmost, as if the whole issue of the struggle depended on me alone.
Martin A. Treptow
1894-19180
