VERY HARD TO JUSTIFY

Warlordgreebo

I know, issues with launch. I know the tech is beyond what all others have done before.

What I also know is; the game as it currently stands this moment is unplayable/unenjoyable for me, as well as many other subscribers(your system ENSURES that we are all subbed now, and so it is).

Yes, I could go 'play wow..." and EVERY other mmo out there. More and more- this isnt such a bad idea. Because those titles actually work!

I feel like the usual 30 days 'free' for buying the game... aint gonna cut it. More like 90 days; and thats only IF everything works for the last 60 days!

Trying not to lose faith here. Between the spammers (who manage to send guild invites to me constantly, as well as mails!) and the general nonfunctionality of the system... this game is becoming an ungreebly experience.

Harkrider

Exactly what issues are you having that makes the game so unplayable that you feel entitled to multiple months of free access? Can you please elaborate?

Oblongship

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

I know, issues with launch. I know the tech is beyond what all others have done before.

What I also know is; the game as it currently stands this moment is unplayable/unenjoyable for me, as well as many other subscribers(your system ENSURES that we are all subbed now, and so it is).

Yes, I could go 'play wow..." and EVERY other mmo out there. More and more- this isnt such a bad idea. Because those titles actually work!

I feel like the usual 30 days 'free' for buying the game... aint gonna cut it. More like 90 days; and thats only IF everything works for the last 60 days!

Trying not to lose faith here. Between the spammers (who manage to send guild invites to me constantly, as well as mails!) and the general nonfunctionality of the system... this game is becoming an ungreebly experience.

I agree with the frustration factor but 3 months of free play....you are just dreaming and unreasonable from a business perspective.

aegis156

Most nights this seems more like a Paid Alpha than a gold release

Vyndeleron

Song sums up ESO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrdN6t_0rvQ

Warlordgreebo

What isnt broken? Answer me that. The group system; broken. Mail system; broken. Bank system; broken. PVP system AND CHAT SYSTEM broken.

If communicating with others and playing with them is the point; then the entire game is broken. Chat, mail, bank, guild, etc etc... ALL have problems to the point of near nonfunctionality.

Saerydoth

Honestly, for the issues experienced so far, I can see at most a few days of free time. And honestly they will probably do this.

aegis156

Clotholachesisatropos666b14_ESO wrote: »

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

I know, issues with launch. I know the tech is beyond what all others have done before.

What I also know is; the game as it currently stands this moment is unplayable/unenjoyable for me, as well as many other subscribers(your system ENSURES that we are all subbed now, and so it is).

Yes, I could go 'play wow..." and EVERY other mmo out there. More and more- this isnt such a bad idea. Because those titles actually work!

I feel like the usual 30 days 'free' for buying the game... aint gonna cut it. More like 90 days; and thats only IF everything works for the last 60 days!

Trying not to lose faith here. Between the spammers (who manage to send guild invites to me constantly, as well as mails!) and the general nonfunctionality of the system... this game is becoming an ungreebly experience.

I've had only a few issues with the game andb its completely playable and enjoyable for more people, then not. To say otherwise is just greedy, its like a kid who wants his toy. " I want my toy now" "now now now now" also its kind of like this too. " but I want an oompa loompa now daddy"... and you remember what happened to her right? Its called patience get some. I won't respond to this ever again, feel free to insult and troll me lol you will be talking only to yourself

insult people and run away, whats the word I'm looking for here?

Vyndeleron

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

What isnt broken? Answer me that. The group system; broken. Mail system; broken. Bank system; broken. PVP system AND CHAT SYSTEM broken.

If communicating with others and playing with them is the point; then the entire game is broken. Chat, mail, bank, guild, etc etc... ALL have problems to the point of near nonfunctionality.

It's just like Rift with patch 2.6 and the couple weeks it took to fix the social features being turned off then on then off then on....

Quick get Trion on the phone they have the solution!

Harkrider

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

What isnt broken? Answer me that. The group system; broken. Mail system; broken. Bank system; broken. PVP system AND CHAT SYSTEM broken.

If communicating with others and playing with them is the point; then the entire game is broken. Chat, mail, bank, guild, etc etc... ALL have problems to the point of near nonfunctionality.

I've run literally dozens of dungeons without issue.

I'm constantly selling items through chat and sending them through the mail system.

My bank has zero issues whatsoever (although I am aware that others aren't so luck in this regard, and I hope their bank issues get fixed ASAP).

Chat is laggy because of server stress. Big f'ing deal.

Guild system works just fine. If you guild 'disappeared' then wait a couple minutes and it will show up. Again... Big f'ing deal.

Warlordgreebo

At this point, there so much broken; it was so nonfunctional we had to give up on pvp. This is a group of 20+ players - over the course of the group probably 30 people sorted in and out.

Chat system - not working. Guild functions- not working. Bank system - not working.

The real question is; WHAT ISNT BROKEN? Cuz im seeing a level of nonfunctionality that isn't present in a working system.

Oblongship

Harkrider wrote: »

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

What isnt broken? Answer me that. The group system; broken. Mail system; broken. Bank system; broken. PVP system AND CHAT SYSTEM broken.

If communicating with others and playing with them is the point; then the entire game is broken. Chat, mail, bank, guild, etc etc... ALL have problems to the point of near nonfunctionality.

I've run literally dozens of dungeons without issue.

I'm constantly selling items through chat and sending them through the mail system.

My bank has zero issues whatsoever (although I am aware that others aren't so luck in this regard, and I hope their bank issues get fixed ASAP).

Chat is laggy because of server stress. Big f'ing deal.

Guild system works just fine. If you guild 'disappeared' then wait a couple minutes and it will show up. Again... Big f'ing deal.

Well since you aren't having issues no one else is right?

Big F'ing deal

rofl....*facepalm*

Warlordgreebo

Harkrider wrote: »

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

What isnt broken? Answer me that. The group system; broken. Mail system; broken. Bank system; broken. PVP system AND CHAT SYSTEM broken.

If communicating with others and playing with them is the point; then the entire game is broken. Chat, mail, bank, guild, etc etc... ALL have problems to the point of near nonfunctionality.

I've run literally dozens of dungeons without issue.

I'm constantly selling items through chat and sending them through the mail system.

My bank has zero issues whatsoever (although I am aware that others aren't so luck in this regard, and I hope their bank issues get fixed ASAP).

Chat is laggy because of server stress. Big f'ing deal.

Guild system works just fine. If you guild 'disappeared' then wait a couple minutes and it will show up. Again... Big f'ing deal.

then you are one lucky dude. In game RIGHT NOW I have seen a system of nonfunction/nonplayable for over 50 + players.

MysticAura

Gold selling is common in every MMO and it takes a while to be dealt with. If you've read these forums you know they are banning gold sellers as they wade through the thousands of reports they're getting.

Asking for an extra 60 days free , is not likely to happen. The game is very playable. Ignore and report gold sellers. Get spamfilter. Sitting and making demands will not improve your situation. Do something constructive about it. Help get rid of the gold sellers. Or if you don't feel like making that effort, then at least ignore them so you do not see them.

This game is barely out of launch. If you expected no bugs, you were wrong.

Not everyone is experiencing these issues. I'm sorry you are, but they will be fixed.

Vyndeleron

Time for a joke to calm people down...

How many ZOS CSRs does it take to screw in a light-bulb...

None it wasn't working to begin with and "insert copy-paste response" oh wait just made the situation worse...

Harkrider

Oblongship wrote: »

Harkrider wrote: »

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

What isnt broken? Answer me that. The group system; broken. Mail system; broken. Bank system; broken. PVP system AND CHAT SYSTEM broken.

If communicating with others and playing with them is the point; then the entire game is broken. Chat, mail, bank, guild, etc etc... ALL have problems to the point of near nonfunctionality.

I've run literally dozens of dungeons without issue.

I'm constantly selling items through chat and sending them through the mail system.

My bank has zero issues whatsoever (although I am aware that others aren't so luck in this regard, and I hope their bank issues get fixed ASAP).

Chat is laggy because of server stress. Big f'ing deal.

Guild system works just fine. If you guild 'disappeared' then wait a couple minutes and it will show up. Again... Big f'ing deal.

Well since you aren't having issues no one else is right?

Big F'ing deal

rofl....*facepalm*

Perhaps you missed the part where I acknowledged issues that other people are having and wished them a speedy fix. It's okay, reading comprehension is hard for some people.

aegis156

From the looks of things I'm not the only one who gave up trying to lvl in game and moved over to lvl on the forums Loads more fun

Warlordgreebo

[/quote]I've run literally dozens of dungeons without issue.

I'm constantly selling items through chat and sending them through the mail system.

My bank has zero issues whatsoever (although I am aware that others aren't so luck in this regard, and I hope their bank issues get fixed ASAP).

Chat is laggy because of server stress. Big f'ing deal.

Guild system works just fine. If you guild 'disappeared' then wait a couple minutes and it will show up. Again... Big f'ing deal.[/quote]

Dungeons? might be the ONLY thing not broken. But chat is so screwed up, getting a group together for that, and being able to complete it, doubtful.

By the way, brain... login shows that ALL GUILD FUNCTIONS have been disabled. So if your guild system is working fine; I have serious doubts about your honesty.

Ill run a repair right now just to make sure I havent missed anything.

7788b14_ESO

I pve and I notice the game plays well during the day (-6 CST). In the evening it's been getting stranger and stranger. Timing with fighting getting way off. Skills not working when you hit them. Once today my healing skills were all inactive with full bars of magicka. I play everyday and the problems have been slowly escalating. I like this game but another week of this and I may not finish out my 30 days.

Oblongship

Harkrider wrote: »

Oblongship wrote: »

Harkrider wrote: »

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

What isnt broken? Answer me that. The group system; broken. Mail system; broken. Bank system; broken. PVP system AND CHAT SYSTEM broken.

If communicating with others and playing with them is the point; then the entire game is broken. Chat, mail, bank, guild, etc etc... ALL have problems to the point of near nonfunctionality.

I've run literally dozens of dungeons without issue.

I'm constantly selling items through chat and sending them through the mail system.

My bank has zero issues whatsoever (although I am aware that others aren't so luck in this regard, and I hope their bank issues get fixed ASAP).

Chat is laggy because of server stress. Big f'ing deal.

Guild system works just fine. If you guild 'disappeared' then wait a couple minutes and it will show up. Again... Big f'ing deal.

Well since you aren't having issues no one else is right?

Big F'ing deal

rofl....*facepalm*

Perhaps you missed the part where I acknowledged issues that other people are having and wished them a speedy fix. It's okay, reading comprehension is hard for some people.

Yet still maganged to say "Big F'ing Deal".....

I think you missed the part where that is uncalled for and reducing the major problems others have because you aren't having them just makes you look like a tool.

Harkrider

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

Harkrider wrote: »

Warlordgreebo wrote: »

What isnt broken? Answer me that. The group system; broken. Mail system; broken. Bank system; broken. PVP system AND CHAT SYSTEM broken.

If communicating with others and playing with them is the point; then the entire game is broken. Chat, mail, bank, guild, etc etc... ALL have problems to the point of near nonfunctionality.

I've run literally dozens of dungeons without issue.

I'm constantly selling items through chat and sending them through the mail system.

My bank has zero issues whatsoever (although I am aware that others aren't so luck in this regard, and I hope their bank issues get fixed ASAP).

Chat is laggy because of server stress. Big f'ing deal.

Guild system works just fine. If you guild 'disappeared' then wait a couple minutes and it will show up. Again... Big f'ing deal.

then you are one lucky dude. In game RIGHT NOW I have seen a system of nonfunction/nonplayable for over 50 + players.

I agree, I am lucky and grateful that the bank issue hasn't affected me.

Whatever broken group and mail systems you're referring to is completely unheard of by me. I've run at least 50+ dungeons already and I've not once had any issue with the mailing system (aside from the few hours they disabled it due to a duping exploit, which is completely understandable).

However, chat lag and a slow-to-load guild pane isn't a big deal to me.

Harkrider

Vyndeleron wrote: »

Time for a joke to calm people down...

How many ZOS CSRs does it take to screw in a light-bulb...

None it wasn't working to begin with and "inset copy-paste response" oh wait just made the situation worse...

Don't worry, they've got a specialized team to deal with your issue!

Grimth

Congratz on the game being playable for you. Not everyone is so lucky. The game isn't playable to me. Losing those extra bank slots crippled my playing. I gather everything I come across because I love crafting in this game. With only 60 bank slots for an account I don't any room in my bags to go play the game. Congratz on being able to play the game. I can't play so I've canceled my sub. They have already screwed me out of the price of unplayable game. Not going to pay sub to company that keep a game running. I'll come back when the game goes F2P. I think ESO is going to beat TOR on sub lose rate.

felixgamingx1

I think imma cancel my sub, this game did not meet my expectations.

Harkrider

felixgamingx1 wrote: »

I think imma cancel my sub, this game did not meet my expectations.

I'm sorry to hear that.

Warlordgreebo

Only way the game is playable right now is; get all your people on vent, and operate like that. Give up on buying/banking/doing anything that requires you to do ANYTHING other than kill npc.

Then yah, maybe it 'isnt broken:)

Harkrider

Grimth wrote: »

Congratz on the game being playable for you. Not everyone is so lucky. The game isn't playable to me. Losing those extra bank slots crippled my playing. I gather everything I come across because I love crafting in this game. With only 60 bank slots for an account I don't any room in my bags to go play the game. Congratz on being able to play the game. I can't play so I've canceled my sub. They have already screwed me out of the price of unplayable game. Not going to pay sub to company that keep a game running. I'll come back when the game goes F2P. I think ESO is going to beat TOR on sub lose rate.

So a broken bank system makes a game unplayable for you? Just clarifying...

Grimth

When I have no place to place items. All my characters have 90% of the bags are full.

Different play styles for different people.

Warlordgreebo

Harkrider wrote: »

Grimth wrote: »

Congratz on the game being playable for you. Not everyone is so lucky. The game isn't playable to me. Losing those extra bank slots crippled my playing. I gather everything I come across because I love crafting in this game. With only 60 bank slots for an account I don't any room in my bags to go play the game. Congratz on being able to play the game. I can't play so I've canceled my sub. They have already screwed me out of the price of unplayable game. Not going to pay sub to company that keep a game running. I'll come back when the game goes F2P. I think ESO is going to beat TOR on sub lose rate.

So a broken bank system makes a game unplayable for you? Just clarifying...

Cant chat, cant mail, cant do guild, cant bank, cant pvp, cant zone.

At this point you are pissing against the wind son, by even trying to justify this you make yourself invalid.

Harkrider

Grimth wrote: »

When I have no place to place items. All my characters have 90% of the bags are full.

Maybe you should get rid of some clutter.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Maybe for a couple days do something else. I play multiple games. LOTRO for example has an update tomorrow and the 7 year annv fest coming up on the 16th.