New werewolf is fluffy and so cute...but still useless?

AvalonRanger · June 29

New werewolf is fluffy and so cute appearance...but still useless?

My puppy got lv10 and also earn several skill point already. But...
Wood Elf mankind style is far more powerful than werewolf form.
I tested at overland boss with season difficulty. And it's confirmed.

...Is it just role playing toy?

spartaxoxo · June 29

Werewolf is plenty strong right now but you'll want a build specifically for werewolves

CP5 · June 29

I've been running with the werewolf active during the past few weeks during my friends dungeon runs and it has been especially good, except for when I say "i'm sturdy" and get instantly splattered by karma. But it has a lot going for it when built right.

Soarora · June 29

I'm playing Vestige on werewolf and it goes really well for me. Just need to build for it-- like having the set Savage Werewolf.

Arunei · June 29

What's your build?

I have two WWs, one on my main account and one on my alt. My main account is coming up on 1.9k CP, my alt is super behind at CP289. While I do have a bit of trouble soloing WBs on my alt, my main can handle all I've thrown at her aside for the stupid Guar at Caravan Crest. I hate that Boss, in regards to Alliance Zone WBs it's so oddly overtuned.

Anyway, I don't have a super optimized build on either account. Both my accounts run Deadly Strike and Tide-Born Wildstalker, as Deadly boosts Brutal Carnage and Claw Fury, while Tide-Born boosts Claw Fury and Rip and Tear. My main account is a Khajiit with Slimecraw Head for Crit Chance and Oakensoul as a Mythic. Her four active Warfare CP are Master-At-Arms, Wrathful Strikes, Deadly Aim (boosts Rip and Tear as an execute), and Biting Aura. My alt has...none of those CP, and is using Hunding's Shoulder for the Crit Chance. She also has no Mythcs since I don't have Greymoor on that account.

Both my WWs use Berserker, Brutal Pounce, Hircine's Rage, Ferocious Roar, Claw Fury, and Rip and Tear. I usually open with Ferocious Roar twice to boost Claw Fury, Hircine's Rage, then Pounce, Carnage three times for max timer, Claw Fury, then Rip and Tear for Sunder. Ferocious Roar twice again to boost Claw Fury fully, Claw Fury, repeat Ferocious Roar x2 and Claw Fury while reapplying Hircine's Rage and Sunder again as need until the enemy is in Execute range. Then I spam Ferocious Roar and Rip and Tear. I also use Hircine's Rage as I need to in order to restore Stam.

For bosses, I just block and spam Ferocious Roar, Rip and Tear, and Hircine's Rage. I don't bother with Claw Fury because it doesn't do much damage in the short time I'd have to use it before needing to block something.

If you need more tankiness, Pack Leader would be the better option since it gets Major Protection and 15% Block Mitigation. I prefer Berserker though after trying both, though, I do sometimes swap to Pack Leader for stuff I need a bit more survivability for.

Erickson9610 · June 29

AvalonRanger wrote: »

New werewolf is fluffy and so cute appearance...but still useless?

My puppy got lv10 and also earn several skill point already. But...
Wood Elf mankind style is far more powerful than werewolf form.
I tested at overland boss with season difficulty. And it's confirmed.

...Is it just role playing toy?

Is the new werewolf cute, though? It seems pretty terrifying to me. Definitely don't want to make one of those werewolves angry, you know?

NotaDaedraWorshipper · June 29

Fluffy? Still looks like it's some wereskeever or werehyena to me, with those weird areas of fur and long ears.

Erickson9610 · June 29

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Fluffy? Still looks like it's some wereskeever or werehyena to me, with those weird areas of fur and long ears.

In my eyes, the new werewolf models are considerably fluffier than the old model. The distribution of fur density is reminiscent of Skyrim's werewolf model, which I really like. I think it looks way more interesting than it would look if it had the same fluffiness all over the body with wolf-like ears. Werewolves are monsters, not dogs.

Trier_Sero · June 29

Werewolf is the most op thing in the game right now.

beer781993 · June 29

Useless? Lol. That thing is op. Best Pvp Brawler, close to immortal.

It's extremely strong in PVE too. In Raid you play Null Arca, Savage Werewolf and signet for nearly top damage. You can also use the lover mundus for penetration if not provided.

In 4 Man you play light armor, Depths,Signet and Savage Werewolf to get the penetration.

There are many ways to make it extremely powerful. There is surely an easy variant for solo play as well. Just look at YT for more builds.

IZZEFlameLash · June 29

It is pretty fun to play if you are with a group. PvE is very much enjoyable with it. It is good enough to have full WW fun causal raids in PvP too. But, don't expect magic level up in your gameplay in both aspects though.

Gabriel_H · June 29

One of the strongest builds in the game, in pretty much every area, just like DKs who also had a refresh. Which bodes well for all the refreshes.

AvalonRanger · June 29

Arunei wrote: »

What's your build?

I have two WWs, one on my main account and one on my alt. My main account is coming up on 1.9k CP, my alt is super behind at CP289. While I do have a bit of trouble soloing WBs on my alt, my main can handle all I've thrown at her aside for the stupid Guar at Caravan Crest. I hate that Boss, in regards to Alliance Zone WBs it's so oddly overtuned.

Anyway, I don't have a super optimized build on either account. Both my accounts run Deadly Strike and Tide-Born Wildstalker, as Deadly boosts Brutal Carnage and Claw Fury, while Tide-Born boosts Claw Fury and Rip and Tear. My main account is a Khajiit with Slimecraw Head for Crit Chance and Oakensoul as a Mythic. Her four active Warfare CP are Master-At-Arms, Wrathful Strikes, Deadly Aim (boosts Rip and Tear as an execute), and Biting Aura. My alt has...none of those CP, and is using Hunding's Shoulder for the Crit Chance. She also has no Mythcs since I don't have Greymoor on that account.

Both my WWs use Berserker, Brutal Pounce, Hircine's Rage, Ferocious Roar, Claw Fury, and Rip and Tear. I usually open with Ferocious Roar twice to boost Claw Fury, Hircine's Rage, then Pounce, Carnage three times for max timer, Claw Fury, then Rip and Tear for Sunder. Ferocious Roar twice again to boost Claw Fury fully, Claw Fury, repeat Ferocious Roar x2 and Claw Fury while reapplying Hircine's Rage and Sunder again as need until the enemy is in Execute range. Then I spam Ferocious Roar and Rip and Tear. I also use Hircine's Rage as I need to in order to restore Stam.

For bosses, I just block and spam Ferocious Roar, Rip and Tear, and Hircine's Rage. I don't bother with Claw Fury because it doesn't do much damage in the short time I'd have to use it before needing to block something.

If you need more tankiness, Pack Leader would be the better option since it gets Major Protection and 15% Block Mitigation. I prefer Berserker though after trying both, though, I do sometimes swap to Pack Leader for stuff I need a bit more survivability for.

"What's your build?"

Stamina critical DPS build with mixing warden and sorc and night blade.

Equipment : null and Tarnished Nightmare and Zaan.

AvalonRanger · June 29

I felt damage is enough. But despite of such a beast appearance, werewolf is quite squashy.

AvalonRanger · June 29

Erickson9610 wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

New werewolf is fluffy and so cute appearance...but still useless?

My puppy got lv10 and also earn several skill point already. But...
Wood Elf mankind style is far more powerful than werewolf form.
I tested at overland boss with season difficulty. And it's confirmed.

...Is it just role playing toy?

Is the new werewolf cute, though? It seems pretty terrifying to me. Definitely don't want to make one of those werewolves angry, you know?

Carrying 2 werewolves through the dungeon as tank, they looks like my dogs actually.
Some times they pick up meat from body on the ground with swinging fluffy tail.

White and Black fluffy tail.

And, when my taunt expire, my dogs were instant dead.... Definitely they are house pet.

Arunei · June 29

AvalonRanger wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

What's your build?

I have two WWs, one on my main account and one on my alt. My main account is coming up on 1.9k CP, my alt is super behind at CP289. While I do have a bit of trouble soloing WBs on my alt, my main can handle all I've thrown at her aside for the stupid Guar at Caravan Crest. I hate that Boss, in regards to Alliance Zone WBs it's so oddly overtuned.

Anyway, I don't have a super optimized build on either account. Both my accounts run Deadly Strike and Tide-Born Wildstalker, as Deadly boosts Brutal Carnage and Claw Fury, while Tide-Born boosts Claw Fury and Rip and Tear. My main account is a Khajiit with Slimecraw Head for Crit Chance and Oakensoul as a Mythic. Her four active Warfare CP are Master-At-Arms, Wrathful Strikes, Deadly Aim (boosts Rip and Tear as an execute), and Biting Aura. My alt has...none of those CP, and is using Hunding's Shoulder for the Crit Chance. She also has no Mythcs since I don't have Greymoor on that account.

Both my WWs use Berserker, Brutal Pounce, Hircine's Rage, Ferocious Roar, Claw Fury, and Rip and Tear. I usually open with Ferocious Roar twice to boost Claw Fury, Hircine's Rage, then Pounce, Carnage three times for max timer, Claw Fury, then Rip and Tear for Sunder. Ferocious Roar twice again to boost Claw Fury fully, Claw Fury, repeat Ferocious Roar x2 and Claw Fury while reapplying Hircine's Rage and Sunder again as need until the enemy is in Execute range. Then I spam Ferocious Roar and Rip and Tear. I also use Hircine's Rage as I need to in order to restore Stam.

For bosses, I just block and spam Ferocious Roar, Rip and Tear, and Hircine's Rage. I don't bother with Claw Fury because it doesn't do much damage in the short time I'd have to use it before needing to block something.

If you need more tankiness, Pack Leader would be the better option since it gets Major Protection and 15% Block Mitigation. I prefer Berserker though after trying both, though, I do sometimes swap to Pack Leader for stuff I need a bit more survivability for.

"What's your build?"

Stamina critical DPS build with mixing warden and sorc and night blade.

Equipment : null and Tarnished Nightmare and Zaan.

What about other hings like CP, what Morphs you're using, what Subclassed stuff you've picked? Maybe a CMX screen (from Combat Metrics) of transformed vs non-transformed performance?

Also do you run a 2bar build normally? WW is really strong for 1bar but likely will not outperform 2bar in a lot of cases.

AvalonRanger · June 30

Arunei wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

What's your build?

I have two WWs, one on my main account and one on my alt. My main account is coming up on 1.9k CP, my alt is super behind at CP289. While I do have a bit of trouble soloing WBs on my alt, my main can handle all I've thrown at her aside for the stupid Guar at Caravan Crest. I hate that Boss, in regards to Alliance Zone WBs it's so oddly overtuned.

Anyway, I don't have a super optimized build on either account. Both my accounts run Deadly Strike and Tide-Born Wildstalker, as Deadly boosts Brutal Carnage and Claw Fury, while Tide-Born boosts Claw Fury and Rip and Tear. My main account is a Khajiit with Slimecraw Head for Crit Chance and Oakensoul as a Mythic. Her four active Warfare CP are Master-At-Arms, Wrathful Strikes, Deadly Aim (boosts Rip and Tear as an execute), and Biting Aura. My alt has...none of those CP, and is using Hunding's Shoulder for the Crit Chance. She also has no Mythcs since I don't have Greymoor on that account.

Both my WWs use Berserker, Brutal Pounce, Hircine's Rage, Ferocious Roar, Claw Fury, and Rip and Tear. I usually open with Ferocious Roar twice to boost Claw Fury, Hircine's Rage, then Pounce, Carnage three times for max timer, Claw Fury, then Rip and Tear for Sunder. Ferocious Roar twice again to boost Claw Fury fully, Claw Fury, repeat Ferocious Roar x2 and Claw Fury while reapplying Hircine's Rage and Sunder again as need until the enemy is in Execute range. Then I spam Ferocious Roar and Rip and Tear. I also use Hircine's Rage as I need to in order to restore Stam.

For bosses, I just block and spam Ferocious Roar, Rip and Tear, and Hircine's Rage. I don't bother with Claw Fury because it doesn't do much damage in the short time I'd have to use it before needing to block something.

If you need more tankiness, Pack Leader would be the better option since it gets Major Protection and 15% Block Mitigation. I prefer Berserker though after trying both, though, I do sometimes swap to Pack Leader for stuff I need a bit more survivability for.

"What's your build?"

Stamina critical DPS build with mixing warden and sorc and night blade.

Equipment : null and Tarnished Nightmare and Zaan.

What about other hings like CP, what Morphs you're using, what Subclassed stuff you've picked? Maybe a CMX screen (from Combat Metrics) of transformed vs non-transformed performance?

Also do you run a 2bar build normally? WW is really strong for 1bar but likely will not outperform 2bar in a lot of cases.

Equipment : null and Tarnished Nightmare and Zaan.

Orbital78 · June 30

Pure sorc WW with deadly and null arca was channel parsing 125k prior to mythic nerfs. I still prefer arcanist due to its range of channel and it used velothi. No nerf since U49 and did about the same DPS. Werewolves are in a much better state than prior to U49 for sure. At least DPS side, I haven't tried a tanky one.