Temper Expertise

SourceError

Base

• Honing Stone - 20%
• Dwarven Oil - 15%
• Grain Solvent - 10%
• Tempering Alloy - 5%

Temper Expertise I (Level 10) = 50% increase in chance

• Honing Stone - 30%
• Dwarven Oil - 23% (Tooltip rounds up, actual chance might not)
• Grain Solvent - 15%
• Tempering Alloy - 8% (Tooltip rounds up, actual chance might not)

Temper Expertise II (Level 25) = 100% increase

• Honing Stone - 40%
• Dwarven Oil - 30%
• Grain Solvent - 20%
• Tempering Alloy - 10%

Temper Expertise III (Level 40) = 150% increase

• Honing Stone - 50%
• Dwarven Oil - 38%
• Grain Solvent - 25%
• Tempering Alloy - 13%

clocksstoppe

rank 3 tempers: honing 50% dwarven 38% grain 25% alloy 13%

Phoebvs

can be either
1) 50% - 75% - 100%
or
2) 50% - 100% - 150%

either way, you initially need 20 (5%) tempers for legendary item, so even with 150% you will need something like 7-8 of them. and I strongly doubt they are easy to obtain.

SourceError

I appreciate your speculation, but I'm looking for a definitive answer. I'm sure someone has probably gotten to level 25 blacksmithing and could verify at least level 2.

Vikova

I know three is over 100%, but not sure about the exact number. I can ask around.

BjarniiV

how can i activate my account so i can play

Sakiri

I put a point in the clothing one and it wanted 4 for 100% success.

And then I failed the improvement.

WTF.

killedbyping

Have you tryed to search for kills database or skill calculator ?
There are alot of resources which show all lvls of skills and all of their morths.
On lvl 3 you have +50% chance to upgrade.
So if you need 8 honing stones to make green item w/o that skill, you need only 4 stones with lvl 3 of skill.

Destabilizator

killedbyping wrote: »

Have you tryed to search for kills database or skill calculator ?
There are alot of resources which show all lvls of skills and all of their morths.
On lvl 3 you have +50% chance to upgrade.
So if you need 8 honing stones to make green item w/o that skill, you need only 4 stones with lvl 3 of skill.

And that's where you are wrong, with only lvl 1 of the skill you need 3 honing stones for 90%, that comes from ingame. (50% bonus on lvl 1 = 20% 1x Honing -> 30% 1x Honing, it's even in OP).

ZoM_Head

eq2imora_ESO wrote: »

I put a point in the clothing one and it wanted 4 for 100% success.

And then I failed the improvement.

WTF.

Seriously? you should report that then right? or is it part of the game's experience? -.-

Chalybos

eq2imora_ESO wrote: »

I put a point in the clothing one and it wanted 4 for 100% success.

And then I failed the improvement.

WTF.

I had the same thing happen. And that's exactly what I said to my screen. And then I laughed my ass off.
I guess there's still a chance you'll break your gear when slamming it on a forge. Of course I would have been kind of ticked if it had been more than just some honing stones and a crafted piece of gear, but still, it was amusing.

rtx

It's just a bug.
Very annoying bug indeed.
If something like that happened to me, I would demand my upgraded weapon/armour back.

ThunderBadger

The issue with the 100% success chance failure seems to be an interface lag issue. When you are increasing the number of tempers to use it will reset itself back to 1. Regardless of what number you see there the number of tempers actually used is only 1 if the server is suffering a heavy load. I haven't been able to upgrade any items since launch as there are simply too many people bogging down the server. Once I can log in I will check the percentage received from temper expertise tier 2 for you.

SourceError

I would appreciate it ThunderBadger. Thank you.

maxilaub17_ESO

SourceError wrote: »

Temper Expertise I = 50% increase in chance

• (Honing Stone from 20% to 30%, Dwarven Oil from 15% to 23%)

Temper Expertise II = ???
Temper Expertise III = ??? (more than double)

What are the increases of the second and third levels?

I have 2 points in Temper Expertise (level 25 blacksmith), what I can tell you for sure is I get 40% for per 1 honing stone, amd 30% per one Dawarven Oil. I did not check higher than that.

SourceError

Thanks, I'll update the original post to reflect that. My assumption is that Temper Expertise III is 150%, but I'd like someone to verify that.

Mansome

what about epic and legendary?

killedbyping

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

eq2imora_ESO wrote: »

I put a point in the clothing one and it wanted 4 for 100% success.

And then I failed the improvement.

WTF.

Seriously? you should report that then right? or is it part of the game's experience? -.-

Well, nope. It is where YOU wrong.
This tooltip just incorrect. And i believe that there is actualy no 100% chance for creating items other than green.
May be i spelled it incorrect (im bad with %). On lvl 3 you need only half of mats needed for 100% chance.

SourceError

Updated original post with more details.

Tuinslang

Report any in-game bug with the "/bug" tag in-game which works in chat.
It will help you to improve the game we all love and play.

SourceError

Tuinslang wrote: »

Report any in-game bug with the "/bug" tag in-game which works in chat.

/bug stay on topic

Tuinslang

SourceError wrote: »

Tuinslang wrote: »

Report any in-game bug with the "/bug" tag in-game which works in chat.

/bug stay on topic

Think wisely before saying such thing. I was helping the people that had trouble, that was related to the topic's subject. Just saying.

SourceError

Tuinslang wrote: »

Think wisely

And yet, a bug related to the subject of the question in the original post is still not constructive towards the answer. It belongs in its own thread and responding to off-topic comments does not mean your comment is on-topic.

/discussion
Send me a message if you're looking to debate this.
I have nothing more to say about it here.

Jnutter819

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

eq2imora_ESO wrote: »

I put a point in the clothing one and it wanted 4 for 100% success.

And then I failed the improvement.

WTF.

Seriously? you should report that then right? or is it part of the game's experience? -.-

I would guess that it's a bug. If it were part of the "experience" it should only go up to 99% or something. As far as what causes it, a likely suspect in my view is outdated info. @Elmojito1000eb17_ESO Did that happen right after you invested the point, or was there at least one loading screen/relog between them?

SourceError

clocksstoppe wrote: »

rank 3 tempers: honing 50% dwarven 38% grain 25% alloy 13%

Original post updated.

Gillysan

I was searching high and low for this, dickering around with search terms. Gave the post and awesome and a favorites.

I imagine these percentages apply to Clothing and Woodworking?

Jnutter819

They do indeed.

Botak

What level needed to unlock rank 3 expertise?

SourceError

Botak wrote: »

What level needed to unlock rank 3 expertise?

It is 25 for rank 2 and 40 for rank 3

SadisticSavior

Phoebvs wrote: »

can be either
1) 50% - 75% - 100%
or
2) 50% - 100% - 150%

either way, you initially need 20 (5%) tempers for legendary item, so even with 150% you will need something like 7-8 of them. and I strongly doubt they are easy to obtain.

Legendary tempers can't be THAT hard to obtain...I've gotten one just from a hireling already, and I was only level 18 at the time.

They are probably hard enough to get that they are still valuable though. I don't plan on even creating Legendary gear with anything less than 100% success chance. And I expect a lot of people will be like that.

SadisticSavior

At what Blacksmith levels do all the Temper Expertise ranks become available? I can't find that online anywhere.