When people get proven they're correct....

Udrath

@Iriidius

“Counters in this game are so weak they might as well not exist and the side with higher stats and numbers always wins.”

Pretty much what I was trying to explain, thanks.

Pixiepumpkin

TaSheen wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

this game is a business and has obviously been run as a business, not a labor of love. That being said ive always though that zos's combat and dungeon/trial design has always been a major disconnect for the majority of its skyrim casual player base. Not just this game either. All the mmos are stuck in the same rut.

zos would just make it easier because thats the road of lowest effort but mmos are stagnant because they have not been able to successfully improve the gameplay to a point where its actually favorable to be in the company of other people. Thus the modern trend of soloing in mmos, defeating the purpose of its own existence. People are tired of people. These games need to do alot more to make that go the other way.

their new mmo will suffer the same fate if they do the same things.

Agreed. No Man's Sky is a labor of love. I don't get the same vibes here. I don't hear any passion coming through.

I think most people like MMORPG's because the playerbase brings life to a game. But not that they necessarily want to enage with other players. At least that is how I feel. I don't mind engaing on occasion, but I don't like being held to a schedule like WOW required in vanilla raiding.

Spot on @Pixiepumpkin - the ONLY reason I have played MMOs (this is my 3rd one) is because the world is alive in a way that single player games (even Skyrim with a continual player-added content churn) do not and never have.

However, that's not a reason to stay forever.... especially when this latest release has literally nothing for me to be interested in.

100% Players add to the world in ways that NPC's right now can not. Maybe AI someday will make it feel more alive, but even then knowing that you are interacting with a machine and not a human removes a sense of togetherness.

I can't speak for others. But when I play a single player game for 12 hours straight, especially if its a nice sunny day. I always feel like a loser.
When I play an MMO with other players, who are all doing the same thing as me, I feel comfort that not all of them have sunny days, or heck I might not be having one and hanging out together, even if its just in passing, justifies my playing, keeping me from feeling like a loser.

As far as playing the game itself...well...I am extremely critical about this game, mostly because of the price tag. When I spend a lot, I expect performance to go with it. But I have never stopped playing or took a break because of content, I took breaks because I would spend 300 on crowns and then get moderated hours later (this has happened multiple times). I always feel like a sucker then and definitely not valued as a customer. So wife and I find something else to do for 6-9 months.

But right now, I am having a hard time logging in. The new content is miniscule, nothing is memorable (except the antiquities crab music, I love this thing) amd sublassing makes my 19 alts feel pointless, because they can all mostly be the exact same thing and that does nothing for me.

LPapirius

JustLovely wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/679081/im-disappointed-with-the-game-overall-and-the-direction-it-is-being-taken#latest

I logged onto the forum for the first time in a long time just to reply to the linked to thread above.

I couldn't agree more with their post. And what happened in that thread proves everything the OP had to say to be 100% accurate.

I'm not quitting. This isn't a quitting thread. I'm just not paying anymore. The nearly $5,000 ZOS has gotten out of me already is too much considering the level of respect ZOS shows it's customer base. ....as proven by what happened in the thread linked to above.

How do the rest of you feel about the direction of the game?

The OP linked to above started playing at the peak of ESO's excellence. Problem is it's been a horribly steep downhill trend since U35 and now with U46 it feels like the game has fallen off a cliff in terms of support in regards to both the game and the customers. It's really sad considering how much potential ESO still has if ZOS would just take advantage of it.

This is feedback and should be allowed. The smartest most successful people and companies are the ones that learn from their mistakes and make adjustments accordingly. The ones that ignore polite criticisms tend to be the least popular and least successful.

And by the way, vengeance mode will be the end of PvP in ESO if ZOS forces that on us as the only option.

I think the majority of forum users have had this kind of experience, and it feels bad man. Looks really bad too. Says a lot about the company.